Wow! Food for thought indeed. I actually started this pattern especially the hacking cough that lasts for months at the end years ago. This is my third winter of it.
But then again the same thing can be said of my weird auto immune disorders. One started when when I was 16 and I'm 70 now. I was seriously I'll, could barely get out of bed and coughed in horrible fits that left me gasping for air for over 3 months but no test yet invented in the 1960s showed anything that matched.
Makes me wonder at all of the things we may have been exposed to, developed sensitivities to or were precursors to viral or bacterial agents now
Interesting things to consider!
I apologize ahead of time if this has been addressed in previous posts.
We are now at a point where many people are asked to self quarantine or take time off from work. This is often a loss of income for those who have a job in which they can't work from home. People appear to be responsible for their own testing costs for the virus ( unless they are covered under insurance).
So here are my thoughts and questions. How can we expect to get any kind of handle on this virus in the US if the expectation is the the individual is responsible for the costs involved with the test? Should this not be paid for by the government during a serious epidemic such as this one? Otherwise those with symptoms will continue to spread the disease unless they are so severe they require hospitalization. What should be the obligation of a nation to insure the health of her people?
And what obligation does an employer have to their employee if they contract this illness?
I wish we could have a government sponsored free test and a stipend if one is confined to home.
We live in an oligarchy. Employers and insurance companies bear no true responsibility for anything. Low wage employees will lose their jobs if they get sick, which is not new, so count on lots of workers trying to hide their illness and count on it spreading as a result. The government could care less and as I have felt, their Dominionist agenda allows for the dying of many people as another item on their Apocalypse Checklist. In many states employers are not even required to save jobs for or pay people on jury duty. The NIH and CDC have been slashed - monetarily and also in terms of not filling open science related positions. There aren't enough tests and no one knows where the existing ones can be accessed. People have to call a CDC hotline and beg for info, if they can even get through.
What you seek is good, but unlikely to happen in our lifetimes in this country.
We have tickets to fly through Chicago’s O’hare next Thursday. I am becoming increasingly uneasy about it. It’s just me and my kids headed to SC for a long weekend. We will be staying with my MIL who is 82. The thought of carrying it to her is very scary. I keep praying for a very clear sign. The airlines are not saying much about it. Anyone have any insight?
Self quarantined is not the answer when you have someone ignore and go to a business event :
New Hampshire’s first coronavirus patient shrugged off his quarantine and went to an event in a different state — potentially exposing almost 200 people to the deadly illness, officials revealed.
The dimwit Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center staffer showed symptoms of the virus after returning from a trip to Italy, and was told to stay home while awaiting test results — which came back positive Monday, state health officials said.
But three days earlier, he had ignored the instructions and gone to a party over the border in Vermont, officials said.
“Despite having been directed to self-isolate, [he] attended an invitation-only private event on Friday,” the New Hampshire Department of Health and Human Services said in a statement.
About 175 people were at the bash, organized by Dartmouth’s Tuck School of Business and held at The Engine Room in White River Junction, right across the river from the New Hampshire hospital
Wow, even more to think about! We know that the current form of COVID-19 is thought to have been spread by a research lab animal illegally sold after use in a food market in Wuhan.
Is it possible that if as you have said there was previous vaccinations for a canine form of corona virus that many were working around the form of the virus with canines contracted a form not yet transmitted to humans that mutated and therefore transmitted into other animals or even humans who traveled internationally and those mutations led to a this nouvel (new) form?
Is that where your thoughts were/are leading as mine now are??
We have 9 people dead out of what seems to be a care home in Washington state where by all appearances residents were in late stages of Alzheimers meaning also severely physically deteriorating (I cared for parents regularly full time at home with this disease and watched the deterioration through all the stages and learned just how very much it is a physical disease of brain deterioration)
They were "easy" targets for the virus to get an immediate stronghold and quick deaths among them. (Sorry hate to even type that) Even now two more patients (as of yesterdays news) have been seen carried out on gurneys to waiting ambulances to be brought to a hospital.
Its huge there and in the case of that one location of one nursing home already a localized pandemic far exceeding any rational odds of transmission by cities or states in the U.S
Breaks my hearts as even when old and having suffered with years of cognitive decline we all still mourn the loss of our beloved parents from any disease.
I can only hope that all researchers everywhere and all the people from the CDC who are doing this massive detective work to determine patient one/ground zero figure this out and get that vaccine in one year not two as currently predicted by scientists.
most forms of virus are specific to species...the canine corona supposedly could not infect us..the antibodies found in bloodwork was the human common cold type. There are many kinds of corona virus that are specific to species...but as we have seen.. some have mutated and crossed species..here is a good summary of how many there are: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Some stories put out there say it originated in the "wet market" Others say it escaped the virology lab like SARS did in 2004 - " someone knows the Truth but they aren't talking"
"People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.
Sometimes coronaviruses that infect animals can evolve and make people sick and become a new human coronavirus. Three recent examples of this are 2019-nCoV, SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV."
Another thought I have too, is that humans are overloading and destroying the planet... and once things reach a tipping point Earth shrugs us off in great numbers. As the ice caps melt they are freeing up ancient microbes , virus and bacteria.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/melting-glaciers-liberate-ancient-microbes/
These would be illnesses that no one currently living has any immunity to.
Perhaps Covid -19 is a wake up call?
Just my idle speculations as I sip my morning coffee and wake up on my day off.
@sistermoon thank you. I have perfected the art of worry. ? Letting go and handing it over to the universe.
Absolutely excellent reply. This answered all of the questions or theories I've been having extremely well.
So well that it needs reading by everyone here!
Love the scientific research links and thoughts! We once subscribed to Scientific American until we realized more articles were over our head than in it but we still read a lot online...haha!
most forms of virus are specific to species...the canine corona supposedly could not infect us..the antibodies found in bloodwork was the human common cold type. There are many kinds of corona virus that are specific to species...but as we have seen.. some have mutated and crossed species..here is a good summary of how many there are: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Some stories put out there say it originated in the "wet market" Others say it escaped the virology lab like SARS did in 2004 - " someone knows the Truth but they aren't talking"
"People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.
Sometimes coronaviruses that infect animals can evolve and make people sick and become a new human coronavirus. Three recent examples of this are 2019-nCoV, SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV."
Another thought I have too, is that humans are overloading and destroying the planet... and once things reach a tipping point Earth shrugs us off in great numbers. As the ice caps melt they are freeing up ancient microbes , virus and bacteria.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/melting-glaciers-liberate-ancient-microbes/
These would be illnesses that no one currently living has any immunity to.
Perhaps Covid -19 is a wake up call?
Just my idle speculations as I sip my morning coffee and wake up on my day off.