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(@elaineg)
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It seems to me that trump has everything on his side.  He can tell people not to testify even if he commits a crime. i'm not seeing things turn the Dems way if trump can stop everything. What good  are subpoenas if they are ignored. How can they get them to honor the subpoenas?  I know go to court, but that might take months.



   
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(@westie)
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From where I sit, 45 has nothing on his side. His deteriorating health will work against him, as well as his inflexible mindset. He is cornered; he will be indicted once he is no longer in office. 

 



   
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(@deetoo)
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Earlier this evening the NY Times reported that a second intelligence official is weighing whether he should also blow the whistle and tell what he knows about the T-Ukraine deal.  He has already been interviewed by the Inspector General to corroborate the original whistleblower's account.

I should feel happy and hopeful hearing this.  But suddenly all of this news began to overwhelm me.  It's moving fast and furious.  Too hard to keep up.  Stressful.  And no way of knowing for sure how it will play out. 

Then I looked outside my window and saw a beautiful crescent moon.  I ventured outside on my deck to get a closer look.  Everything was so clear -- the moon, the planets and stars.  Gorgeous.  I slowly inhaled the cool, crisp air. Then I remembered something I saw on my porch earlier in the day -- a large, intricately patterned spider web, illuminated by the sunlight.  I don't think I've ever seen a spider web so large.  Quite beautiful.  And I knew at that moment that they all will be caught in their web of deceit.  

That's all that I need to know.



   
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(@polarberry)
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Grassley is a horse's petuti.



   
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 Baba
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Posted by: @polarberry

Grassley is a horse's petuti.

That made me snort my coffee! Lol



   
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(@melissa)
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Lilinoe, I too was picking up on Nancy not really wanting the presidency. It feels like she knows that her role is to take him down, but after that she's done. I could see Schiff as the temporary president.



   
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 shan
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@lawrence

Regarding your dream, I fear that is exactly what is happening. Trump is a fraud. He is a money launderer for Russian oligarchs (the Russian mob state). And the Saudis bailed him out of bankruptcy twice. They own him. This should have been covered by our media, but they failed us by not reporting it. It’s a complex web to unravel and most news organizations didn’t want to touch it. It is publicly available knowledge, but one has to dig to find it. David Corn wrote an article exposing this. Here is another:

https://www.google.com/amp/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html

Everything he does seems to benefit Putin and the Saudis. He likely did not want to allow any funding to help Ukraine, bc of Putin. Trump knew he could bully them bc they needed our help. Apparently, according to reporting today, he’s trying to coerce multiple foreign nations to provide dirt on Biden and Warren. If so, this proves it is all political and for his own benefit.

I believe we need to pray for a smooth transition of power away from both Trump and Pence. I would be relieved with anyone who isn’t compromised and who’s willing to root out the corruption. I prefer to pray and meditate on the blue wave I feel is coming. I believe this will happen. We will need to work together to heal the nation. But I do think we will emerge and heal from   this. It will force us to excise the corruption and evolve into a nation more reflective of our values. Will be sending love and healing to all in this group and to the nation.



   
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 lynn
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Posted by: @deetoo

Earlier this evening the NY Times reported that a second intelligence official is weighing whether he should also blow the whistle and tell what he knows about the T-Ukraine deal.  He has already been interviewed by the Inspector General to corroborate the original whistleblower's account.

I should feel happy and hopeful hearing this.  But suddenly all of this news began to overwhelm me.  It's moving fast and furious.  Too hard to keep up.  Stressful.  And no way of knowing for sure how it will play out. 

Then I looked outside my window and saw a beautiful crescent moon.  I ventured outside on my deck to get a closer look.  Everything was so clear -- the moon, the planets and stars.  Gorgeous.  I slowly inhaled the cool, crisp air. Then I remembered something I saw on my porch earlier in the day -- a large, intricately patterned spider web, illuminated by the sunlight.  I don't think I've ever seen a spider web so large.  Quite beautiful.  And I knew at that moment that they all will be caught in their web of deceit.  

That's all that I need to know.

I love your spider web, Deetoo.  It feels very fitting.

 

There's a writer and scholar named Sarah Kenzior (her Twitter feed is necessary daily reading) who refers to many foreign governments as transnational criminal organizations masquerading as governments.  When I first started to visit this site after the 2016 elections, I kept reading Jeanne's posts where she referred to the oligarchs, and I wasn't really sure I understood, but I see clearly now. Most of the governments of the world are really just criminal organizations looting their countries for personal gain. Our government, while controlled by the wealthy in many respects, has avoided this extreme, but is teetering on it now. Fighting further descent is the battle of our lives.

 



   
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I feel there is a good chance Trump will not be impeached.

Remember this all has to do with evidence, and so far Trump is winning the war of words here.

Ron Johnson a GOP senator was in the loop all along and was concerned but as soon as Trump convinced him it was all about 'corruption' Ron Johnson ate that up, and now is defending Trump.

I think many of you want the same thing I do.  we all want Trump gone.  I also think the passion is so strong for him to disappear, we maybe reading too much into that.

I am very cautious, and I don't assume anything when it comes to American politics.  Trump is a bully and so far he's been able to duck and weave and dodge every bullet that has come his way.

 

Trump is an evil genius.

 

https://time.com/5693301/senator-ron-johnson-trump-ukraine-aid-deal/



   
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Good Morning all.  I noticed noone has posted the amazing news that the WH has appointed a head of the "quick response team" for the impeachment.  Yes the new Ring Leader for the Dump Circus is none other than = DRUM ROLL PLEASE= Jarad Kusner! If I didn't spell his name right, I really don't care.  Who better than a non-principled, cold hearted, super greedy a$$$p!  If this wasn't so ridiculous it would be funny.  Once again the same old stradegy, these people have no imagination.  Lie, Lie, Lie, distract distract, distract-deny!   I wonder if they honestly think tht the Dems are that stupid.  Do they honestly think Pelosi and Schiff don't have concrete evidence of what he has done, or should I say what they have done.  The BS about nepitism re the Bidens isn't going to work.  All they have to do is point to the Dump spawn and then the Barr spawn and than the Rudy spawn, all of whom work for the WH in one form or another and all have taken advantage of the situation.  All will go down with the ship and have their careers trashed. BooHoo. These people are greedy,unprincipled and their arrogance knows no bounds.  I believe they will all fall and they will fall fast and hopefully far.  

I agree with @deetoo things are going so fast i have a headache trying to keep up.  So I decided not to keep up.  I read the headlines and of course this site but I don't spend a long time on any of it.  I believe they will drag this out until at least the end of the year with the WH shoving every obstilce they can at the procedure.  But in the end they will lose and i think they know they will lose.  They are just hopeing they can ramp up their base with lies and cause as much trouble as they can.  Dump looks like a heart attack waiting to happen.  I believe you will see more and more people leave the administration and not be replaced. Dump announced a drastic cut to the Ntional Security staff as a result of the whistleblowers.  Theres a great stradegy.  If there isno one in the department no one can tell on him  AHHHHHHH!  I am so sick of stupid.

Oh well enough.  I need to start my day.  Have a great weekend everyone and keep the light  going.



   
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