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 lynn
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@allyn  Ditto. I will work for and vote for any democratic nominee. Any one of them. Even the most flawed are generally decent and moral people, and they're all sane. I just hope whoever gets the nomination doesn't blow it. 

 



   
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@deetoo, I hear you loud and clear. We cannot buy into the false narrative that one of our candidates can’t win. Any one of them can win hands down against trump. I hear that in in the community where I live and I just laugh. I continually encourage people to check the facts. I’m tired of being afraid. I’m all in for whoever our candidate is. We also need to be all in for those running down ballot. We will need a majority in the house, senate, governors to get anything done.

I remember well what happened 12 yrs ago! A small group of people brought our financial system to its knees and they got golden parachutes! So they can save their “Socialist” speech. 

 

 



   
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@lynnventura

I agree that Trump thinks Bernie is most beatable, and that his campaign against Trump would polarize the US the most. Trump, however, has a brain that is solely reactive and instinctive, ie you speak.badly of him and he retaliates without ever thinking even minutes ahead of the current situation. Bernie blasted Trump a lot recently and for Trump to defend him after that is 100% out of character. The only way Trump would do something strategic(like boost Bernie for an easier path to victory) is if he was told to by his puppet master. There was a time where I really thought he was just a useful idiot being manipulated by Russia, but this move fully convinced me beyond any doubt that he is taking direct orders from the Kremlin

 



   
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1231264452097593345

It's getting worse quite quickly



   
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Any one of the Dems running now can win.

Any one of the Dems running now can lose.

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!



   
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 lynn
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@mas1581  I completely agree.  I would add that the "Bernie is the most beatable" may just be psych ops that Russia has injected into our system through social media propaganda, which, as you've pointed out, trump is in on. Yesterday I was talking to my partner and we asked ourselves, are we really doomed if Bernie gets the nomination? Or is this Russian propaganda?  

David Plouffe, who worked on Obama's 2008 campaign and co-hosts Pod Save America, tweeted yesterday that there is no evidence that Bernie can't win the general election. I like to think of myself as pretty discerning, and I think many other people are as well, but psych ops are powerful because they can work on anyone. So, going forward, I am going to questions my every conclusion about this election even more that I would normally. Question the conventional wisdom. Can Bernie win the general?  Sure, why not? Would be be a good president? As Jeanne has pointed out, he's squeaky clean. He's moral. He's decent. Is he perfect? No one is, certainly not the degenerate sitting in the white house.

 



   
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@deetoo

Posted by: @deetoo

DO NOT WORRY.  DO NOT PANIC.  That will only cause confusion and weaken us.  Yes, be proactive and do what feels right to you (e.g. speak the truth, pray, send light energy, send donations, work for whichever candidate you support etc.), but let this thing play out. 

Thank you for this! We're in an emotionally turbulent mercury retrograde, so the fear that is churning, being stirred up by the media, the Russians, the failed impeachment is extra powerful right now. Don't listen to the lies that fear is spinning in your mind. We are here because we're interested in predicting the future, and most of those predictions show things turning around, and as Jeanne's prophecy states, "our democracy will take a beating but will survive." It is hard to not get pulled into the pain and fear while we're in the peak of this "beating" but have hope that it will not last. Change is coming. And "be the change you want to see"--like deetoo said, send out energy, thought, action, money, whatever you can do toward the outcome you want. While there is no guarantee that we'll get the exact candidate we want, we can and will save our democracy. Please take care of yourselves to stay healthy (mentally & physically) and take a break from the fear-mongering media if needed. 

 



   
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@mas1581 I wish I could agree with you about this video showing T's clear mental decline, but it just looks like he couldn’t remember a hard-to-remember name and just spurted out what he remembered. Given how his mind works, which is that he isn’t good with names, it doesn’t seem like a sign of definite impending decline to me. I’m not saying that he isn’t declining, he may be. I’m just saying that this video doesn’t show it to me.  My read on T is that decline would come if he felt truly cornered where his enablers turned against him. 

 



   
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I think that the Republican playbook against Bernie can be summed up as "capitalism versus socialism". While this will play pretty well with the top 20%, they were going to vote Republican regardless. The problem for Republicans is two fold. First, capitalism isn't working so well for many people. The gig economy without benefits is all they have to look forward to and it isn't all that appealing. The other problem the Republicans have is that the Cold War is a distant memory - "socialism" doesn't carry all of the same "godless communist" baggage that it used to. 

I still have faith that Trump will continue to spin more and more out of control and people are just getting tired of the same old act.

My two cents.

 



   
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It is disheartening to watch the Dems "eat each other" as I think Joy Behar put it. Although Warren sticking it to Bloomberg was awesome to see, as his buying of a podium was, to me, very unethical. Leapfrogging past the actual process. If he had anything good to contribute, it might have been tolerable. I came away with a bad taste in my mouth as the revelations about him were unsavory. 

 In general though, I feel they need to go after Trump, not each other. And talk about policy that will uplift our Democracy. Calling Bernie a "socialist' is doing the Republicans dirty work. When Mayor Pete said he was the only Demcrat on the stage, my heart sank. 

The message needs to be that they are united and will support the eventual nominee, whoever it might be, to remove and replace Trump. 

Also super tired of the media breaking down Bernie Sanders. He's the front runner and deserves positive press. I miss the days when news reporters were unbiased. Even though I agree with their bias most times , it still feels wrong for them to be so openly biased. What does Bernie have to do to get respect? The whole Bernie Bros. thing is unsettling, feels like a false equivalency to the Maga heads.



   
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