Yogagirl, did you read where Rusal is investing 200 million in Kentucky for an aluminum mill? The company is partially owned by Oleg Deripaska, an oligarch with close ties to Putin. Sanctions were quietly, quickly and conveniently lifted on the company.
It's all about money, all of it. The lies, treason, stonewalling, cover-ups-they're all in bed with Russia for profit. They sold this country for profit.
I apologize that I missed last night as well; I had to go out. I hope to make it up tonight. I am going through the monthly predictions and making a list of all predictions that relate to the downfall of mango, and Jeanne, with your permission, I will post them here for quick reference, meditation and light surround.
Yogagirl, I love your alliteration - the Mango Moron and his Minions! Very nice! I once called a Kentucky rep, can't remember his name, to tell him a piece of my mind and ended out getting the worst most annoying Thuglican propaganda for months until I finally had to call back twice to get them to stop sending it.
SO sorry you had to experience that Jeanne. Welcome to Kentucky. What is most fearful is the amount of money that the Republicans are raising. Unfortunately a large part of Kentucky is very rural and very, very poor. They are Christians and all a candidate has to do is say Praise Jesus the Dems are devils and they beleive it. They are the ones who have elected McConnell all these many years. The Democarts and indepenents in Kentucky are working long and hard to get our message out. We have two strong candidates for Governor but so far none for Mitch's seat. Heck the SOB will be over ninety years old in 2026 or when ever his next term would expire. He is a vile hateful man. He is still using the hate Obama card in his latest campaign ads FGS!.
I just read something aweful and shocking onFacebook. I am taking it with a grain of salt since I can't say for sure it is from a credible source, but.... I know it probably doesn't belong on this thread but I wasn't sure where to put it. Hopefully someone can move it to the right place. There is a group of Armed white naionalist militias now coordinating with the US border control to arrest asylum seekers in New Mexico. These guys came from all over the US to help halt the invasion for Trump. They claim they represent the true constituton of the US. The BP acqknowledges that they are not sanctioned but will not give them a stand down order. The Governor of NM releasted a statement saying these people donot belong there but will not call for them to be arrested for interference. When I read this my blood ran cold. They want to build watch towers and pick off immigrents before they cross into the US. If they do kill someone do you think MM will pardon them and praise them forbeing great americans?
What I find so incredibly upsetting is that so many Americans just skim the news and once they saw Barr's initial summation, just assumed the whole thing had been hooey and have now tuned out. That is what they wanted. Barr delivered. I don't know why any of us thought he'd be impartial, he was brought back from retirement just to deliver on this.
This whole thing is impacting the lives of many of us. I have a fifty year friend who I blocked for calling me this week. All he does is pick fights over Trump. The final straw for me was his telling me people in the news media need to be killed to shut them up. I just cannot get past that. He's gone. At my age you don't toss out friends easily. He's just into the Trump cult and has lost his reason.
I am grateful for this forum.
I believe that the Dems in Congress should go after the truth. I know that some Dems are concerned about the 2020 election and don’t want to overplay their hand, but it is their duty to investigate this stuff. But I want them to do their investigations in a strategic, honest, and thoughtful way. If their search for the truth comes out of vengeance, then it won’t work in the end. Ultimately, they need to be the light that will shine truth on the darkness, for all of us to see (maybe with a little help from the leakers!).
Right now I think the biggest thing that will change most people’s minds about going after Mango et al. is if the economy crashes. I don’t like saying that, and certainly don’t want to see it happen. Congressman Tim Ryan is campaigning in Iowa and was asked this morning whether the people there were commenting on the M. Report. He said that unfortunately it didn’t come up at all until the very end of his stay, almost as an afterthought. Ryan said the people were focused on being able to provide for their kids, being paid more or finding better employment, saving for the future, healthcare – meeting their basic needs and also giving their children a better life than what they’ve had.
Now if the Dems can convince the general public that Mango is a fraud, that he and his minions don’t give a damn about them, that they only care about enriching themselves (and proving that with reliable information regarding Mango’s crooked deals), and that two sets of rules are still operating in this country – one for Mango et al., and another for the rest of us suckers – if the Dems can sell that message, then perhaps we won’t have to wait until the economy tanks or we have a major security threat on our hands.
I really don’t want us to have to learn the hard way. But learn, we will. What’s that saying? “The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable"? So I’m going to suck it up, try to stay strong, spread some kindness each day, and focus on what is just and true. We will get through this together.
deetoo, while I do think there will be a downturn in the economy for a variety of reasons, I think Rumpelstiltskin's time is nearly up because his finances and dirty deals will bring him down. His father was crooked and was eventually barred from doing any further real estate deals or development in NY. Rumpel was raised the same way he raised his kids-dirty dealing is the only way to go. He isn't self made, his company was formed to take daddy's place when daddy was sidelined by the law. Rumple is not self made as he claims-he lost tons, and eventually got the bulk of his wealth from his inheritance when his father died.
He brought in a ringer to the DOJ to try and get himself off. It will only delay the inevitable. The Mueller report didn't trace the source of all his money. I'm not sure how much of that may be in the 12 still redacted outsourced ongoing cases. Grand Juries are still seated, have had extensions granted, etc. The fat lady did not sing yet.
Within days of the election, when asked by a co-worker what I thought, I told him I believed the election wasn't valid, that the Russians had much to do with it, and that this was about a business deal. I figured Roseneft (Russian oil) since it was mentioned in the dossier and Rumple was looking at Tillerson (someone he didn't know) for Sec. of State. I figured he wanted an oil man in the post so that when he got around to lifting sanctions and talking with the Russians, he'd have someone on board for oil deals. I had names of contacts with the Russians like Stone and Manafort. At that point in time, no one gave serious thought to the Russians or the dossier. When I had read the story on the server in the Tower pinging a Russian server, all sorts of bells and whistles had gone off for me. I think my co-worker thought I was crazy. He's a liberal, but he still thought I was into conspiracy theories (and I have great dislike and distrust of them). Somewhere in the archives here I had posted about a dream where I was told by spirit that Hillary was the true President just days after the election. It stuck with me and I trusted my instincts to guide my research-which is what I was spouting to my co-worker when he asked my take on the whole situation. Months later I even had a vision of Rumpelstiltskin in prison attire which I shared here as well. Kind of like the outfit that his Press Secretary had on while doing her denial tour in the last two days-but his stripes were vertical instead of horizontal. ;)
I had told my son that Rumpelstiltskin wouldn't make it a year. I figured he'd be out on his ear. Little did I know the time frame was for the start of investigations. I still think his time is just about up. The quicker they get his financial information and start following the money trail, the quicker he'll be gone. The quicker he's gone, the less impact it will have on the economy. We'll still see a slump of sorts, since it's cyclic. But the quicker his particular brand of chaos is put on ice, the less steep it will be.
Cindy, love the “Rumpelstiltskin” … people here are so creative with the names.
I pray that you’re right about Rumpel being ousted sooner rather than later. I had some similar impressions about the ending of his presidency, but I’m not great with predicting the timing of things.
About 25 years ago I used to frequently visit a friend in NYC. That’s when I really learned about Rumpel’s shenanigans. Being a New Yorker, she shared the real story about him. Up until that time I thought he was an egotistical showman, but I was actually impressed with how he managed to get quickly back on his feet after a couple of bankruptcies. I learned from her how he was a bad businessman, stiffed so many people, discriminated against African Americans, tied people up with lawsuits, etc. – and eventually no bank would loan him money.
So whenever I would hear that some people voted for him because of his business expertise – well, I could understand some of that, since there was a time when I wasn’t informed enough about Rumpel and was taken in by his self-proclaimed, business acumen. (Plus a lot of people who voted for him were also watching The Apprentice, so they felt like they already knew him.) I do believe that even if I were still that uninformed woman from 25 years ago, I wouldn’t have voted for Rumpel because of his misogynistic, racist, and xenophobic behavior. But I’ve painfully learned that there are people who can overlook that. An example is a female friend of mine who voted for Rumpel because she perceived him as being strong on security. When I asked her about his abhorrent behavior towards women, my friend replied, “well, John [her husband] talks that way.” That broke my heart.
Anyway, I think that it may take some time for more of the general public to come around, which might directly affect what some in Congress end up deciding to do about Rumpel. That’s why I’m thinking that a changing economy would make the difference. I don’t believe that the Dems alone will be able to do it. You mentioned the 12 outsourced criminal cases, which does give me hope. I agree with you that it’s not over.
And I love your vision of Rumpelstiltskin in prison attire!
Since we all have to remembee to laugh these days, Id just like to add a few more of his nicknames Ive heard over the past 2 years.
Oompa loompa
Circus peanut
The Clockwork Orange
Shooter McGavin(when he decided he could take out an active shooter)
Orange Julius Caesar
President inmate 48203
Agent Orange
Sgt Bone Spur
Wizard of Id
Manchurian Candidate
MAS1581, thanks for making me laugh! Here are a few more:
The Tazmanian Devil
Jimmy the Cheese
Donny Shortfingers
The Rat Pack (his enforcers and enablers)
Baby Herman (from Roger Rabbit movie)
Jessica Rabbit (T’s daughter: “I’m not bad. I’m just drawn that way.”)
Toontown (the current WH)
Tweedledum and Tweedledee (his sons)