It was long ago that I had rhymes coming in my head.
this one evolved over the last days, do not know why they start again
The new age
While the crown will punish the human race,
And the orange Nero plays the fiddle of vanity,
in the land of the un-united I see a New Face,
To cure Her country from testosterone insanity
Soldiers against people, Tanks at a mall
the dragon and the bear Will be scared
Lady Europe’s north will grow tall
New face will do what no-one dared
The way to normal will be steep
But old allies will stand on her side
it will be small steps not a leap
But in twenty-one I see more light
the crown will bring a lot of good change
mankind will worship life much more
Neighbors will not anymore the strange
and local goods worshipped in the store
thank you universe ,,,
I wish that all will make earth a better plasce0
I've been seeing a second market crash, too-late summer or September. That's my gut feeling. The market appears to be in a bubble and the lack of a unified national response to the pandemic will be its undoing, that and the lack of leadership in the country. Would absolutely love to be wrong about both, but that knowing is in the back of my mind every day. I did a reading for someone concerned about her business back in mid May and the reading also showed modified shutdowns in many states leading to a national shut down in the fall. I would love to be wrong about this, too, as I can't even wrap my mind around a national shutdown and what it would mean for our country.
Is anyone else picking up something similar about the market or heaven forbid, a national shutdown? If you are seeing sunshine, blue clouds and clear sailing ahead, please let me know.
New face will do what no-one dared
The way to normal will be steep
This is so cool! I highlighted your lines about a new face because I remember some predictions (will try to track them down) pointing to someone unknown but charming who will rise to the fore. Am I right that you are suggesting this new face will come out of Europe? Thank you - you may have a career as a spiritual rapper!
Back in 2016, I also had this sinking feeling that Hillary wasn't gong to win. I kept hoping I was wrong. I kept dismissing it as just being a worry wart. I thought people were relying WAY too much on the polls. Something wasn't right, but I didn't know why.
On election day, I took my dad to the polls. He was dying of lung cancer, but he insisted on going to the polls so he could vote for the first woman president. I was honored to take him and so proud of his conviction. Later that night, we sat together in his condo watching the election results. He nodded off to sleep, and I got him put into bed before going back to my hotel. His condo was tiny. Anyhow, I was on the phone with my husband when they called it for Trump. I felt so sick. I also knew I had to go back to my dad's condo. I drove by and sure enough, the light was on. He was sitting by the TV just staring at it kind of dumbstruck. I put him back to bed and went back to my hotel and cried and cried. I knew it was going to be bad. My dad didn't live to see Trump inaugurated. I am glad he didn't have to live through these last three years. It would have disgusted him. I remember feeling like I wished I hadn't been right about thinking Hillary wouldn't win. It made me wonder why I felt that. I was still dismissing any intuition I might be tapping into.
The biggest ones I get that turn out to be accurate later are the ones related to my kids -- especially my son. I call it my "momdar." My son knows to watch out for when I get signals. I'll always go to him and say, "Okay, what's up?" As time has gone on, he knows it's pointless to try and fend me off! Haha.
I am so glad I found this site. I am learning to listen to my non-momdar inklings more and more.
@tbs
Loved your poem and am so happy you shared it. I too wonder about the new face. I also like the term orange Nero.
"momdar" :D. We are also glad you found us on here Jeanne's site.
I believe a few people have predicted an additional stock market crash. I have been thinking about this too, but it may be because others have predicted it and so it is on my mind. I think we are leaning towards another multi-state shutdown or at least partial lockdown. There is no way we can deal with the virus without one. I have no idea what this means for school. Students in Arizona go back between late July and mid August. They are no where near ready to figure out either of those situations. My daughter who will be teaching in Texas next year has heard nothing about what school might look like if it is in person, nor if it is online or a hybrid of both.
There is no way we can deal with the virus without one
I feel the same way. I think beginning in September or October, governors will be instituting coordinated lockdowns as flu season gets going. We need another round of lockdowns if we truly want to institute effective containment procedures and reset the trajectory of the coronavirus in this country.
There will almost certainly be another stock market crash this year. People and nations tend to behave irrationally when an economic or political trend starts to exhaust itself (think of tulip mania in the 17th century Netherlands) and the global bull market we've been witnessing since March is a case study in mass delusion before a derail.
Following up to say, I read a bit online about the Dutch tulip mania after I responded to you and came across this passage in Wikipedia:
"The collapse [of the tulip speculative bubble] began in Haarlem, when, for the first time, buyers apparently refused to show up at a routine bulb auction. This may have been because Haarlem was then suffering from an outbreak of bubonic plague. The existence of the plague may have helped to create a culture of fatalistic risk-taking that allowed the speculation to skyrocket in the first place;[37] this outbreak might also have helped to burst the bubble."[38]
Echoes of what's happening today, no?
In 2021 I see a clean Oval office filled with sunlight (thank God), but so far it's empty. I have no idea what that means.
@Lovendures and @pikake
I think the new face is from the US. If I see Biden, I do not see the next President, and if I see Trump, I also do not see the next President. I know it is almost impossible, but my feeling is a third person will become President ( And still think a female person) ( see quote from @Deetoo as well).
The other person from Europe that will in the future be the helping hand to the US ( Once Trump is gone) : I keep getting "Mutti" in my head, Mutti ( Mother) is the nickname from Merkel in Germany. But in 2021 ongoing. Covid will keep us hostage for a year, until we get rid of some bad leaders in the world, I fear.
"Mutti" will push Lady Europe to help the new Face. I now had triple M in my head, Merkel, Macrone ( France) and another M , maybe that is the new face.
But it will be better for most of us over time . At least I hope
@bluebelle
Same her but maybe earlier, I was thinking July. It is a bubble, and the next crash might take longer to recover from. Another think that keep coming back into my mind is, who is going to payback all the money that the governments are spending now? And where is that money coming from. Maybe this is the real bubble, the money is maybe just "printed" t keep us going.
2020 is just a bad year, a renewal year.So many things happen, but maybe it results in a new roaring 50s :-) . I believe Glocal will be bigger, work together Globally but buy locally, we need to slow down, buying stuff online is only half the fun. try buy a book in your local store, enjoy the talk and make buying an experience again.
@Coyote
Interesting comparison with the Netherlands, but you are right, it looks/feels the same . The lockdowns come back, almost for sure. We did not yet learned our lesson (Globally, not only US).
Greetings, and keep having good thoughts :-)
Soldiers against people, Tanks at a mall
the dragon and the bear Will be scared
I wonder if the protests in Hong Kong will begin to spread and be met with another crackdown? Apart from that, I can't imagine what China or Russia would be scared of.
Lady Europe’s north will grow tall
New face will do what no-one dared
The way to normal will be steep
But old allies will stand on her side
it will be small steps not a leap
But in twenty-one I see more light
I read this as: The Hague is in The Netherlands, which is on the northern coast of the continental EU and is the home of the International Court of Justice. If this is the correct meaning here, that nation and court will be brought into the international spotlight once again ("grow tall"). I'm guessing that someone will attempt to bring charges against Trump, his extended family members, or even the US gov't itself (never tried before) in The Hague - possibly even while Trump is still in office. The court will face many difficulties in doing so, but will be strongly supported by the rest of NATO. It may be several smaller trials on different potential crimes that will last into 2021, and much will be brought to light that was not previously known.
Wow, what a fascinating correlation to the Dutch tulip mania, the bubonic plague and frenzied over speculation. The parallels are all too clear and I'm sure your spirit guides led you to this history. It's all resonating with me, even the risk-taking behaviors during their plague.
On another note, every day we are seeing irrational risk taking behaviors in regards to personal safety as well: refusal to wear masks, refusal to accept the reality of COVID, refusal to social distance. It's so absurd, really. It's as if this mass denial is a form of hysteria about a pandemic and created into being by political propaganda. Maybe the irrational stock market bubble is just part of that mass hysterical denial.
Every day I'm glad my parents did not have to live through this experience. Not only would they be scared of getting sick, they would be completely horrified by the lack of a coordinated government response and people's behaviors. They would be horrified by the racial injustice, the rise of white supremacy and neo nazis. The only cure is to overcome any obstacles to casting our ballots and vote. Vote, no matter what, no matter what the polls say. Vote as if our lives depend on it, because they do.
I've missed a lot of posts in the past few weeks and didn't get to send you support in your job search. Coyote, you will be okay and you will find the position that is just right for you. As you well know, you are guided and protected in your journey. Your life's purpose touches this community deeply as well and I'm always so glad to see your posts. You write so beautifully and eloquently and touch our hearts, however, your life's purpose is going to reach far beyond our community, much farther than you know.
Namaste, my friend.
Little chime in from The Netherlands. We did keep tulips around, after the speculation and plague died down;-)
Hopefully we'll keep something beautiful this time around too!
@ Coyote. Bluebelle said it better than I can, but I hope you will find the job that is right for you. The universe has a way of uprooting you now and then to a point that it might seem too much. However, I firmly believe good can come from it. The journey is hard, but will bear fruit!
On another note, every day we are seeing irrational risk taking behaviors in regards to personal safety as well: refusal to wear masks, refusal to accept the reality of COVID, refusal to social distance. It's so absurd, really. It's as if this mass denial is a form of hysteria about a pandemic and created into being by political propaganda.
I've been thinking a lot about this phenomenon on collective denial. Someone in one of the Predict the Future Nights, I believe, mentioned the five stages of grief --and that was an epiphany for me. When you look at the way people are behaving in terms of those stages, it makes a lot of sense. It helps me to empathize more with them instead of just seeing them as ignorant and partisan lemmings. Heh. It also helps me understand why they are so susceptible to falling victim to the propaganda machine churning out nonsense and pseudo-science. I see it in my friends and colleagues, and it's frustrating and so very heartbreaking.
From what does denial manifest? Well, it manifests from many places, but I think this is indeed coming from grief. Collective grief. And so many aren't recognizing their feelings as grief. They succumb to this denial and to the political suggestions that they are being controlled because it's easier than the soul-searching required to recognize this grief. Grief hurts. Grief is a psychological and emotional entity, and so many don't like to face that aspect of who they are. What is being grieved? The loss of the world they/we all knew. The loss of the world *they* knew is palpable, as is the accompanying lack of awareness that this will all lead to something better. They only see and feel and give in to the sense that they've lost control and that results in the desperately clawing against wearing masks or social distancing. It is their way of crying out, "I AM IN CONTROL! SEE? I won't wear a mask!!" One lady even admitted at a city council meeting somewhere that she won't wear a mask because she doesn't wear underwear and you have to let it all breathe. Ew. TMI! Like Bluebelle said, "It's so absurd, really." Yes, it is.
They absurdly allow themselves to be fooled into thinking the government, deep state, or whatever they want to call it is trying to take away their freedom. The irony is that they've been manipulated to think this because in their fragile state of denial, it's just easier to gravitate to *thinking* that refusing to comply with health directives is giving them more control.
So let's review the Kubler-Ross five stages of grief -- or now there are seven, actually -- These seven stages include shock, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, testing, and acceptance. I see those refusing to comply with mask order and social distancing as being stuck between denial and anger and not progressing beyond those. It's very sad, tragic, even to consider the suffering within these individuals. They are suffering so much and they don't really understand they have more control than they realize. And that they could be working toward a place of healing instead of wallowing in anger and fighting, fighting, fighting.
Shock - March 10-15 is when most communities went to Shelter-In-Place. Everything came to a grinding halt. The world was in lock down. Everyone was kind of paused for a brief moment while people sought to get their bearings. Collective gasp and wide-eyed realization that this was a historic, HUGE deal.
Denial -- Here in California, I'd say it was about six weeks before the first rumblings of dissent started against SIP. I remember thinking that with the right leadership at the federal level, we could come together as a nation in collective sacrifice -- it could've been a truly galvanizing opportunity, but Orange Foolius was incapable. Our governor tried as best he could, I believe, but there was so much push back from the Republican side to make it about control. When our leaders are in denial, so many will follow that example because it's easier, I think. Governor Newsom isn't perfect, but I think he did as best he could under the partisan climate that exists everywhere right now.
Anger -- This is an off-shoot of denial. People can't accept that this isn't something any of us has control over right now. Various targets have emerged -- Democrats, science, Dr. Fauci, China, City councils, school districts, teachers, profit motive of mask-makers and PPE, the economy, etc. It's easier to find a tangible target than to be angry at a virus or angry at the incompetence from someone you might have elected into office who won't take responsibility and lead. It's just easier -- path of least resistance. People don't like to admit they were wrong, especially when they believe their party reflects the epitome of Americanism. To reject Trump, for them, is to reject themselves, their country and accept the party of UnAmericanism. So small-minded and so uninformed, but there you go.
Bargaining -- These are the people pushing for returning normalcy even though it's not time to even think about going back to pre-Covid living. I see this locally in my own school district where so many parents want us to open the schools pre-Covid style -- full student attendance in person on campus with no masks or social distancing protocols. We aren't doing that -- our plan is for a hybrid model - but parents and at least one board member are pushing back strongly. SUPER frustrating. Their reasoning is that quarantine is ruining their children's mental health and the lack of social interaction is causing irreparable harm. "They NEED their teachers! I can't teach them!" they say. I would imagine that if those same children got COVID and had to be hospitalized or the unthinkable happened, they're not considering that impact because their denial is preventing them from believing that we aren't living in a *normal* world right now. They really believe this is all over-hyped and their kids won't get it because it's not affecting children in large numbers -- Hello? They've been in lockdown since March. Of course the incidence is lower in kids. Lol. THINK PEOPLE! But the bargain, too, is about reclaiming control. Thinking will mean releasing control to the reality that we aren't in control -- not the way we are used to being in our lives.
Depression -- The beginning of the realization that control isn't possible. The futility of fighting it. The sorrow that what's lost will never be reclaimed. The dawn of acceptance -- for some. Sometimes this leads back to denial and anger. Sometimes it progresses toward acceptance.
Testing -- I think this is most visible in states where they've started to re-open, not because it's prudent but because of fear of revolt. Governors must weight the health and safety of their constituents against economic damage and fallout to same. They claim that they'll open with safety restrictions, but with so many people in denial and angry, there is mixed results. We are seeing how Texas, Arizona and Florida are relapsing into serious Covid-spread because testing the fates isn't always successful.
Acceptance -- Pretty self-explanatory, but I think even this comes in stages. One person might accept wearing masks could be helpful to others, even if they don't believe wearing one helps themselves. Or they might practice social distancing at work because someone in the next cubicle is recovering from cancer and they want to be safe "just in case." But as Kubler-Ross advocates themselves would say, one must experience all of these stages, sometimes multiple times and not in order to get to acceptance. And even after achieving a state of acceptance, we can regress back to anger, back to depression, back to denial.
I've experienced profound loss in my life -- my parents' divorce as a child, my own unwanted divorce (I fought it like hell and finally when I let it go, my life blossomed--new life, found me again, new and beautiful marriage) , a relocation away from where I grew up, my parents and my husband's parents all dying within five years of one another. The setting of my dad's estate and the resulting deterioration of relationships in my family that came as a result of misunderstandings I couldn't fix or control -- I have felt and experienced all of these stages -- still do. It's so complicated. But knowing the stages I am struggling with definitely helps -- and knowing there will be better days ahead, too.
If only someone with an audience -- a true leader -- could help counsel the collective that *this* is what we are all experiencing and to be *aware* of it. It will help. It won't immediately transform everyone, but think it will give them pause. It may give words to what they're feeling-- for some, those willing to hear it. If only we could get this into the national conversation - this narrative of grief and recovery and these stages.
Even while the knee-jerk reaction of most who are stuck in denial right now is to object, I think-- no, I feel and believe -- that it will plant seeds of thought that could help them heal -- What do you guys think?
Is anyone else picking up something similar about the market or heaven forbid, a national shutdown? If you are seeing sunshine, blue clouds and clear sailing ahead, please let me know.
I haven't been trying to read anything, but in the back of my mind there is always a reading going on about our collective. Last year before the crash, I would try to stay upbeat about the 2020 economy in light of an unforgettable 2013 reading I'd had that it would be the year of crash. But I kept hearing in my mind without asking that the the day of reckoning, was coming, coming, coming. Don't forget, forget, forget what you saw, you saw, you saw (back in 2013).
So what goes on in the back of my mind now is that there is no voice that is telling me to readjust what I had seen about this time. There is no voice coming in and telling me that it is going to be different from that earlier reading which showed a situation of slow down for several years. So I'd be surprised if all starts recovering now when we as a collective have not Yet fully recovered. Yes, we are protesting, glad of that. Yes some people are waking up, glad of that. But you can't turn a ship around that is as large as a planet and traveling full speed ahead, with leaders who are driving that engine in the wrong direction.
Every time I hear people carrying on about how we have to get back to "normal" I shake my head that we shouldn't want to get back to normal. Normal was destructive, normal was being in the middle of a sheep stampede towards a cliff.
There is no recovering until we as a collective face how out of sync we are with nature, both our own natural selves, and the natural world around us.
if we face that we could be okay. Slowing down is good for us if we do it fairly to all.
@jeanne-mayell - This may be another one for the Hall of Fame!
@parizienne - I agree, 100%. I think you hit the nail on the head. This is a collective grief and many people are unaware and therefore, unable to move beyond a given stage. Hard to do, even if you *are* aware!
I totally agree that we need leadership who can talk us through this on a national level. I think this may be the very reason Biden, with his personal history, is the person to get us started on that healing path. This national conversation needs to happen from the top!
It absolutely is so complicated - I can see some of these stages in myself since lockdown and in other areas of my life due to family losses (my mother died a little over a year ago.) It is heavy stuff. Thank you for putting this together so well and sharing it.
@jeanne-mayell Yes Jeanne, many people miss so many things we took for granted. The people I feel sorry for now are on the School Boards. What pressure they must be feeling. Especially in the red states! Omg! Those parents are pulling their hair out. I’ve been a Mom and now a Grandmom, and the parents I feel the most compassion for are the ones with teenagers! They don’t go anywhere unless they are with their pack. They consume huge amounts of food. I just can’t even imagine! I remember once at a parent-teacher conference I was meeting with a mom who had 4 teenage boys and 2 daughters. I asked her how much her grocery bill was.....$850 a week! That was at least 10 years ago! Can you even imagine? They were well off and could afford it. Now? 40,000,000 people out of work? Don’t forget, that they most likely lost their healthcare too. The depression you are feeling is well grounded. I cry daily just listening to the energy. Soon enough people will come out of denial and realize we must create a new future. It will come. It will come. Ps. Was just reading all the hits! Wowzooo!!! Congratulations people! You are happening now!!, ? ? ? ? you are the cool kids!
I really like you. writing style, ?
And very good analysis. This and the posts in this forum let me believe again that there are enough smart people in the US. As a German that is 55 years old, I grew up seeing the USA as our big brother. I lived not far from the Western-Eastern Germany border. And we knew we have a reliable big brother on our side, that saved once Berlin, and helped us with the Marshall plan. The last 3,5 years damaged that picture so much. I already compared the USA the last years with the Fall of the Roman Empire.
The protest ( BLM), this Forum, the press that is called Fake News Media have giving me hope again that the US will turn around, we need a reliable US . I strongly believed a few months ago that the US will fall apart, it might still happen, or maybe some states will seek independency . But there will be a strong USA again ( I guess 2022 onwards). Not as strong as 10 years ago, but more united.
I still keep thinking that maybe another colour than Blue and Red will raise in the politics. Maybe the white of the stars ...
Thanks everyone:-)