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(@journeywithme2)
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Seems it couldn't stand it that Dr Fauci announced there may be a safe and efficacious vaccine as early as October more likely November... and I think this ties in to the 4-12-20 feelings I had that the first vaccine would cause more harm than good.  



   
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(@jsr78)
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@journeywithme2  yeah the thing is that the vaccine has to be at least 51% effective. So 51% of people will get the vaccine and it will work for them but for the other 49% it may not be effective and they still have to social distance stay home which is a lot of people. The other problem is that some of these vaccines are only targeting specific parts of the virus, Moderna targets the whole spike protein, but Pfizer only targets the contact parts of the spike protein. There are differences in response also SARS-1 survivors have cells that can fight SARS 2 called memory T cells, these cells can recognize SARS-2 because there are similarities other than just the spike protein. The spike protein can mutate much more quickly than other parts of the virus, so it's possible that if these vaccines work they won't work for long. On the other hand when people get SARS 2 they have antibodies that target all parts of the virus. So there is a vaccine being developed in Japan apparently that might do that so we'll have to look into that(at least more than one part of the virus). 

https://youtu.be/mWB8LbeXML8?t=3125

https://youtu.be/wyLXZmbkZl8?t=3191

Oh yeah there might be a hit somewhere I have to look for it. There is a segment of people who have natural immunity to Covid, but they didn't get it from getting SARS-1 or a human Corona virus. Apparently there is a corona virus that dogs can get that causes stomach problems for dogs, that is totally different from SARS or human corona virus but have similar parts to SARS-2, that people can get without sickness and protects them from SARS-2, I just have to find it though. 



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@jsr78. Could you tell us a little about Microbe tv who seem to be running these YouTubes you've linked?  They sound impressive and it looks like they are funded by Columbia University? 



   
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@jsr78

Yes.. there is and was a corona virus vaccine for dogs... it is a different form. We in the veterinary industry had discussed if any of us would have an immunity from years of exposure giving that live vaccine in the early days and the killed virus in later days. There is also a limit on selling that vaccine today as some people were buying it in hopes it would help them. It won't... veterinary professionals have and are catching covid-19 and getting ill and/or dying from it. There are cases of dogs getting COvid-19 from their owners also. https://www.thedailybeast.com/do-not-take-your-dogs-coronavirus-vaccine There are two forms of corona virus in canines... a GI one and a respiratory one. Many animals get some form of corona viruses : https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/2020-02/AVMA-Coronavirus-Taxonomy-Notes.pdf

All of this being said? I would take Dr Fauci's recommendations over Trump's any day.



   
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(@jsr78)
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@jeanne-mayell Columbia Virology professor, and some other professors from UMich, UofFl, and guests. They go over papers, and such. I like them the most, because when they are wrong they say they are wrong but when they are right they can explain it.Oh and they fight fake news in their question and answer parts when they get weird questions. Medcram is essentially Khan Acedemy for doctors and medical students. Dr. Campbell is a professor of Nursing in England that just makes things more simple and straight forward. 



   
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@jsr78

Just wanted to say Welcome and Thank you.

Excellent info sources, much appreciated. As intuitive as we all are on here, it's so important to keep info real and true.

Namasté



   
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(@carmen)
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People are having parties with large crowds! There was a party in New York and another one in New Jersey.

It feels like people want to tempt fate. I do not understand it.



   
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Robert O'Brien: Trump's national security adviser tests positive for Covid-19 - CNNPolitics

O'Brien is the highest ranking person in close contact with Trump twice a day. He most likely caught it from his own daughter who also tested positive. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/politics/robert-obrien-tests-positive-covid/index.html



   
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(@laura-f)
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I am flipping the f* out right now.

My husband, who does wear a mask outside the house, was on his evening walk just now. He got bitten by a dog that belongs to a homeless person. It drew blood.

He came right home, and I washed it with hot water and soap, and put some Mupirocin (that I have for my cat with pemphigus) on it, and I sent him off to urgent care.

They are giving him a tetanus shot, but said they want to give him penicillin. He's allergic to it, but they said he "might be ok". I threw a text fit - these are not normal times and I don't want to have to call 911 to rush him to an ER if he reacts. I asked him - so should I just put my Epi-pen by your dinner plate???? He agreed to push back on that.

Now I'm having a text fit to ask the UC doc if he/we should get tested for COVID in a few weeks, since we know it jumps back and forth between humans and dogs. I doubt he will.... So now I'm telling him - OK if we're not both dead in 8-10 weeks we'll know YOU were right not to worry.

SHEESH! What is it with men and their inability to acknowledge danger and be proactive???? I don't walk around our neighborhood at all since before the pandemic - it's not safe. And really he should have called 911 on the spot. Yes, they would've euthanized the dog but he said it looked like it was starving, so it may not be long for this world anyway. He didn't even take a pic of the dog/person.

We don't have the ability to isolate him in the garage yet.  FML...



   
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I don’t know how Florida open up schools. Children hospitalization are up in Florida by 23%.

On July 16, the state had a total of 23,170 children ages 17 and under who had tested positive since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the Florida Department of Health. By July 24, that number jumped to 31,150.

That's a 34% increase in new cases among children in eight days.

And more children in Florida are requiring hospitalization. As of July 16, 246 children had been hospitalized with coronavirus. By July 24, that number had jumped to 303.

That's a 23% increase in child Covid-19 hospitalizations in eight days.

If I was in Florida, I would not send my child. As it is I live on Long Island and am scared to send my kids to school albeit 2 times a week. I am afraid that they will get it and bring it home. There is no remote learning from home. That is not an option. You have 2 days in school and 3 remote learning. One of my boys is on the spectrum who needs his therapy. Thank god for Zoom. And I am worried even though Our numbers are low as of right now thanks to Cuomo. So I can’t imagine sending children to school in Florida. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/27/health/florida-covid-children-hospitalizations/index.html



   
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