I have been following this site since 2016 and all of you are wonderful and given me hope for a better future. I never could have gotten through the last 3 years without all of you. Thank you.
has anyone read Giuliani or done his chart?
Welcome, @dracaena! I'm so glad that you're posting.
Also, your screen name delights me because it instantly brought to mind Cleve Backster, the CIA interrogation specialist and polygrapher, whose work weirdly led him to discover the emotional intelligence of plants. Maybe you know the story, but he hooked a dracaena cane that was in his office up to a polygraph to see if he could get a reaction and the rest was history. (Written about in The Secret Life of Plants.)
I'll just say that I don't think Giuliani is going to have a comfortable retirement in Connecticut. I've taken a look at his natal chart for you, too. What strikes me is all those 29-degree angels and points! His Ascendant/Descendant and Midheaven/Imum Coeli angels are on the final degree of the mutable signs. And his Vertex and East Point sit atop his Asc and Dsc on the 29th degree of Virgo and Pisces respectively.
All of that tells me that Rudy's in the final act of a calamitous karmic cycle. Vertex points to fated or karmic encounters, to someone(s) you will meet who changes everything. His Vertex is sitting precisely on top of his Descendant in the 7th House, which represents the other or others you're facing/dealing with, often in legal contracts, business dealings, or a marriage. And it points to one's open enemies.
This is happening for him in Pisces, whose ruler, Neptune, demands that we wake up to the truth of who we are, live from our integrity, and live into our soul purpose or calling. If we refuse (either directly or through dissociation, apathy, etc.), the result will be confusion, illusion, delusion, and perhaps intoxication (substance issues), potentially mental illness, or worse. The fact that this is happening in the final degree of Pisces suggests that Rudy is facing a long-fated showdown of the soul. He's almost certainly played this out many times before—perhaps as a corrupt prosecutor in the witch trials, or the corrupt mayor of a colonial settlement, etc.
Will he choose evolution or destruction this time around?
I'll also mention that the earth-shaking astrological events of Jan 10th and 12th were inconjunct (difficult aspect) to his Moon and Jupiter in Leo in the 11th House. @lawrence might be able to shed better light here, but my read on this is that Rudy's undergoing some intense mental distress and/or confusion (Moon) about now, and it's playing out for everyone around him (11th House) to see. Jupiter is so close to his Moon, which is only expanding that issue. But looked at on its own, the Pluto-Saturn transit to his natal Jupiter (in Leo) almost certainly speaks to the legal ramifications he will shortly face as a result of the truth (so much) tumbling out.
Karmic angles, indeed.
So interesting you mention intoxication/substance issues because his ex-wife has implied he's an alcoholic. Olivia Nuzzi did a recent interview with him that was published in the New Yorker and he basically looks like he's got a drinking problem. Google Oliva Nuzzi/ Guiliani to find it. It's short and kind of nuts. He comes off as someone who needs a caretaker.
Welcome @dracaena!
Good Sunday morning of a week that promises to be ..notably historical in the lives of all Americans. I can not shake the feeling that though it will be made abundantly clear ......that though the Present Lump HAS been shown to have done all that he is accused of with his tribe of sycopants .... he will not be removed by the Senate even if he is found guilty. Parnas has released too much information that dovetails and corroborates previous testimony given. Even if no one else is allowed to testify...it's abundantly clear what is going on to anyone.... if anyone says they do not see it, it is because they chose to be deliberately blind to it. I have seen articles floating around that Parnas worked for Fred Trump the Orange Bloats sire. I believe his attempt to "give up" info to prevent what happened to Epstein from happening to him... is a valid fear and a quite possible outcome. It would be interesting to see the cards on Parnas. In the coming days of the trial I feel that it will be made abundantly clear to all of us just who needs to stay in office and who needs to go. I still see Trump having major health issues that "require" him to step down from office and the rest of entourage stepping very lightly to avoid falling down the abyss with him. We are going to be a shaken people who will be inspired to get to the polls in November and vote out the rats on the ship.
Agreed. I'm feeling like it's a group karma for T and these souls. Karma has come due. Many lifetimes of dirty deeds.
My astrologer friend (ex) and I were discussing Ts chart last night. Regarding the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn opposite his natal Saturn, he predicted that Jan 2020 was "the beginning of the end of T" two years ago. And here we are.
Thank you for reading Giuliani's chart, I just started to dabble in astrology and trying to learn as much as possible.
Dracaena was my kitten's name. We found her and as she was investigating her new home, she introduced herself first to that plant She was a blessing for 19 years.
I'll have to look for the book The Secret Life of Plants. Another book The Hidden Life of Trees, is wonderful. They have tree families, how they communicate with their children trees and share nutrients with sick trees. I ache for them in this warming world.
On the night of his inauguration, you know, i just could not watch the TV. I went outside to think and pray. I looked up, and saw the moon, and i have to tell you, what i saw was this:
The Moon looked exactly like the face in the Edvard Munch painting "The Scream". It was as if it was looking back at the Earth, and all of us, in horror. I even went back several times to check again, but it still looked the same. Hours later, same face, just further along on it's path.
I worry that T will set the drapes on fire on his way out the door.
@Unk-p What a powerful experience - even if it sounds like it was a bit unsettling. I sensed once that if T. was removed from office that he would seek to do as much damage to Pence and the R’s as possible on his way out as revenge for them “letting it happen” to him. He would just try to cause chaos and upset he usually does.
..he would seek to do as much damage to Pence and the R’s as possible on his way out as revenge for them “letting it happen” to him
in that case, they should stay out from behind the curtains, lol
I am thinking he wants to burn all of us down
I just reread an article by an astrologer who predicted back in February 2018 that things hidden from the people by T and his administration (coinciding with a set of eclipses starting in Feb 2o17) in 2017 and 2018 would finally start to become clear from the 21st of January until the 3rd of February 2020. Those dates currently sound like the proposed dates for the impeachment trial. I wonder if we the people will finally get some clarity.
I was looking back through predictions from a few months ago and now can not find it. It was about the the White house being "split" and a photograph of the White House shown in the rearview mirror of a vehicle. When I saw this article with it's illustration it "pinged" in my mind with that prediction. Anyone recall that? This is the article that "pinged" https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/trump-myth-unitary-executive/605062/