just to add to notes on the mueller hearing for those who might've missed it.
There were actually a few super important pieces of information that he revealed to us that were previously not confirmed...
I know one user previously mentioned how the mueller probe lead to a whole set of other investigations (including SDNY, with a potential for sealed indictments)- but what I hadn't *personally* known about were FBI counterintelligence investigations from OTHER countries, and also that there were even FBI counterintelligence investigations to begin with. investigations, which, were started directly from findings of the mueller report.
There is an attorney/professor/author called Seth Abramson who's twitter I regularly follow, who live tweeted the hearing. Hes written over 15 books, but most recently a book called "proof of collusion: how trump betrayed america" and has been very dead on in understanding what is happening with this, and sometimes calls how events will play out before they have happened. I believe he calls himself a journalistic historian or something (i am paraphrasing here) which basically means he reviews news/press from history and pieces together a lot of information through a sociopolitical framework to inform us about the past and the present. Anyway- I highly recommend following his twitter account if you're on there, he's great, and very smart.
Part of what he mentioned that I found really notable that not many news outlets are reporting on was that Mueller indirectly confirmed that there are, as we speak, ongoing FBI counterintelligence investigations looking into election interference by Russia, but also by Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Israel-- and those countries ties to Trump and his campaign/foundation.
This is info was previously suspected but unconfirmed, and also not widely reported on in mainstream media. Beyond this, Mueller confirmed that events involving the trump campaign and Israel were "outside his ambit"--- indirectly confirming that potential links to trump campaign dealings with Israel (regarding election interference) are currently being investigated by the FBI Counterintelligence.
Seth says this-- "A very good rule of thumb in trying to understand what's happening: obstruction can and may lead to impeachment; but *only* revelation of the counterintelligence evidence now being held by the FBI could lead (and indeed should lead) to Trump's conviction and removal from office"
Another great nugget of info: Mueller said he "can't speak" to whether Trump was or currently is compromised by possible BLACKMAIL. seth states- "why? because its in the counterintelligence report. either we begin demanding that information or we continue to guess whether the president of the US is compromised."
Mueller told congressman Hurd (R) that going into 2020, "many more countries" are involved.
Seth says, "Mueller is correct, and those three countries are *Saudi Arabia, Israel =, and the UAE*"
when asked about Trump and other countries having potential blackmail on him, Mueller stated effectively- "i cannot comment on other ongoing investigations"-- basically tells us that yes, blackmail on trump is suspected, it is info mueller found that was passed off to the secondary counterintelligence investigation, and its now being looked at for proof.
so while its not known forsure as we havent read the files on these investigations, its almost inevitable that this wouldnt produce results. mainly because we know that there are forsure foreign entities that know about trump and his family's shady business dealings and his lies. their knowledge of any of this, even their knowledge of any lying on Trump's part- can and maybe already is being used against him. in short, the FBI is trying to prove that our current sitting president is compromised. thats big.
in summary...
Mueller a) confirmed there are ongoing FBI counterintelligence investigations going on to determine the level of 2016 election interference by not only russia, but by other countries like Israel, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia, and that those investigations are also determining their current capacity for ongoing or future election interference. i did not know this.
b) that theres a potential that these countries (russia, israel, UAE, saudi arabia) have blackmail on donald trump- not only the potential, but that is under the scope of what is currently being investigated by the FBI- and if there were, it would either be redacted in the report or referred to the other investigations, and we would not yet know about it.
My takeaway was that Schiff (sits on counterintelligence committee-could actually be the chair? im not sure) fully intends to demand at the very least congressional/ committee, or "gang of 8" access to these investigations and what they have discovered. Keep in mind that if there were to be a congressional briefing on this, it would likely be behind closed doors, we wouldn't know about it, and that something to this level would almost certainly be kept quiet until fully sorted out.
Think about it, if the FBI learned that our current sitting president was compromised by blackmail and thus, a national security threat- they would not be telling us outright. it would be very backdoor, high security clearance only and very carefully directed, with the potential for sealed indictments. any of these investigations actually would never go public if they did have a sealed indictment, and the likelihood that our country would publicly arrest or charge the president in broad daylight is highly unlikely. They could seal an indictment like is said, or use it as leverage for his resignation. honestly, a lot of people in the intelligence community would be freaking out and it would have to be very, very meticulous, primarily in that this has never happened before in the history of the united states. I feel like we (as citizens) keep waiting for this big moment when trump goes down, is arrested, etc... and what I think we all need to remember is that there is no chance it would be some big show with military escort, etc. the likelihood we'd even know about it or have any level of transparency is also very low. if there is behind the scenes stuff.. which it seems like there is (perhaps why mueller was so reluctant to elaborate on well, literally anything, and very careful with this words), we wouldn't know, at all. not until every last step and procedure was completed. the kind of corruption we are all witnessing.. well it would be bigger than anything our country has ever dealt with, and it basically already is. we know now definitively the president and his campaign knowingly welcomed foreign interference into the 2016 campaign and the lied about it- and that already, as is, way. way bigger than watergate.
sorry if i sound like a bit of a conspiracy loon, but I'm pretty bad at explaining this stuff. so please go listen to Seth.
considering trumps business dealings with these countries spans over decades..Many- and I mean many have already said that its nearly impossible they DON'T have blackmail on him. in the hearing, it was stated that another country's knowledge of trump lying or doing something like say... money laundering.. *cough cough* would be grounds for not only impeachment, but conviction in that a sitting president is compromised by a foreign (and even hostile) country.
another cool thing-- the steele dossier has already been proven to be 80% true. back upon its release in 2016, many did not believe any of it, but after release of the mueller report, we've found almost all of it to be accurate. what else is in the steele dossier? a whole lot of knowledge that Putin/ the kremlin have a whole lot of blackmail on Trump.
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how neat
You do not sound like a conspiracy loon. Thank you for any digging anything you can to affirm what we all know is true. It is not libel if it is true.
I am not surprised about UAE, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. Since the AG Barr has put in writing before he became the A.G. that he is dedicated to protecting the president from any kind of criminal accountability, he uses the ongoing investigation smoke screen to cover up information.
We now live in an upside-down world where truth is called lies and lies are called truth. We need to continue to call out the real lies that we know are being told.
Trump needs to go, but I want to ask everyone if they see Mitch McConnell getting re-elected and do they see the Senate going Blue in 2020? My feeling is we need that as much or more than we need the presidency to be blue.
Hi everyone! I've missed you. Been crazy busy since the winter (still am) but I had to pop in here a minute to share some things that came up for me the day-before-yesterday.
As I shared with Jeanne, whenever I get downloads like this, they're weirdly specific and detailed. I've learned to trust them on the whole, even if later, I realize that I misinterpreted one or two pieces of any particular vision. I believe in the clarifying power of collective intelligence, so maybe some of you will be able to hone in more clearly and share your thoughts.
Much love to all.
Trump — Now thru 2020
- Trump's energy shows up to me with what looks like the cascading impact of long-term amphetamine toxicity. His erratic nature and chaotic temperament are nothing new, but the family and those working closely with him in the White House are growing increasingly alarmed.
- I believe he's been hearing voices since sometime after he moved into the White House (some of which may be real, if not entirely corporeal). The voices are becoming more insistent and Trump seems to be losing the capacity to keep their presence a secret. (I get the sense he feels constantly followed or surrounded.) He will be repeatedly overheard arguing “with no one” in the Oval Office and the Executive Residence.
- I see Trump losing partial use of his left hand/arm for a period; the fingers are curled. It feels like the result of a stroke-type event brought on by an underlying cardiovascular condition (which may have been exacerbated by amphetamine overuse, if he indeed uses these substances). I see this happening in a period of months following an initial gastrointestinal illness, which I see developing in Sept/Oct 2019. (I hear someone whispering, “He literally just *?@$# his pants.”)
- This creates a resultant period of unusual quiet from Trump. The energy of the Executive Residence feels dormant. Mar-a-Lago appears tightly guarded. He may have to be put under general anesthesia for some kind of surgical procedure (bowels?). I see Pence stepping forward during this, then disappearing again behind a thick velvet curtain (…which come to think of it, pretty well describes Pence’s energy generally.)
- A media figure Trump already speaks to regularly has been working behind-the-scenes with a member of the president’s staff to prepare a damage control strategy in the event that Trump’s condition leaks to the press: disinfo, disinfo, disinfo. They will accuse Dems of outright inventing or greatly exaggerating his condition as a dirty political tactic, which of course is what they themselves did with Hillary Clinton. I don’t sense that the public will learn the full truth about the nature of Trump’s mental and physical health crises until well after he leaves office.
- While Trump is down, certain GOP lawmakers who see the writing on the wall appear to secretly strategize some kind of public separation from him. (Koch influence looks like a boa constrictor squeezing a clutch of Republicans; their faces are strained and red.) I hear the sound of the Party ripping forcefully and unevenly down the middle, like a torn garment. Or a torn flag.
The U.S./World
- A shocking piece of video will be leaked to the press which appears to implicate someone powerful. Certain conservative lawmakers will aggressively decry the footage as a “deep fake.” In the course of the coverage, some kind of documentation will be presented as evidence of deliberate wrongdoing on the part of a respected news organization. I see a journalist (maybe two?) being hauled to jail—a dark turn indeed.
- Unfortunately, I can’t discern whether or not the footage actually is fake—or whether it’s legitimate. Something feels very blurred about it. But the "evidence" presented to prove journalistic wrongdoing does NOT feel legit, and even there, I’m not certain that the conservatives actually know this. Honestly, the whole thing seems like a complicated mix of cyber op and social engineering, but that's strictly my analytical (not psychic) take. There’s just too much cloudiness and confusion around it.
- As the news of this controversy takes over, the public continues to lose trust. Political accusations of “fake news!” turn into mass paranoia of fake everything. I see this hitting the EU as hard as it hits the US. An Australian politician may also be in the news for a similar exposure.
I see this confusion growing right through the U.S. 2020 election like a terrible kudzu vine.
Last fall, I wrote here that I was seeing people dancing in the streets. I could feel the celebration, which made me believe Trump would go and a Democrat would be voted in. I still see Trump leaving office before the end of his term, though I no longer know whether that means before 2021 or after. I have no doubt that an incredible blue wave will run like a tsunami over the country and that the (actual) popular vote count will be swept by Democrats, Independents, and frustrated Republican women. But that doesn’t mean that a Democrat will actually take the presidency, or that the election will go uncontested if he or she does.
In fact, as 2020 draws closer, I see more and more aggressive cyberattacks and continuing active measures—and Russia isn’t the only hostile actor. Post-2020, I see furious militias and alt-right aggressors taking up arms in the streets. My sense is that this may not calm down again until closer to 2026 or 2028. We're in the time of our country’s first Pluto return, and we are going through a dark crucible indeed. But so is democracy generally, wherever it exists in the world.
Some things have to be unmade in order to become more whole.
By 2040, I see a very different world. One I hope to live to see with my eyes.
You ask Why Turtle blocked securing our elections even after Mueller made it clear that foreign hackers were planning to continue hacking the elections
Because Turtle is a co-conspirator with T. When I read your question, my mind flashed on Saudi Arabia and all the other oligarch-run countries that want to control the wealth of this country.
WELCOME BACK! You have been missed. So glad to pour over these predictions and perhaps add them to our timeline predictions if I can make the dates fit with ours.
Thanks Jeanne! So glad to be here.
Wednesday an excellent but frightening documentary was released on Netflix: The Great Hack. It tells the Cambridge Analytica slash Facebook/Google/Amazon data tyranny story through the lens of a one-time Obama campaign worker turned Cambridge Analytica expert turned whistleblower.
If you want to better understand not only how our elections were stolen, but how rightwing autocrats are rising to power all over the world, it's a must watch.
the Russians are building some big thing in Kentucky. He's in bed with the Russians. They ALL ARE.