I still haven't read the report, just saw some headlines. I feel it's a sham. It is incomplete because the investigation was not completed and the conclusions not completed.
Whitaker took over in November 2018. The Mueller Report is dated March 2019. A lot of changes happened during that time. I don't trust the report. I have not even been interested in reading it. Bluebelle and I both had dreams in February that Mueller had fallen down and had become ineffectual. I saw him as a man cleaning gutters with a long wand that spewed clean water onto the muddy gutters, then I could see orange-brown water spewing from the gutters as he cleaned. Then I saw him falling on the ground, lying stretched out on his side, like a crushed ant, the arm carrying the wand still moving back and forth but no longer cleaning anything. The same week, Bluebelle had a dream that Mueller had grabbed his side and fallen down. We reported these dreams earlier.
I will never believe the report reflects the truth. I believe I know the truth and have expressed it here in many ways. I will never change that knowing.
I believe the truth will come out someday but not now. Whitaker and Barr have managed to cut the investigation and the report down before it was even finished. Perhaps the investigators themselves will write their own accounts at some point and we will then be able to see the truth. Or perhaps the investigators' individual files will be made public at some point, like the Pentagon Papers and we will learn the truth.
Thanks for posting these dreams again, Jeanne. I must've missed them when you talked about them initially. I knew that Whitaker and Barr had affected Mueller negatively and these dreams confirm this. I just hope we can collectively help make a path for the full truth to come out and for those who deserve to be prosecuted to actually be prosecuted.
Jeanne, I urge you to go ahead and read it even though there are numerous redactions. CNN is framing the redacted report as mostly bad news for Donald Trump. In the coming days there will be hearings about the redactions to find out if some of these redactions are really just cover ups. The House will try to find this out by simply asking Robert Mueller his account of the facts. You can get the redacted report off the internet free of charge at this website: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/read-text-full-mueller-report-n994551?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
Many have strongly sensed that Mueller was constrained and felt under pressure to complete the report. Former FBI Assistant Director Frank Figliuzzi has been interested in Mueller's state of mind, and possibly the grand jury, specifically as it relates to mango being called to testify under oath. Figliuzzi addresses this pressure in the attached short interview with Brian Williams. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/ex-fbi-official-offers-fascinating-theory-mueller-grand-jury-wanted-subpoena-trump/
I admit to watching a lot of news today and my overall take is that there is a lot of damaging information in the redacted report, information so damaging to Trump that Barr's flagrant attempt to spin the report in Trump's favor is actually backfiring. It will be fascinating to see Mueller testify in front of Congress. Like Jeanne, I think Mueller's investigation was cut short and especially now that we learn there is a "robust" grand jury still at work plus so many other ongoing investigations that the report had to be redacted in part to protect those proceedings.
I’ve read the report and it’s damning. Barr should resign over his lies and misrepresentation of Mueller’s report. Wait for Mueller to testify before the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees. Tons of evidence is there for obstruction in his report. Half a dozen other cases still at the state level are being investigated. Those are pardon proof. Mueller knew what he was doing. He’s by-the-book and didn’t stray outside of his very narrow lanes of investigation but passed all evidence of other crimes to the proper state court systems.
Jean, I feel what you said in a prior post will hold true. Next year and a half will be political hell for Trump and he’ll not elect to run because a new Democratic Senate majority will team with the House and impeach him. Either that or he won’t get the GOP nomination. Republicans will smell blood in the water and will have a different candidate run in the presidential election.
We are truly at the beginning with Trump’s eviction, not the end.
Spot on, Bluebelle. I am convinced there are sealed indictments and have been for a long time. Mueller's no fool. I find it hard to believe he labored for two years, knowing full well that attempts to thwart him and the investigation as a whole, would be made, and didn't plan for it. Someone here, and I have to find it, said they felt Barr told mango that he would protect him as best he could, but wouldn't be able to cover everything.
June 2019
"Mueller brings more indictments. Trump's family members are targeted." Bluebelle, predicted 8/20/18
Amen!!
Yes. I believe there are many sealed incitements. This is a new beginning. The energy and process now moves forward.
I've been reading through some of the excerpts (haven't read the actual report), and the thoughts of well educated individuals (former intelligence community members, former/current prosecutors/legislators, current/former attorneys/law professors...). I broke some of my news boycott and read in the last week or so regarding this issue. Many seemed to believe that Mueller didn't have an ironclad case for collusion or obstruction, and I had a hard time understanding what that bar may have been. Why would Mueller 'punt' this to Congress for possible impeachment vs criminal indictment-especially with a Senate that puts power over law or country?
I feel that a good part of where Mueller was cut off was the DOJ philosophy that you can't indict a sitting president. Once they had the acting DOJ in place, and his line of thinking was that you can't indict, followed by Barr, who's ideology seems to be that his oath to uphold the Constitution takes a backseat to keeping the GOP in power, Mueller's hands were tied. I revisited my wondering about Mueller's reasoning for not indicting either generation of the fraudulent first family before the report's release. The more I've read, the more I've come to ponder if Mueller didn't take this path figuring that if he didn't indict, but gave Congress enough to impeach, then some of his farmed out work could be brought to bear to indict without DOJ interference. That was kind of backed up for me with Baba's 5 of Pentacles for Mueller. He is on the outside looking in, looking for refuge and assistance. He was working for the DOJ, and as such he had no assistance. On the outside, it would be rugged, but Mueller's ethics are not currently in sync with the upper echelons of the DOJ at the moment.
What I've been reading of scholarly interpretations of the report say that there was enough there to make a case for obstruction-without a doubt. It's borderline on the collusion as far as being proven beyond a reasonable doubt for Littlefinger, but Jr. and the rest of the campaign workers is another story.
Part of what I feel is happening is that it's not time yet for the entire house of cards to fall. Faux "News" has been crowing. Even asking for Dems and real news networks to issue apologies for their coverage. I happen to agree about the news networks owing an apology. They played the entertainment game through the election and through the report issuance itself. If they had not been pandering for ratings and doing more real investigating, the US population would be more informed. It's like the Tower card. Everything that is weak, unfit, and corrupt must fall. The only thing that should be left standing is the part of the foundation that is sturdy and reliable.
The report showed that the Russians interfered with our elections and that had an effect on the results. We may never be able to quantify the effect, but the election itself and it's outcome should have gained more concern. Instead it's a game of smoke and mirrors. The news and the hardcore GOP base don't care about that. It worked in their favor, so it's ok to let it slide. Hypocrites can rarely see their own hypocrisy. While we all focus on the other issues-which need attention-we can't say well that's old news and not keep bringing it to the forefront once the crimes and criminals have been dealt with. Littlefinger and his posse may not be on the next set of ballots, but that doesn't mean that the Russians won't continue to try and meddle.
Too many people still believe what is spewed on Faux "News" and will deny there was anything more going on than a witch hunt. This will change. The redacted version is just the tip of the iceberg. With the exposure of Sen. Burr and the Senate Intel Committee providing the WH with information on the investigation, things will change. Dems will now press harder to reveal what's in Littlefinger's taxes, the corrupt dealings with banks, and emoluments issues- and they'll do so without regard to their fellow GOP's committee members feelings, warnings, or input..
This is just the beginning of the voyage. The ship has just left it's last port. Everyone, including passengers, thought that the Titanic was unsinkable. We all know how that turned out.
My hero, maxine Waters, just called Barr a FAKE AG! Love that women. I agree with what everyone has said. I think Mueller's process was interferred with all along. I also feel he is smart enough to realize these hackers were going to try to trash the report and he made safe guards by passing info to other agencies. Right now the Dems seem to be coming out in full force, I hope they keep this up. Pelosi made a strong point that the last election was interferred with by the Russians and that this needs to be addressed. I don't think they will impeach simly becausse the Reps won't vote for it. The Reps are the "me first American people last" party. Mitch will not allow anything to happen to Trump. He likes his money too much. I will say Mitch is taking a beating here in Kentucky. The two major newpapers in Louisville and Lexington have been bruital to him. He diserves it. Two of our Reps, Masey and Barr (?), have made public fools of themselves in the last couple of weeks. I can't remember if that guys name is Barr of not, he is from Eastern Ky and invited AOC to come to talk to the coal miners and explain her Green policy. She accepted whole heartedly and he backed down. In typical AOC fashion she owned him! Masey tried to go toe to toe with John Kerry and looked exactly like the ass he is. That's why I get so upset when people say call your representatives, these are my representatives! I never voted for any of them. I don't know who Kentucly will get to run against Mitch bt we need someone young and stromg. So far no takers.
I'm sorry I missed the meditation last night. I am having router problems and coundn't log in. I did light three white candles and state an intention of solidarity with the Pink Full Moon Meditation. I hoped it helped.
I agree I don' think this is over by a long shot. The mango moron and his minions are too arrogant to not continue to do obvious stupid things. None of them are smart enough to keep their mouths shut. They will be brought down. I do believe that this will follow them the rest of their careers and will hurt them mightly.