What I like about that Alantic story is that the Atlantic is not considered a leftist publication. It's somewhat middle of the road. Of course the Right thinks it's left but it is more center.
The issue with the US right now is that we have been dragged SO far to the right that centrism appears leftist and progressivism appears bolshevik.
MAS,
I disagree about Cuomo, but I don't understand all the legalese of it. I think the scope of the investigations against T. are massive, the public at large knows very little of what's going on behind the scenes.
I do know that he has completely defiled the Office of the Presidency in ways I never dreamed, and I'm sick to death of him.
Yea, he didn't even listen to the actual question asked either. He was asked what we were supposed to read of the fact that John Kelly had not come out to deny the reports. Instead of saying something benign he decides to go on an attack about Kelly for not doing a good job, being eaten up by this world, being exhausted, not able to function and not being unable to handle the pressure of his job.
Sounds like he was describing himself though being around Trump for just a few moments would drain anybody's energy.
We just need to move past this entirely and keep it firmly in our rearview to heal and grow from it with minimal long term damage.
No. Just No. Absolutely not. I don't care if it takes years, he and his cronies must face justice and punishment for what they have done to this country.
He won't resign for one simple reason. He is indicted and knows it. Once the safety net of the Oval Office is gone, that's it.
And that's why he's trying so hard to steal the election, so he can stave that off for another four years while he removes/covers up as much as he can.
I'm sure Cuomo would let him off in NY if he agreed to resign. Im not sure NY Governors power but Im confident a deal can be made there
Again, I disagree. Cuomo has his own issues, but as much as he has opposed the orange one for the last four years, there's no way - barring blackmail, which I wouldn't put past Orangina and his minions - Cuomo will make any deal.
Sounds like he was describing himself
If you notice, almost all of the things he's accused others of doing, he's guilty of, and he knows it. It's classic projection.
He is truly his own worst enemy.
Such a big desperate donny boy energy to always explain, defend, self protect against any and all criticism or finger pointing. And always boomerangs back to and at himself again.
Ugh. So true. But then I iike the Atlantic for all the reasons Jeanne said. What a crazy and incredibly trying to always swing back into balance with each and every knee jerking event or heavier imbalance world and time we are in now.
Our great experiment US world is failing in so many many ways right now. Whack-a-mole times
No wonder we're all so dizzy wuth our heads spinning trying to keep up with the energy of actions and reactions.
I figured that would get some backlash, and rightfully so. I completely agree with the need for him to suffer over this, but I also feel that his suffering would just extend our suffering as well, and Lord knows we have been thru a lot.
Maybe its just my beliefs/faith/whatever you call it, but Im confident he will get his no matter what comes during his life. I also don't think there is anything we can do to a 74 year old man that would appropriately make up for what he has done to the world. Im willing to let him walk in exchange for a guarantee that no more damage be done and let him deal with whatever karma has in store for him. Also, even if we prosecute, he has gotten so good at delaying the courts that, with his current health and habits, he will never live long enough to see a verdict anyway. His kids and cronies will, but it will be strung out for possibly a decade in the court system before anything is actually done and that will extend our division as a country and make it irrepairable while he lives out his life at Mar a Lago in luxury
We all seem to sensing each in our own way, something big is due to help bring down Trump and possibly his whole corrupt administration. My hunch is it will have something to do with Maxwell and Epstein. No one escapes karma.
I understand your views, but I truly believe that there is a group or several groups of people waiting in the wings with damaging information on Trump. They have had YEARS to wait for this moment, and they are taking advantage of it.
Consider that the Fox News crowd pounced on the story of Pelosi not having a mask on in a salon just after she washed her hair (note: the video shows that the salon was practically empty at the time). My question-does anyone actually care when you have a President who never social distances, never wears a mask, makes fun of people who does. and basically denied the Covid-19 threat even as 185,000 have died since March?
And yet no one is mentioning the story. Not really. Have you seen any videos or tweets from people denouncing Pelosi? I certainly haven't. Yet I have seen quite a few videos from multiple people denouncing Trump on this issue concerning his disrespect to the military (which I note with great amusement that a journalist from Fox News actually confirmed a few of the facts from the Atlantic's story.)
Bottom line, this is only the beginning. Trump's enemies will drag this information into the light and wear him down just as surely as waves will wear away a sea side cliff. It is NOT A COINCIDENCE that this story was released now, just before early voting starts and after Trump has made threats to cheat on the election via the post office and recently with his suggestion to North Carolina to vote twice (once by mail ballot and once in person). Trump's enemies are sending a message to him. Basically, if he tries to steal the election and tries to employee the military to help them, they will not do so. Most of the commanders today are holdovers from the Bush years when military service was bragged about with pride and was seen as proof of patriotism. Yet they have a draft dodger now who belittles prisoners of war, veterans, those who died in service, etc.
If January 20, 2021 rolls around, do you believe that the military will come to save Trump?
Even those commanders who are Republican and may dislike Biden knows that if (1) Biden wins but Trump refuses to concede or (2) the voting results are too close so as they are disputed, they will not come to Trump's aid if he tries to use them as a means to hold onto power. So if he disputes the election results, Pelosi becomes President on January 20, 2021, and by Constitutional authority, he can't be allowed to stay in the White House without her say-so (spoiler alert-she won't.) Long story short, if Trump tries to call out the military to stop the vote, to stop protestors, to organize a coup to stay, he will find himself without enough allies.
This is his fault, in that Trump has never taken steps to respect the military. His very public criticisms of people like McCain makes it almost impossible for anyone with a working brain to believe that he actually cares about them.
This will be the revenge of the Bush "Never Trumpers," who have ties with the current commanders now and who hate Trump with a passion. This story is to incite further disdain in the military against Trump. This story is basically Trump's enemies saying "Trump, if you try to steal the election, don't expect the military to back you up on this, because they will not risk their lives for someone who calls them 'losers.'"
This is why it is so crucial for Democrats to win the Senate this election. If we win control and have a Democratic controlled House and Senate, then Trump is done. He can't pardon himself (he can try, but it will likely be overturned by Roberts and the majority of the Supreme Court, who will read the Constitution and likely find that the balance of powers are such that a President simply can't pardon himself, since no one is above the law.) If he tries to stir up Congress to help him, it won't work because the Congress will be in Democrats hands, who can always chose to impeach him again and put pressure on the remaining Republican Senators who face re-election in 2022. At worse, they can impede him at every turn.
As to your assessment about Trump supporters, I agree with you there. They would worship Trump if they found out he killed and then ate a baby. They have dwelled in darkness for so long that they can't be helped, and I have given up trying.
But there is still a small sliver of voters who are "Trump supporters" who can be encouraged to vote for Biden or, at worst, sit out and not vote at all. That is why this story is important, in that it is targeting that small number of military voters and their families. They hope to deaden enthusiasm for Trump. Even if they don't vote at all, that is still good because there are enough groups out there that will tip the balance for Biden. They are taking Republicans' playbook against Clinton in 2016 and are planning to use it against Trump now.
Final thought-Methinks that Trump's enemies have multiple strategies going on, given how Trump is so volatile and unpredictable. They will release these stories in hopes that Trump will resign before the election (by making up a fake health problem and resign with a least a little dignity.) If not, they will release the truly damaging stories starting in October, in hopes that the Republican base and McConnell will force Trump to resign to save face (again, with a fake health story, but no one would believe it at that point.) If that fails, then they will hope that the vote total for Biden is so overwhelming come election day that Trump will realize he can't win his conspiracy theories. Or, if Trump does try to incite violence and/or mess with the election results so much that they are disputed, then Pelosi will take care of him on January 20, 2021, with the military staying out of it.
And, as much as it pains me to say it, I feel that Trump has made some enemies with our investigators and spies (FBI, CIA, etc.) He has insulted them for years and belittled any intelligence they give. It honestly would not surprise me if Trump had a little "accident," or, more likely, a "heart attack" that incapacitates him. Yes, you read this correctly. I truly believe that there is a small possibility that Trump's enemies in the intelligence community may poison him with something to take him out of the race if they feel that he is simply too much of a threat to keep around during the election.
Do I want this to happen? NO!!!! (I have a cherished fantasy of him bursting to tears as they drag him away in handcuffs). But is this possible? Yes, if one of Trump's enemies decides that it is simply too dangerous to keep him around, although I suspect that they will merely incapacitate him by giving him something that may resemble the symptoms of a stroke (any obvious attempts on Trump's life will cause the right to riot)
That thought has crossed my mind as well. I definitely don't want it to happen, but have had the inkling that an allied nation(or someone who was an ally pre-Trump) might make a drastic move to preserve the US standing in the world, which would preserve their own national security.