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[Closed] The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning - Rebuilding a Progressive America in the Future

(@stargazer)
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@seeker4

Well said, and I have hope as well for the future. Coming of age in the era of Malcolm X, Black Panthers, AIM and the atrocious Vietnam war was quite an experience in San Francisco back when. I ran into Angela Davis a couple of times there. What a woman! Attitudah!

We were so hopelessly naive perhaps, and as Lennon once said "You say you want a revolution ...well? you know, you can count me out ..."

Having trudged through all the changes since, I feel that violent anarchy is still not the answer...

There is a better way forward, and if we do not learn from the past ... sigh.

And here we are. The exception being that the spiritual planes are sinking closer to our Earth, and the transformation cycle is deeper than ever before. Here's to ascension, and the gifts that Spirit is bestowing on us all ... hopefully the consciousness of non-violence will finally be understood.

The true revolution is within. What is happening in our 3D world is the manifestation of transformation like never before, and if the s is inside the s will come out. How else can we allow Spirit to enter?

My hope is that the new paradigm is going to manifest with as least suffering as possible.....

 



   
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(@vestralux)
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Thanks so much, everyone. ?

 

Has anyone else noticed the sudden resurgence of Anonymous hactivist posters on Twitter? Initially, I was excited (I'd seen the name flash across my mind back in the winter and thought they might be coming back), but now I'm ... suspicious. 

The first thing to note is that their apparent data dump related to the rape case of a 14-year-old girl in which DJT and Epstein were co-defendants isn't new. This information, including the court documents, had already been revealed and reported (in Newsweek, I think it was) well before T was "elected." The story never gained traction during the campaign for legitimate reasons: no journalist could get the former victim to go on record, and nothing else appeared to substantiate the case. 

It's a horrifying story (there were actually two child victims) and I'm personally inclined to believe it—always have. But that doesn't make it a viable news story and, again, it isn't new. Everything else they appear to be dumping in a great "Epstein & DJT data trove" also isn't new, even though they seem to want us to believe it is. They're calling for countries to investigate.

They're also claiming that QAnon and Pizzagate were sophisticated disinfo ops created to deflect and detract the truth about a global sex trafficking conspiracy among the very wealthy and powerful which was organized to convince the public that Dems were responsible. (And make people insane in the process, I guess.) This, I partly believe because it's a well-known tactic: convince the public that your opponent is guilty of the sins you yourself expect to commit with impunity. Evangelical preachers do it all day. Republican politicians do it all day. T does this all day, every day.

There's a lot more to all this, but what's interesting to our conversation here is that they're obsessively tweeting opposition to the notion that any rioters may be outside agitators. And they're pushing a steady campaign that images of kneeling police, hugging police, and anyone present to clean up after protests are propaganda and should not be accepted as real. This could be hard left anarchism, sure, but it feels far more like Russian active measures. Just like the CIA has done in other countries, Russia would see this moment as a massive opportunity and want to foment as much extremism, hostility, and discord as possible. Divide = conquer. 

I do NOT believe George Floyd's murder was a Russian measure (there's a popular Twitter account, a liberal attorney, who's been hammering this idea home). That's full-tilt conspiracy thinking to my mind. But I do believe it's possible Russia is behind these Anonymous accounts and posts. Interesting that they're claiming the same to have been true about Wikileaks (we know it was) and say that this is what initially brought them down. 



   
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Posted by: @laura-f

I believe i have the main points, but if those in power continue to oppress, kill, or fail to protect those who are already oppressed, then we will be back here every single time.

The well-known police motto "to serve and protect" is usually assumed to mean that the police are here to protect us and have a duty to do so.  As much as I hate to say it, no, they do not. I am not simply spouting anti-police propaganda; this is a legal fact.  There have been at least two Supreme Court decisions in the last 40 years which affirm that the police have no duty to protect citizens, even when they know that failure to do so will result in injury or death.  Here is one of them:

https://www.barneslawllp.com/blog/police-not-required-protect

In the 1989 landmark case of DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the failure by government workers to protect someone...did not breach any substantive constitutional duty...(T)he Court found that the government had no affirmative duty to protect any person, even a child, from harm by another person. “Nothing in the language of the Due Process Clause itself requires the State to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens against invasion by private actors," stated Chief Justice Rehnquist for the majority, "even where such aid may be necessary to secure life, liberty, or property interests of which the government itself may not deprive the individual" without “due process of the law.”

There are officers and departments who will and do protect their citizens, but we all need to be aware that there is no legal requirement for them to do so.



   
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@vestralux 

I too am following posts by these Anonymous folk on twitter and have noticed they all seem to be very anti-Biden. For that reason (in addition to the ones you've discussed), I'm eyeing them VERY suspiciously. 



   
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(@vestralux)
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@sistermoon 

Thank you! I totally left that part out. Very weird stuff going on here. Feels like a mass brainwashing operation and it saddens me to see so many swallowing it without question.

Beautiful avatar, btw.



   
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 Timo
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@stargazer I humbly bow to your wisdom as well! Thank you!

@vestralux I have mad respect for your insights and spiritual gifts!

@Laura F. Keep on rocken your warrior!



   
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(@laura-f)
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If you can, watch my governor speak right now:

https://www.facebook.com/watchparty/678660459362954/



   
(@laura-f)
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I'm not on Twitter, but I think you all are onto something. As I mentioned several times, there's an article in this month's Atlantic, while very depressing, that outlines exactly what Russia has been up to and how successful they have been.



   
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@lovendures

Found the post I referred to: 

06/01/2020 12:14 am  

 

Very sad news.  

St. John’s Church, a historic landmark opened in 1816 and attended by every president since James Madison was set ablaze in Washington DC.  It is also know for its "pew of presidents".  Firefighters quickly extinguished the basement fire, which police was intentionally set.

I think I misread because the last sentence is missing the word [police] said...



   
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And so it begins ...

--  T. is calling the "liberal" governors and mayors weak for their inability to control the protests in their cities and states.
--  This morning I'd heard that T. mentioned calling out the military if the protests are not controlled.
--  W. Barr is blaming the looting, burning and destruction on extreme left-wing agitators.

I have two questions:

When in the hell are those other three police officers going to be charged?

Does anyone here think that the mainstream media will fully catch up and report on what's really going on with the protests?  I'm talking specifically about the outside agitators.  You’re hearing bits and pieces of such stories, but from what I can tell, it hasn’t gained much traction.  I’m concerned that W. Barr is planting the seed of the “extreme left-wing,” and if that remains unchallenged, he will accomplish what he successfully managed to do with the Mueller report. 



   
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