Hello all, I've been following the forum silently for several months, and signed in tonight to offer this topic. Does anyone have any insight into how the shutdown will play out, when it will end, the long term effects, etc? Will we be hearing the libertarian isolationist wing nuts using the shutdown as a demo on virtues of downsizing the government?
Hi Snowbird. Speaking more from experience than intuition, I have friends/family that work with or in government agencies and I used to live in DC.
I think this shutdown is going to be longer and uglier than prior ones. I think that the newly sworn in House reps and Nancy Pelosi will come out of their corner swinging, but as we all know, the Dems excel at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory... so I remain skeptical.
The libertarian nutjobs always make a lot of noise about these, but then when their social security/Medicare/Medicaid benefits don't come, they get as angry as everyone else.
Then there's the issue of the people who have to work for free because they are considered "essential personnel": military, secret service, FAA, CBP, TSA, etc. The longer the shutdown drags on, the higher the possibility of institutional revolt and/or military coup.
Economically we're headed for a BIG crash, shutdown or no, although the shutdown will accelerate the process because the government has so much biz dealings with private companies that are titans in our national economy (SAIC, Boeing, CACI, Oracle, etc.) Twitler's ideas are also accelerating this, but he keeps trying [as usual] to blame his opponents.
Since 11/9/16 I continue to believe that only out and out catastrophe will shake some of the deluded followers out of their states of denial.
On my intuitive side, I see ongoing chaos, I can't see how this shutdown ends, but I see multiple shutdowns that come any time Cheetolini doesn't get his way.
Appreciate your comments, Laura. I just have a sense--or is it just blind apprehension-- that this government shutdown will, in the future, will be seen as the first manifestation of a wave of contraction in central government leading to an outcome that some in this Forum have already envisioned.
Hi Snowbird!
That was part of a remote viewing exercise we did. The forum was "Zoron Speaks " Zoron was a climate scientist with remarkable intuitive powers who enciuraged our group 1 to 2 years ago, to try remote or intuitive viewing. In the case of those of us who had done it before it is often and/or astral traveling exercises.
It was #4 in our exercises and centered on Washington DC. First in 1935 (as I recall) then 1925 after that trying to figure out what had happened (or might happen as fate changes as our collective awareness and level of consciousness changes.
I have been doing remote viewing in my dreams and or going into a deeply meditative trance state since 1971.
When I write, it is automatic writing, so in my post you will read poetic, symbolic trance writing but if you understand that, I saw an almost empty Washington DC by 1935.
For 1925. I picked up huge event that meant a duality of symbolism blessing/warfare. That is another later post.
The link to the page on Washington DC in 1935 for mine is:
Note : mine is the 13th post down.
So glad you remembered that exercise, Michele. After re-reading it, I added to our timeline predictions on the main prediction page. Some of our most talented intuitive readers contributed to those visions. There are many valuable readings on this website that we need to go through and add to the compilation on the Prediction Page. We forget them.
Oh Snowbird,
I am howling with laughter. I typed this whole post three times on my cellphone spell checking etc. etc. as it disappeared completely twice due to glitches.
How in the world it ended up as 1925 and 1935 is totally beyond me.
I am laughing so hard!
Fortunately, I am never alone. The Universe is laughing with me! ?
Thank you, Jeanne!
Being both numerically and spatially dyslexic is a never ending source of strange doings in my life.
I just have to laugh. It us such a teacher to me of the fluidity of time but I'd so much rather go forward than backwards in my own little time machine.
I appreciate both you and Snowbird pointing this out.
The others who assumed I was elderly and having a senior moment, of course and they are such fun. But glitches and strange things abound.
Even my worst days have such laughter in them ?
DT wants to do a televised disaster on why we really really need the wall. So as you can imagine he wants to request airtime on Tuesday @ 9pm so he can spew all his crazy reason why he really wants this wall. This is going to be live so I can only imagine the crazy off topic incoherent nonsense that is going to come out of him. And then he is also going to travel to the border to show how we need that wall. I wonder if he will hire actors to play the illegals at the border. Maybe he will get to catch one too. He wants to convince the American voters. According to th article he has requests prime time from ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox and no one has confirmed that they will air it.
For anyone who is not familiar with the federal budget process, I want to explain why the shutdown situation is Trump’s fault.
In my earlier career (before 1984) I worked at different times in the budget offices for the state (MA), for a city (NYC ) and the fed.
The way the process worked was that the executive branch (at the federal level which is led by the president) sends a proposed budget to the congress who go over it and change it to fit their own priorities for the country.
If the president has credibility and relations and knows how to deal, then they haggle and end up with an acceptable budget that can pass congress.
But IN THE END, it is the Congress or legislative branch that decides the final budget. The president can refuse to sign it and congress can overrule his veto.
But Trump doesn’t understand the way government works. And he doesn’t care. He just wants his way. He is a businessman not a government leader. He made his money with graft, criminals, not paying people, and declaring bankrupting when his illegal busineses failed. The fact that the federal government is falling apart under his “deal making” is just how he ran his businesses.
If Nancy Pelosi gives in, she is changing the way government is supposed to work in order to enable an authorian bully to get what he wants. She would be feeding his bully mentality.
Prrhaps most of you already understand the process. Perhaps the process has changed since I was in government. If so let me know.
But never have I seen anything like this. Such disregard for the way government budgeting and law making has been set up in this country. Such callousness for the plight of federal workers.
I don’t know what I’d do if I were Pelosi. Any thoughts? Corrections?