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(@suspira44)
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@moonbeam My problem is I am not as intellectually elevated as most of you to grasp some of these concepts.

However, I agree with what moonbeam said totally. I apologize - I wish I understood the rest of it, but I didn't and don't. I am sent things from time to time that claim that covid was somehow released on the world (conspiracy theorists). I don't believe that. What I thought someone did on the board was debunk that covid has some sort of tracking device. Then someone said - I thought - that this virus presented an opportunity for certain people to use the virus (by not controlling it) in a detrimental way (re the 6 points). I thought I agreed with that.  I can't read everything that was posted here now as it's nearly 4 a.m. 

But maybe Jeanne can kindly delete everything I said. I thank Moonbeam for realizing that I am a lesser being and just read it wrong. Part of it is due to fear and depression. 



   
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@Suspira44 please do not refer to yourself as a lesser being. You are definitely not! I often have moments like these with my friends through app. People follow different thought patterns, that's all to it -> ergo lost in translation. My comment was aimed at everyone ? 

 

Don't feel bad about yourself, please. ❤️ 

 



   
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 lynn
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@suspira44  Please don't refer to yourself as being less than than anyone. It's just not true.  There is so much information out there that it's hard to process it all, and often hard to know what to even believe.  

I remember when people did believe that AIDS was released into the world to kill certain people (take your pick). The fact the so many gay men and other marginalized people were allowed to die looked suspicious, leading many to believe the whole thing was deliberate when it was only the result of incompetence, but people believed it was deliberate for a long time. It was hard to discern the truth.

That the Tuskeegee Experiment happened, or that the early, harmful clinical test of the birth control pill that were done on Puerto Rican women without full disclosure, are two examples of government using its own citizens as guinea pigs.  

The origins Lyme Disease were questioned for a long time and now appear (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) to have been part of a military chemical weapons experiment, but I'm not even sure if that's known for sure.

I don't think COVID was unleashed deliberately, but I can see how the toll it's taking on communities of color might make people think it was.  The very fact that Obama started a program within the gov't to deal with the challenges of novel viruses makes me think it was just inevitable. A better president would have dealt with it differently.

In any event, we're all doing our best here. Please be kind to yourself. 



   
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@lynnventura

Beautifully and so very kindly and mindfully expressed.

@Suspira44,  you know how dear you are to me, ease be extra mindful and caring in mind, body, and spirit dear friend.

You are suffering from an excess of situational happenings most recently the death of your dear friend that you tried so valiantly to share, and have us all share,love, prayers and healing prayers.

We are all reeling now from the loss of America that we once knew. All afraid of getting sick or dying from a virus we cannot see or be sure of knowing whether we ready have or have had.

As corny as it always sounds,  we really are all in this together. Many of us are rowing upstream in your boat. But there is strength in numbers and we have a lot of loving, experienced, caring rowers in this boat and we are surrounded you and our shared situation with great great energy and love.

@michele-b

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@suspira44

It was probably my post about my daughter's former teacher thinking Bill Gates is using covid to control the population that started it all. First of all, I am notorious for typos and omitted words in my posts because I'm typing on a phone while chasing after 3 toddlers. It takes a degree in linguistics to understand some of my posts if you read them before I can get back to edit my typos. 

There is no way you're a lesser being for misreading or misinterpreting a post. I can guarantee you that every single person in here has done that in the last 6 months. The world is going to hell, the plague is here, race riots, federal occupation, a wannabe Hitler in the WH, and every single person here is on this site looking for some sense of security and return to normalcy. Stress breeds mistakes and there isn't a time I can think of in the last century that there has been this much stress for the entire nation. 



   
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Just a few quotes (sorry, unattributed) to help us remember that we are all in this together. No one has accused anyone on here of anything. We are anxious about the future of our world, our friends and families, our communities and country. We are trying to make sense of it. Kindness and love.

”Remember whose you are, whose power is behind you and the mighty work He has called you to do.”

“Be kind to your body, gentle with your mind and patient with your heart. Stay true to your spirit, cherish your soul and never doubt yourself. You are still becoming, my love, and there is no one more deserving of the nurturing grace of your love.”

“We are nice; but we’re broken.”



   
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Posted by: @lowtide

Just a few quotes (sorry, unattributed) to help us remember that we are all in this together. No one has accused anyone on here of anything. We are anxious about the future of our world, our friends and families, our communities and country. We are trying to make sense of it. Kindness and love.

”Remember whose you are, whose power is behind you and the mighty work He has called you to do.”

“Be kind to your body, gentle with your mind and patient with your heart. Stay true to your spirit, cherish your soul and never doubt yourself. You are still becoming, my love, and there is no one more deserving of the nurturing grace of your love.”

“We are nice; but we’re broken.”

So great. Thank you for posting.



   
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So nice to open this forum this morning to all of this love.  What a group of beautiful souls is here!  @Suspira, thank you for giving us all a chance to heal this morning. If you are a lessor being, then we are all lessor beings. We certainly are all trying to evolve right now, and you gave me a chance to do that today.  

One way to save exhausting myself from dark theories is to watch my sources. I hardly look at facebook anymore. I have removed myself from "friends" email lists who might traffic that stuff. I had a friend who is reliable but he in turn has some friends who pass along dark theories, so I block his emails.  On this site, I ask people to provide links when we assert controversial statements of fact.   



   
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Next up - an article to share if you need it. If, like me, you have friends or relatives who are clinging to the outdated centrist idea that there is a fine line between First Amendment protesting and rioting, this should do the trick:

NYT: Videos Show Soldiers Initiate Violence in Portland

 



   
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@suspira44

Sorry if I "snapped" at your reply - I'm just exhausted and tired of putting out fires left and right.

You are not a lesser being. The only lesser beings are those who willfully choose to remain ignorant when others show them the light. That's not you nor anyone on here.

This week has been particularly trying on social media, so I'm going to take a break for a day or a few.

As for my points, sorry if it was unclear that these are my opinions, based on knowledge and also intuition. I'm not trying to propagate conspiracy theories, far from it. In fact, a phrase I learned from my husband this week that I think will be useful going forward:

ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE IS NOT EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE

 



   
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@laura-f  Lord have mercy...was watching that video... and had an olfactory experience!!!! Not sure how many of you know what anal glands are.. or how bad it smells when they are expressed...but.. as I watching that video... the overwhelming odor of anal glands permeated the air.. I had to turn it off. That is some bad stuff happening there!!!!

@suspira44  ~ We are all here at this time... beloved - you are meant to be here.. you are worthy and you are Light and we all do the best we can at the time we do it. I believe I may have answered one of the comments about the microchip in the vaccine... that.. there is no way they could put a microchip in the vaccine as the chips are the grains of rice sized having microchipped many a pet in my 30 career as a veterinary technician. The article I had read concerning it said that they were chipping information into the labels of the vials to track the vaccine.. not the people getting it. That would only track that someone got that dose of vaccine and be affixed to a medical record...not in the person and tracking them.

We are loved and worthy and we all have our part to play.  Much Love and Light to you.

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(@suspira44)
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@mas1581 actually, no, I remembered what it was. Someone posted that what Laura (I think) said was all true and not a conspiracy theory. I took that to mean that the six points she mentioned were in place and there was a master plan to kill everyone. I didn't realize she was saying how to some people a disaster like this is beneficial because they can promote their agenda.

So then I thought, in my confused state, so what are we all doing on this board? If people think this is a conspiracy for these six points to come in, we should all give up. Now I realize she was talking about an agenda where people aren't upset about COVID but rather use it to their advantage, not that it's part of a plot. I hope that makes sense. It probably doesn't. 

I tend to think very literally. One time I was working in an office and my boss said a letter he was dictating was "confidential".  This actually happened. I typed the letter and put it in a drawer. Not kidding. A secretary came looking for it, and I said, well, he said it was confidential. She was hysterical. So that's who you're dealing with.  



   
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@suspira44 i hope you know that i wasn't trying to call you out, or make you feel bad.  I was just trying to point out that so many conspiracy theories are put forth, especially by the right wing, that it can obscure the nefarious activities that are actually taking place.  It is part of the ongoing gaslighting of America.

 I am glad you are on this forum, and i enjoy your contributions.  Peace & love to you, my friend



   
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I want to put my two cents in and say that everyone on this site is awesome. I love reading your posts and perceptions of the events going on. Everyone has great insight and it is so interesting how I see things that others don’t and others see things that I don’t. 

I also just want to mention that Hurricane Hannah just took out a large portion of IQ45’s wall in Texas. 

Great construction ! I wonder how much it is going to cost taxpayers to fix this monstrosity!

twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1287494208543166464?s=21

 



   
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Posted by: @lenor

I also just want to mention that Hurricane Hannah just took out a large portion of IQ45’s wall in Texas. 

Carma is a b!tch.



   
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Posted by: @lenor

I also just want to mention that Hurricane Hannah just took out a large portion of IQ45’s wall in Texas. 

I saw the videos of this and I had to laugh, but my thought immediately after laughing was that this was the purpose of Hannah, a message to the powers that be that no matter what happens or what they try to do, we have assistance from the other side in ways that they - and we - cannot even imagine.  The message to my mind is: Do not trifle with the universe and its purpose; you will lose.

There is damage from the storm, of course, but it was a category 1 storm and will be moving onshore and into the far less populated areas in Mexico to blow itself out.



   
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So, according to the Phychophant(misspelling intentional) in Chief's latest tweetstorm, Fox News is run by RINOs out to get him and(excuse me while I snicker as I type this), the Ronald Reagan Foundation is run by those damn evil liberals at WAPO. 

I've now seen it all. Fox News being categorized as anti-GOP and Reagan's foundation run by democrats. Out of all the crap this moronic maniac has spewed, this has to be the most asinine garbage of it all. He will truly say anything to deflect blame and attention.......and his cultists will believe it all,no matter how detached from obvious reality it is. 

I cant wait to see hpw this plays out. If there are any actual Republicans left supporting him, they should lose their minds at him calling Reagan's legacy out as Democrats. For true GOP, it's God, Jesus, and Reagan as the 3 greatest people ever. To insult their messiah like that should enrage any Republican. Whoever is left supporting him after this isn't a Republican, theyre all just apolitical racists and xenophobes.



   
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An  interesting turn of events this am: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jul/27/covid-19-coronanvirus-deaths-republicans-democrats-trump-latest-news-updates

national Security advisor Robert O'Brien tests positive for Covid-19 and staff were not told ..they learned by the news this am. He was last at the White House Thursday - 5 days ago - when he "left abruptly" 



   
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Trump's National Security Advisor tests positive for Covid-19.  He says it was from a family event, although the news story says he was not wearing a mask while traveling abroad recently. So it remains to be seen who else was infected.  The White House says Trump was not exposed.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jul/27/covid-19-coronanvirus-deaths-republicans-democrats-trump-latest-news-updates



   
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and as a side note of humor... while I was typing the above comment... my email dinged and showed a header of "How to get rid of stubborn fat" .... I take that as the Universe sharing a facetious moment with me LOL



   
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