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(@zoron)
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Hi Brandy,

I am feeling as if I am caught in a giant swirling whirlpool. American events seem to be following a pre-set pattern, as far as Trump and his fascist network are concerned. But the reaction to the snatching of the children has taken them aback. This was part of a plan that was meant to operate in stages, using the Presidents emergency powers. It would then be used to establish the special Camp system, (Now being done) and gradually widening the scope of who can be detained. Worse things to follow. The huge protests over the children have shaken Trump. he has reacted with rage and anger. He feels threatened by it. He will not stop.  He will do worse things. This is a very critical time for the Fascists that have hijacked the American Government.  So far, they have not had an effective opposition, that has stopped them. This could be it. All of this I am getting from scanning. It makes me feel ill. The children themselves and their fate, are also arising from the scanning. I have to say this:

Some of those children, (a minority) will never be recovered. They are gone. Forever. In various ways, they have passed through the system, and have vanished, and will not be traced. Some of the teens have escaped, some have fallen into the hands of traffickers, and have been "Passed on", and some are now so deep in the system, their fate will not be established. What I am seeing is not for the squeamish. Some will survive, and eventually reappear, but some years later. not many. The main thing is that the refugee detainees are being used to accomplish a much deeper purpose. They are being used to weaken the rule of law, and the Courts, and to introduce Presidential rule by decree, effectively. What I also see is that Trump realizes that His base is still very much behind him. That's about 40% 0f the American population. so he feels secure. That base strongly approves what is being done to the Refugees. At the moment, they have not yet mobilized, but I am seeing ugly scenes when they do. Blue against Red. Public disorder. That is a way down the track, but it will happen. I think next year is the year of serious violence, as the Trump base becomes enraged by the ejection of their President from office. Also in the run-up events to that. I also have to say, that the American police are largely on Trumps side, and have shown that they will use whatever violence they need to, to control "The situation". Civil disturbances are inevitable, next year. 

All of the above is an outline. We are now roughly one year away from the Fall of Trump. He will probably be replaced, at least for a while, by Pence. Paul Ryan will be heavily involved. I am doing a broad brush outline here, of what is happening, and what is to come. be surprised by what happens in the mid-term elections, not only in voting, but in protest, and a huge right-wing backlash.....



   
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(@anita)
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Zoron,

This does seem like what is going on.

One question. Do you mean there will be a huge backlash against the right wing or do you mean the opposite?

These are times I never expected to experience. I wonder who else he will take and put into cages.

 

Anita



   
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(@brandy)
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thank you Zoron. : (



   
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(@fran)
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Paul Ryan is supposed to be retiring. He should be gone by January. Is he gonna take the retirement back? He’s murky to me. 



   
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(@enkasongwriter)
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Zoron, I have the same thoughts where Trumpists will go on a batshit-crazy full-on assault on Dems and their supporters. I think there is a chance that we get a modGOP to serve out the rest of Trump's term. In 2020, I think that a moderate Democrat will win and be replaced with a progressive in 2024.

Today, I voted in the primaries for Cortez.



   
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(@carmen)
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@Zoron

Your scanning sent chills down my spine because it's similar to the dreams I have had of this nation's future. Yikes.

Far as the children, I can't even think about them without crying. It breaks my heart so bad. :-(

Also, if the Trumpsters decide to get violent next year, I just want them to know that I am not scared of them at all. 

 



   
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(@runestoneone)
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I follow this national intelligence special ops guy on twitter. Seems to be confirming Zoron's perspective about a number of things. The US creating a mess in South America that will land on our borders in 2 years being one of them.

Red on Blue violence is another. That report came from within Law enforcement.

https://twitter.com/GuardianRover

I personally have a hard time sorting my own fear images from actual precognition.  But when I first heard of the plans to house over 100k in tent cities, my first image was of resistance leaders being dragged away.

R1



   
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Posted by: BlueBelle

My mother's death and funeral played out all week against the darkness of the US government tearing babies and children away from their parents and locking them in Trump baby camps, child internment camps.  It has been truly horrific and overwhelming.  T

I have a deep knowing, a compelling sense that we will prevail in the end.  We need to remind ourselves that we are the heart warriors.  We need to stay strong and not give up hope.  We have all sensed the darkness at the door and the door has opened.  We can call on our higher powers and the power of love now.  All is not lost.

Love and blessings and strength to all who follow our path.

Bluebell, my sincere condolences on your loss.  May you always feel your mother's spirit surrounding you with love.

 

 

 



   
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(@natalie)
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Thank you Zoron for scanning this situation. I always hoped 40% was too high a number but maybe you're right and that's how many people in this country will stick by the regime until the end. Something Maria said in another thread has resonated with me and bears out in all the articles and books I've read (not to mention conversations I've had with people), and it is that in America the cult of money reigns supreme and the republican party and donald trump are representatives of that cult. I spent last weekend in New Jersey attending my little brother's high school graduation and had conversations with American relatives (trump voters) about why I love Canada so much. The point kept being emphasized to me that people earn more money in the United States and that Canada is a socialist country and therefore not as good. I'm not going to go into whether or not Canada is actually socialist, it's a non starter, but what struck me was that a country where there's less poverty and more equality is seen as inferior because people don't make as much money. Never mind the fact that this person has never been to Canada and I happen to have grown up there and am aware of how much material wealth people up there have (astonishingly plenty), but that earning money for oneself is seen as a more important virtue than living in a society that tries to look after everyone (however imperfectly). So money over people seems to be the reigning ideology of the United States and it makes me deeply uneasy because it's caused a culture of greed, narcissism and stark inequality to be created. The poor are blamed for being poor here and that's horrendous. 

On another note I think that we have been fighting a civil war within our hearts for some time now and what you are predicting is that it may erupt into actual conflict. We are fighting a war over values and I have no idea how it will turn out. Can the United States survive as u united whole at the end of all this? And why exactly are trump voters so callous, cruel, indifferent to the plight of others and unwilling to listen to facts? I really want to know.



   
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Just wanted to share that San Diego is rapidly becoming ground zero for protests against the wall, the Muslim ban, and family detention/separation.  There is going to be a lot of activity here on Monday. You don't have to be local to help out. Here is a form to register your email if you are interested.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdGGQbOzjN6rBqtLgnYh53kg0cjhfZC4Fy7TblqO_syOUrhXA/viewform?fbzx=-5170379131810352000

Siempre unidos, no divididos.



   
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