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(@paul-w)
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"Success"?? What the what?? Trump suspended joint US/South Korean military exercises - you know, the things that allied militaries do to make sure they can work together and coordinate with each other. This caught both the US defense establishment and our South Korean allies totally off guard. Trump gave up an important piece of the US/S Korean alliance for NOTHING. Meeting was a disaster.



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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What I feel about this is more common sense than trying to be psychic.  

Kim will not give up his nukes.  And he knows that Trump almost always starts with warm and cuddly then switches to the exact opposite. Then there's the fact that Trump loves totalitarian dictators and is in Putin's pocket and has turned against U.S. allies.

End result?  Due to incompetence and greed, Trump's presidency will cede U.S. power to China and Russia. By the time he realizes he's been duped, it will be too late to reverse the power balance he's inadvertently created.  He's a novice who doesn't know he's a novice and refuses to listen to anyone.

Our predictions have always shown that the U.S. global supremacy will suffer from Trump and the GOP.  Perhaps this situation is part of that slide. 

 

 



   
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Trump is a great example of the Dunning Kruger effect. Too ignorant to know just how ignorant he is.



   
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Maria, your predictions on this subject have been really helpful and have felt correct to me from the beginning. 



   
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I thought that it couldn't get any more surreal than watching DT completely betray our allies while at the G7.

And then we see him with Kim Jong Un in Singapore praise this hideous dictator, spew nonsense, and try to sell him real estate! This

has to be a new low. And yet crickets from our senators and congressmen...honestly I feel so sad for our country.

 How will we ever recover? 

 



   
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What troubles me to a terrible extent are his supporters.

And I wonder...would they truly follow him over a cliff? It sickens me to how they treated President Obama. If Obama did this with our allies and enemies, he'd be impeached, hanged, and buried by now.

I once thought I had a handle on this world, but it's truly upside down. And I know watching the news is unhealthy for me, but I can't stop watching. I'm terrified.



   
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Pacosurfer - forewarned is forearmed, but I'm the opposite of you. I can only watch news through a comedy filter, like Stephen Colbert, or the Daily Show. 

I'm terrified as well, because I think the Maganuts would follow their leadership off a cliff. They don't care for this world, and only worry about the "next" one. Their cult is one of destruction and ultimately death. The more anyone tries to convince them that their way of thinking is wrong, the more they dig their heels in.

I believe civil war 2.0 will happen. It wouldn't be like last time - states vs. states. It would be more modern (and horrible). I keep seeing a war on US soil, but it's fought day-to-day and everywhere at the same time. There is no battle front or battle lines. It's neighbor against neighbor, small faction against small faction. It's worse in the cities. It's endless strings of domestic terrorism attacks. I see the government killing refugees/detainees en masse because everyone is so busy fighting each other that they barely notice and/or are too busy trying to survive themselves. I see that ultimately the believers in the old ways lose, but it takes years and a lot of loss.

Sorry to diverge from the lead topic, everyone, and sorry Pacosurfer if what I say is upsetting. Take consolation in the fact that my future-reading skills are not as sharp as many others on here.



   
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Believe me, there is nothing you or anyone on these forums can say that will cause me more pain than what is happening to our country.
I really feel like we're in a twilight zone. In fact, seeing everyone here is actually helping me acclimate and validate what I'm experiencing. 

And you're right...it will be friend against friend, neighbor against neighbor. I can't follow some of my family on Facebook, as they believe 45 is the greatest President since George Washington, if not greater. I can't maintain that level of relationship anymore. My tolerance is not there. 

It's one thing if it's a matter of debating if the weather is partly sunny/mostly cloudy; but there is a typhoon coming, and these people only see sunshine.

So I need to break from the news, and focus again on books. Books keep me sane. And cartoons.



   
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When Trump left the G7 summit, I got a vision that when he was in the airplane he got a transmission from the Kremlin.  The transmission told him to split from the G7 and align with North Korea.  Perhaps those orders from the kremlin came earlier.  But I felt that as he sat on the tarmac about to take off to Singapore, he was wholly in Putin's pocket.  He would do what Putin wanted him to do.  

Trump is a Russian agent.   He would never think of himself that way but then people who’ve been co-opted by the Russians don’t think of themselves as agents. It started a few years ago.  He sold his soul to Putin and now Putin will continue to collect on the debt.   When he follows Putin’s orders, can tell when Trump is following Putin's orders he acts suddenly and unilaterally without explanation or  discussion.  His staff is not involved at this point.  He would just say that he has to act unilaterally because it is how he can use his incredible intuitive gift (his opinion, not mine). But I think he needs to please putin to be safe from exposure. 

I mentioned this issue yesterday in the 2020 topic of this Forum.  Today I saw Rachel Maddow talking about how Trump's dropping of military exercises with South Korea for no reason that anyone can understand. He didn't discuss this giveaway of U.S. security with his advisors or the U.S. military, nor with South Korea.  Maddow suspects  he’s a Russian agent but she never quite says it.  

The U.S. has been doing military exercises with South Korea as a national security measure for 70 years. Trump suddenly stopped it and for no reason. It wasn't part of a bargaining tool.  

The bargain he struck with NK is worse than the one that was already in place from the Clinton years. But as Rachel Maddow points out, Russia has been asking the U.S. to stop those military exercises.  

So Trump did it for Putin and without telling anyone in advance, not the U.S. Military or South Korea or anyone! Except I bet  Putin knew it was coming. 

Now it is logical that there is no back channel wire communication going on between them. How would trump avoid getting caught?  It is possible that Trump just knows he has to do favors for Putin to save himself from exposure. And The exposure wouldn’t have to be sex tapes. It could be proof of trumps collusion.

And there are agents with ties to the kremlin in Washington. So it would not be inconceivable that they are communicating. 

 



   
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(@paul-w)
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Malcolm Nance keeps saying that there is a, "Benedict Arnold moment coming". I hope to God this all comes out at some point soon.



   
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