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@deetoo

Thank you for posting these links! His work is vital for understanding how certain groups stick by Trump no matter what. 

 



   
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Posted by: @lawrence

O.k. Thanks. I read for 5 of the best known psychics and film/tv stars on the planet. I trust my intuition. T is melting from dementia. He will not even be the GOP candidate.  

From your mouth to God's ears. Thanks for the sense of hope on this Wedsnesday morning!



   
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Posted by: @lovendures

I don't believe he will be the candidate either and haven't for awhile..  Which means the dems need to be careful about  only talking about him.  Dangerous.  They can't make it all about Trump the person.

Agreed.

The waters could turn any minute, or for any reason, but I continue to see Nikki Haley's face. Somewhere in this thread I posted about a vision I had of a particular GOP man standing with her. When I started typing that post, I believed the man I'd seen was a Republican congressman and even stopped to look through photos of all possible GOP lawmakers to make some suggestions. I couldn't be certain about any of them.

By the end of the post, it hit me that maybe the man was actually some type of DC outsider, but somehow closely affiliated with the party and DC. 

Then, Mark Sanford (who just happens to be the South Carolina governor that Haley succeeded) starts making the rounds on cable news again. He says he may or may not be considering throwing his hat in the ring to primary the incumbent, and even directly warns Trump that "a storm is coming."

Post-Trump, Sanford's indiscretions seem paltry. 

At the same time, and perhaps not coincidentally, Scaramucci goes on TV and publicly announces his withdrawal of support from Trump. A short time later, a small story breaks, revealing that just before he made that announcement, Scaramucci was seen meeting with Nikki Haley. 

In other news, the docuseries The Family is now streaming on Netflix, right on the heels of The Great Hack. Sanford makes a showing in this one, and if you haven't seen it, stop wasting your time.

 



   
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@vestralux, do you know whether The Family is rooted in the conservative Christian, political idealogy of Dominionism?  

 



   
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The Dow Jones Industrial Average was down 800 today, and the bond market is flashing an upcoming recession signal, which astrologers say will initiate on 12/20/19.  This could be you-know-who's kryptonite.  All along, I've thought the economy would have to tank to dry up the supply of kool aid and get the maga crowd to sober up. The stable genius is wildly tweeting that we're still winning and the stock market isn't tanking because of his tradewar with China. It is, of course, among other things. He says it's all Jerome Powell's fault for not providing faster and bigger interest rate cuts.  Powell is the p-grabber's hand-picked appointee as chairman of the federal reserve.  Looks like we can totally forget about the buck ever stopping with our unfit, unprepared head of state. If he digs hard enough, I'm sure he'll find a way to blame Obama or Hillary.  



   
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Posted by: @deetoo

@vestralux, do you know whether The Family is rooted in the conservative Christian, political idealogy of Dominionism?  

 

I've read there are ties, but on the whole, I honestly couldn't say, @deetoo. And I wouldn't want to guess. With so secretive an organization—even one so clearly entrenched throughout the world—it's hard to know what's factual and what is conspiratorial conjecture. (I'm ordering Jeff Sharlet's books, and when I can, I plan to do deeper investigation into The Fellowship.)

Generally speaking, I have a personal philosophy that I apply to these sorts of things. And it's backed up by social science: In a large enough group, there are often greater differences (of opinion, belief, expression, etc.) within the group than between that group and outside groups. So, for example, when we decide that all police are a certain way, or that the CIA/FBI is a wholly corrupt monolith, etc., we're ignoring a basic reality of human nature. There are always corrupt people, and to the extent that they become leaders (more frequently than we'd like), an organization as a whole suffers. The fish rots from the head down, as they say. But that doesn't mean there aren't ordinary, well-meaning folks inside.

My point here is that while there are a great many dominionist—and more importantly, theonomist—proponents among evangelical Christian leadership, it's hard to say whether The Fellowship Foundation is entirely or even predominantly rooted there. According to Sharlet, the group refuses to claim itself as Christian, or any other organized religion. It's clear there are a lot of DC Democrats, even self-identified "liberal" Dems, who are either members or friends. Maybe they're all in it for power and access; maybe they're just supremely naive; maybe there's some good that happens for some, even if the structure itself is grossly disturbed (kind of like AA, some would argue).  

And maybe it's like the Freemasons: until you're Third Degree, you don't know jack. 

I don't know this for a fact, but I have to believe that even after the Revolutionary War and our independence from British monarchy (God-ordained rule), there remained a powerful (even virulent) strain of theocracy, which for the most part, became suppressed in the American unconscious. Maybe that's what evangelicalism (and its baby, the "prosperity gospel") are all about. 



   
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Posted by: @vestralux
 

In other news, the docuseries The Family is now streaming on Netflix, right on the heels of The Great Hack. Sanford makes a showing in this one, and if you haven't seen it, stop wasting your time.

 

I started watching yesterday and I had to stop.  Had flu, nausea like symptoms and slept from 5pm to 8:45 am the next morning.  The energies from it were unreal.  It's really interesting and thanks to the guy who wrote the books.  We're now beginning to understand who the people in the shadows are . 

 



   
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Posted by: @celticwitch
I started watching yesterday and I had to stop.  Had flu, nausea like symptoms and slept from 5pm to 8:45 am the next morning.  The energies from it were unreal.  It's really interesting and thanks to the guy who wrote the books.  We're now beginning to understand who the people in the shadows are . 

Wow, @celticwitch, sounds like you're a seriously strong empath. I hope you're feeling better! And that you have some reliable ways of guarding yourself against involuntary energy absorption. If you're able to read about the subject without the side effects, I hope you will. I feel the information is vitally important for all democracy-loving people, wherever we are in the world.

Sidebar: my daughter is a painfully strong empath (as well as a physical medium, which is pretty excruciating on its own) and thus far, she's largely unable to tolerate taking in the news. She also can't watch documentaries or films that aren't strictly lighthearted in nature. It saddens me to see her have to suppress so much, but she's inherently strong—a powerhouse, in fact. (I have a feeling you are too.) In her case, I'm faithful she won't always need quite the same guardrails she does now, but even if she does, it's worth it for the preservation of her gifts. 



   
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Thanks @vestralux 

It took me completely unawares and it was insidious.  I usually get a gut feeling to avoid straight away,  but this didn't take effect until halfway through the 2nd episode.  There's definitely dark forces behind this group. I believe that these people are praying and some actually believe they're praying to 'Jesus' but they're manifesting energies which are not good for the world, as the more time they're in this group the more it changes their beliefs and the more they increase the energy through praying.  It's classic energy manipulation.   Today I've heard other people talking about it and they laughed how 2 members of the family went to Libya and spoke to a statesman there, who's angry attitude changed when they all started praying.  Call me crazy but I can believe this.  The words and intentions are not for the good or 'brotherly love', but an undercurrent of dark magic hiding behind it.  

I am also a psychic medium.  It can make life hard at times. I can see pain in peoples eyes, crowded places exhaust me, i have visions which can be terrifying, but I've come to accept who I am and what I have. It can be great connecting someone with a spirit and my Intuition has saved me from some dodgy decisions.  My son also has this gift and I'm teaching him on how to harness it. Today for example he said everything 'feels weird' and has a gut feeling that something bad will happen, but can't see what it is.  Im trying to help him to live with this and cope with it.  

I feel there is so many of us out there like your daughter, we need to protect them and guide them. Let them believe that their gifts are for the good of mankind. Unlike members of the family who are using their gifts for their own needs and power. 

 



   
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For anyone who might find this entertaining, anthony scaramucci on CNN just said “look, i predict donald trump won’t even be on the ticket” 

maybe he’s been reading the forum?? 

Interesting how his own party is flipping. Many classic GOP dropping like flies against 45... 

this is the kind of news i like to hear!



   
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