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(@lovendures)
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@deetoo

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doncha sometimes find that each time we've finally achieved some semblance of normalcy and peace, something happens that challenges that serenity?   I sure do!  But in all fairness, let's give ourselves a break -- this has been a steady, 4-year onslaught of chaotic BS.  Covid was just icing on the exploding cake.  Pretty insane.

Yes, this is how I often feel nowadays.  It is like going through the stages of babyhood/childhood. with your child.  You spend the fist 6 weeks of your baby's life trying to figure out how to parent them and as soon as you"master" the process they move on to a different stage.  You must begin again trying to figure it all out.  Once you "master" that next one they change yet again and you are befuddled for a bit...  and it continues. They evolve and so do you.

But I liked learning through those stages.

These days it is like living in a fractured fairy tale story book, only it isn't funny. Well, sometimes it is funny. Laugh out loud funny. But the real life consequences are massive catastrophes.  

Deetoo, I am sorry you had to deal with mixed up health records.  Nobody should ever deal with that.  Glad you are ok and that the other person was as well.  



   
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@deetoo yes, it's CYA for the facility, but I kinda feel a bit sorry for that doctor because that's a huge HIPAA violation.  If there is an investigation (and I'm sure there will be) and it's found that she did not follow standard protocols, it could cost her license.



   
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@tgraf66, this pandemic has made things strange and stressful for everyone.  I do hope the doctor doesn't get in any serious trouble.  What I hope does occur is that the facility tweaks some of their protocols, so this won't happen again.  In the past the technician would take you into the office where the radiologists were located.  At that point you would speak directly to the doctor and sign the form.  The tech on the phone said the facility stopped having you sign the form because of Covid.  I don't think that's smart because had they kept that procedure in place, I would have immediately seen the other name on the form.   



   
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(@lovendures)
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Yesterday the National Cathedral's bell tolled  200 times.  1 toll for every 1,000 people killed during the Pandemic.

It took over 19 minutes for all 200 bell tolls to ring. That is a long time.  

 

https://cathedral.org/event/covid-19-bell-toll/

 

 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

I'm not sure what, exactly, you mean by covid split in the US to a more contagious version. Are you referring to the D614 mutation of the spike protein? If so, that mutation happened at the start of the outbreak, most likely still in China. It is what made covid so contagious by the time it got to the US. It also became the dominant strain almost instantly upon arrival. 

Do you have a link or study name to what you found so I am able to read the study, if it is indeed new? 



   
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Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

This is not the first time CDC has shown it's been influenced by financial and political rather than public health interests.

Assuming that testing is widely available in the US (means anyone who needs a test can get one), I wonder whether the White House is pressuring the CDC just to pleasure the President so that numbers don't go up?

The "so that numbers don't go up" would sound like speculation applied to any other WH administration, but given the President himself was recorded saying "I like the numbers where they are", suggesting that he liked to keep numbers as low as possible, there is a precedent.



   
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@lovendures

Yesterday the National Cathedral's bell tolled  200 times.  1 toll for every 1,000 people killed during the Pandemic.

It took over 19 minutes for all 200 bell tolls to ring. That is a long time.  

 

https://cathedral.org/event/covid-19-bell-toll/

Really really brings its 'home' in a way other news bites couldn't . Something about 'hearing' it in such a different way that totally resonates at a primal,  intrinsic level.

Reminds me of the impact of the cheering and clapping that New Yorkers do every night at 7 p.m.

It makes me think that even music must go to the most basic root of the sounds themselves. Harmonic convergence and all of its symbolism  and a whole lot more.

I'm going to start paying attention to the sound created within the sound bites more closely. There's definitely messages in the mediums!

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@mas1581. Sorry not to have included the link to a story that came out yesterday.  9.23.20 WAPO: Massive genetic study shows Coronavirus mutating and potentially evolving admit U.S. Spread. 

One of the sequences they identified is more contagious and this is now happening when the virus is spreading within the U.S., thanks to the president and his followers. 



   
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(@mas1581)
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@jeanne-mayell

Thats the one I read and referred to. Its just a simple mutation to make it more transmissible, which happened very early on in the virus timeline-probably while it was still contained in China. If you recall our phone conversation, I had said that it will most likely mutate to become more transmissible and less deadly, which will help its survival, and end up becoming one of our seasonal illnesses that we just deal with like the flu. Its mutating slowly, which does give more hope than I expected to a vaccine but our kids and grandkids will think little of it in the future just as we don't think that much of seasonal influenza viruses(one of which is a mutated version of the Spanish flu)



   
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@mas1581 Thanks for clarifying.  I do remember you making the point quite a while back of it mutating to a more transmissible, less dangerous seasonal illness. I am assuming you read yesterday's article about this new study, and am now wondering why it made headlines yesterday if it is old news.  The article said it was a new study based on the spread in Houston, just released and not peer reviewed yet.  So you are saying that that the particular mutation they identified is the same one identified back in China although it is here spreading through the Houston population. Some experts seemed concerned because as long as the U .S. fails to control the spread of Covid, it gives it more opportunities to mutate in new ways and we could end up with something that is both virulent and more transmissible instead of more transmissible but less virulent.



   
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