I gotta let this go for now. I can't talk about it anymore without it making me angry. It is just exhausting and although it is sometimes nice to vent, I feel like I am getting inside negative energy and I just don't want to be there.
As I said before, I am incredibly grateful for how my family and I are coping. It is a difficult situation but we are doing okay. There has been some challenges sure, definitely, but we are trying our best to cope with them one at a time.
I know there is a brighter future just over the horizon for the UK, I see the light in the awakening of the public mood, the change of opinion, the shift in the polls. Things are changing and there will be change that will eventually be better for us all.
@luminous I think modern conservatism is more akin to fascism than traditional conservatism and it's very disturbing. It's so sad about what has happened to the NHS and the whole Brexit debacle. The single largest chunk of my ancestry comes from the British Isles.
I'm wondering if there is a way we can band together and deliberately work for a more humane planet regardless of whatever government system we have because it looks as if all governments are in decline and the "less enlightened" are attempting to get into power, or back into power at any cost. It's going to be a rough couple of years here because of the House, but I'm hoping once people see the chaos they'll step back and rethink things. Maybe we can mitigate the chaos the GOP in the House will cause.
The UK elections is in October (possibly)
I am tired of Rishi and his corruption, the tories must go.
Who wins?
Based on curent polling, I would say Labour by a decent margin.
But expect the lies and propaganda to come out in full force from the Tories.
I also, wouldn't rule out a May General Election either yet. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Tories delayed the election into November/Decenber, just because they can.
If they win, and I seriously hope they do not, then I will have lost faith in our country and political system for good. After 14 years of successive Tory governments and breaking everything, it would be unforgiveable to elect them again.
Is anyone here brave enough to look at the outcome of the election?
I thought it would be worth mentioning for those in the US, to avoid confusion, that we have May local elections as well. These are where we vote for people in our local council at the local level. The election for members of parliament (MPs) who represent us in parliament and make up the seats of different parties who govern England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland would be a general election, like yours in the US. This is due to take place anytime between now and January 2025, but no date has been given.
As things stand based on current polling, Keir Starmer, who is the leader of the Labour Party, would win the most seats and become Prime Minister, but that could all change given how volatile politics has been in the UK over the last 14 years.
I'm not sure what you know about what's going on in the UK, but the Conservatives have just blatantly let their Islamophobic views out of the bag, claiming that the UK has been taken over by Islamists.
So anyway, blatant Islamaphobia, blatant racism, blatant fascism, blatant attacks on the sick and disabled, blatant attacks on doctors and nurses, universities, schools and teachers. Apparently, they are all part of the communist and socialist deep state that is trying to undermine the Conservatives.
But it doesn't stop there, because all the racists and fascists now feel they can say what they want without consequence. The Tories have normalised it.
I have never been more disgusted by what I see in my country.
I don't know what your impression of the UK is, but we are not a progressive, liberal country. We are not like Canada or our European neighbours. We have not been a progressive liberal country for 14 years. We have slipped into fascism.
This is all an ideological choice. It is what they believe in and it is what they want the UK to be.
If the Conservatives win the general election this year and get another 5 years, there won't be an NHS, there won't be human rights (they want to get rid of them), they want to ban certain books and literature in schools, they want to ban the right to protest (some of this is already happening) and they want to ban certain political groups and label them as terrorists. These are just some of the things they want to do.
They are just a bunch of horrible ******* and they are immoral and horrible, horrible people. They are vile and evil and if they win the general election then I will find a way off this island one way or another.
@luminous my best friend is a civil servant in the uk for the past 20 years. He advises on health policy and his wife is an nhs doc. He has shared these concerns for years…
and, what you described sounds to my ears, exactly what America has become…
@jaidy Thanks and I'd like to pick up on a nuance that I don't think you are saying that America has become all those awful things, but it's what some of americans have become; with social media propaganda and lies brain washing many people in America.
@jeanne-mayell agreed - and I’m speaking perhaps reactionarily to the ivf news and pocket of the south, or the pockets of places banning books and inciting fear. But I guess as I read luminous’ concerns I read a description that some people might use to describe what is actually happening in the US.
I see all of it as a wake up call though, a call to action and frankly I’ve seen discussed movement to report more on the good that happens everyday- we all see it locally and we are starting to say out loud- the news is driven by reporting what gets viewers in some cases. The more we acknowledge it out loud, say it even without judgement the more easily we can reject it and shift our perspectives.