There are two views about how long it will take to develop a covid-19 vaccine, and as with nearly everything else, they diverge along party lines. Trump says it can all be taken care of in a few months. But scientists say otherwise. The mainstream press quotes the science.
This detailed New Yorker article that just came out interviewed some top vaccine experts who say it will be a year and a half at the earliest. They explain the reasons, which involve clinical trials that are needed to make sure that the drug they make won't make people worse. A lot of work has been going on with similar viruses over the past few years, so they had a head start, and even with a head start, the top experts say it is a year and a half away.
I am posting a prediction I made in 2014 of these years. It looks like whatever is riling our collective, which I saw as a lot of volatile lines that head downward like the markets; the volatility disappears later in 2021. I don't know if it is all caused by the virus, but it seems to fit.
@jeanne-mayell this is accurate RE the timeline (i.e. what is in the New Yorker article). I work in a major medical center that also has a vaccine center and this is absolutely correct RE clinical trials and safety - it cannot go straight into humans.
Trump only wants it to be a in a few months so he can take credit for it and say it was his administration. He doesn’t care about anything else but just taking credit for it. If he cared he wouldn’t be lying so much about this new virus.
@anita Nothing aggravates me more than these people who only care about their 401K. What about the environment, the immigrants, the poverty. My friend had told me his account (he's retired) is completely over the top - he's made a fortune. The other day he told me he lost $100,000 in four days, and he couldn't care less. He says he's hoping the market volatility helps Trump to lose. To me he's someone who has always been careful with his finances but always looks beyond it to what's happening in the world. He feels, he knows that he he has enough money, more than he needs, and if he loses some, so what. He is also a very charitable giver.
In regards to the news of 2 different strains of the new coronavirus, there is possibly positive news hidden in the reports. The L strain is more dangerous and mutated from the S strain(the original). It seems the L strain is only making up 30% of the viral population(from the small sample size tested), which is evolutionarily backward. The L strain is most likely lower in numbers because of quicker and stronger onset of symptoms, which results in faster quarantine. It also could be a result of a less reliable means of transfer(cant survive as long outside of a body, etc). The S strain is less dangerous but either has remained untested or spreads more readily, or both. With the next generation virus being the more deadly and rarer, this could very well end its existence quickly, leaving the ancestorily older strain to become the more prevalent one and reduce the number deaths and severe symptoms from the virus. This would explain the geographically concentrated fatalities and if that is the case, this scare wont last long. The deadly strain should die out shortly, then the lesser strain would continue but wouldnt have much more than a flu-like effect on the population.
I could not agree more! I know people who've done and said the same and even though Democrats may vote for him again because of their own bank accounts and retirement plans gaining unprecedented money for them.
We're self employed and any savings are helping family in crisis with huge medical and household expenses since they physically are unable to work but were turned down by budget trimmed social services help of all kinds. Sad signs of our times and priorities ?
I've said before and I'll say it again. Cruise ships are bad ideas.
CDC warns against long plane trips and cruises as coronavirus cases mount.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/08/cdc-warns-plane-trips-cruises-coronavirus-124153
Its touched us with contacts now being tested at my grandkids school. Someone in their family had contact with a positive.
Oregon has 9 positives and 17 waiting more testing.
I had heard that Oregon declared a state of emergency, but didn’t know specifics. i understand how you feel, but I also know you’re prepared to take precautions personally. I am sending you love, healing light and strength to lead your family through this, because you will get through this. We anticipate mandatory restrictions by the state here any day now. Whatever it takes to slow this down. One of our major hospitals in Seattle is low on protective supplies already, but help should be coming from the government. Who knows with this federal government, though, right? We should all be sending spiritual protection and strength to our medical professionals. They are in the front lines.
Much love to you, my friend. You will be able to help others.
For YEARS now my husband and I have been convinced that cruise ships were bad ideas. Before the coronovirus there was legionaires disease and the flu etc. Just being "trapped" on a vessel with anywhere from 500-2500 people on a ship for days has always freaked me out and I've never thought it was a good idea. Breeding ground for anything going around...
sorry - "just saying" ?
I am sorry to hear that my friend. I have put you and your family in a circle of love and light.
I am picking up on so much fear in our collective, it makes me want to cry. Things are just exploding around the planet right now. If there is one lesson we can learn right now it is that we are all one people and we are on a very level playing field. It might be a pretty lousy playing field, but everyone in the world is experiencing the same thing right now. That has got to mean something.
Sending love and light your way. Remember that this may actually be a blessing in disguise. If they are already testing, then they are alerted and will take precautions, as well as hopefully slow down the spread of the disease. Thankfully, children seem to be protected. As of today's date, no one under the age of nine has died from the disease. Further, of all the children who have contracted this virus, less than .02% have gotten symptoms that are described as critical or severe. So I will pray that the light and angels will protect your grandchildren and all other children from the coronavirus, as well as all others at risk. But don't give up hope. We are with you!
I mentioned this in the Unraveling thread.
Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep Paul Gosar need to self quarantine after interacting with someone at the CPAC meeting who has tested positive for Covid- 19. The pair ar the first known members of Congress to have possibly come into contact with the rapidly spreading virus. Cruz shook his hand and hand a short amount of time with him, Gosar had a long time with him and they shook hands a number of times. Gosar has closed his office and some of his staff are also under self quarantine.
Bless and thank you. Means so much to me with so much going on with all of us in so many ways.
Same wishes for you and yours with much love back to you in return
We are one people and we have one earth, an earth we have not protected. I think we are learning something about that. I’ve been reading about the wet markets in China, how they were created and how they’ve evolved. We have caused the suffering of our earth and now we are suffering the results of that mismanagement. A retribution, if you will, a global lesson for humanity. What a thing to witness.
Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep Paul Gosar need to self quarantine after interacting with someone at the CPAC meeting who has tested positive for Covid- 19. The pair ar the first known members of Congress to have possibly come into contact with the rapidly spreading virus
Wow!!
Hope it'll be a wake up call one way or another. When I saw Pence meeting with the Governor of Washington State (that one care home in Kirkland now has 16 deaths and more being tested) I thought...you're noth shaking hands, unbelievable!
My husband now uses elbow bump or nothing even when his own Dr. offered to shake he asked the man "are you sure you should be doing that?" Amazingly slow learners when they could and should be role models!
@triciact. We have predictions of Trump being sick this month, nearly dying, carted away, etc.
Among other predictions of Trump sick, dying, done, were these two:
- I see men in suits and Trump who has his chest exposed and looks like an orange round baby, like the balloon that shows him in diapers.
- I see Trump looking out the window of a plane, possibly running away. Jared is looking out for himself. Ivanka is left holding the bag, dealing with the broken pieces. A mother looking out for her kids. (Bright Opal)
Also a prediction for Trump's ending that fits his becoming ill, although it was for two years ago, came from RunestoneOne that she saw him being carted away by two strong nurses who were holding him down.
Boy are you right on this one. Wake up call to each of us and all of us in so many ways!