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[Closed] The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning - Rebuilding a Progressive America in the Future

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@jeanne-mayell @deetoo  Such a tragic description, until your last sentence.  Just what I needed to hear. Even though Joe Biden was not my first choice, I'm starting to think he may be the right choice to begin healing and moving upward on that spiral.  His capacity for compassion, understanding grief, and caring may have an effect.  I'm not naive though to think the hate and racism will disappear as the right wing will try--probably without learning anything--to rise again.  "...the efforts of millions of lightworkers."  Beautiful and hopeful.  Thanks, Jeanne.



   
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@allyn

Looking towards the future, Allyn...

When the parade of broken hearts and the smoke and cinders clear from our horizons, it will be a world transformed. We need people like you to be heard in our legislation!



   
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I've had a headache all morning, I watched some of the news coverage of all the protests and violence. Makes my heart ache. So I laid down in a quiet room for a while to get rid of the headache, in sort of a meditating state. The lyrics of the Battle Hymn of the Republic kept playing in my head. 

"Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on."

Now as an American, I've heard this song  numerous times over my lifetime, but other than the this portion and the overall melody of the song, I've never really known all the lyrics. I decided to look them up and Wow, if it doesn't speak volumes to what is happening now, the overall meaning and history behind the song still holds so much weight in today's world. 



   
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Many of us here have intuitive instincts and mine are screaming right now. It IS going to get worse because I truly believe this was a stoked and engineered effort by the Orange Nightmare and his GOP cronies to put our nation into conflict and start race wars so that he can declare martial law and send the national guard into every state so he can stop the election in November. He wants to remain in power and is using the already strained relationship the police, African Americans, those who want to peacefully protest and those who want to use those protests to further their own agendas.

All the groups involved were always part of this situation but I believe those in our government who support this Ahole in chief are paying people to cause these situations and I even believe that the Orange nightmare is a puppet they are using to distract us and embolden all those they know are just a trigger away from being used to further their evil agenda.

I agree with @deetoo that we should use our meditation session this Wednesday to send light and peace to our nation. I also think we need to send protection and there needs to be the energy of Archangel Michael and the warrior energy sent to encase and protect people from the dark energies in control of our government. They need to be encased and removed.

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@vestralux,

Your visions of Mr. Floyd's passing touched me deeply.

A few hours before I read your post I was listening to Richie Havens' performances of the songs "Freedom" and "Here Comes the Sun".   There are two verses in the Freedom song -- sometimes I feel like a motherless child ... sometimes I feel like I'm almost gone … -- that caused me to envision George Floyd as he cried out for his mother.  I initially felt shattered inside, yet I knew in that moment that Floyd was not a motherless child, and I sensed his mother there to greet him.  There was no doubt in my mind about that.  When I listened to "Here Comes the Sun," I felt a kind of bright sadness and bittersweet joy ... and a growing sense of peace.  Your visions confirmed for me what I sensed and what  I was feeling.  Thank you, my friend.

For those who are interested, I am attaching those Richie Havens' performances here -- "Freedom,” followed by “Here Comes the Sun."    I found it healing to my heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1B9ktRCkg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOotCVMFncE



   
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@vestralux

Your description of Mr. Floyd's passing touched me so much I can barely speak. I have no words except to say thank you. ? 



   
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@laura-f  How "to be" on Facebook is an ongoing battle.  I've blocked one Trumpite because he simply became too vulgar, and it's tempting to block them all.   FOR NOW, the reason I don't is it gives me an opportunity to "take them on."   Every time they post something false, I post a factual and well supported argument.  I post WAPO articles on their Facebook pages and often attach SNOPES or Politifact when they become ridiculous and horrible--which is often.  Lately, I've responded to some of them who insult me by thanking them and explaining that I have categorized the types of attacks from Trumpites, so I can add this response to the category of insults, name-calling, vulgarities, and false claims to promote fear.  I tell them that I have a category for documented argument, but have only had one from a Trumpite in four years.  Then, for fun, I add, "Please don't ask me to leave the country as I have enough examples of those.  Why I do it?  1.  I watch and my posts often shut down their posts, 2. For those who claim to be Christians, I post a lot of scripture which also stops the discussion.  3.  I get private texts from people thanking me who don't know how to deal with them.  (A sister who explained that no one in her family could talk with him.)  4.  Way too many people who don't want to be public in order to protect family relationships, but take some comfort in seeing them confronted.  Usually, I conclude with a statement that Trump would be proud of them because they are emulating his lies, vulgarities, false claims, etc.  In addition, when they make totally false claims like "MSNBC lies too or is worse", I challenge them to post 5 deliberate lies told on MSNBC.  Then, I promise that if they do so, I will post 10 deliberate lies from Fox Fiction.  Not one has taken me up on this.  I doubt that I'm making any headway with the die hard Trumpites, but I know that some who read their posts have started to question.  So, in conclusion, a consultant of mine when I ran group homes said, "You never know when what you do or say will make a difference."  When a local sheriff called me and said they had arrested a former resident who was talking about some of the lessons she felt she was now understanding (4 years later), I realized it was true.  



   
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Posted by: @laura-f

I don't know who wrote this, but some words that definitely apply to what's going on:

NEVER let them convince you that broken glass or property is violence.
HUNGER is violence.
HOMELESSNESS is violence.
WAR is violence.
DROPPING BOMBS is violence.
RACISM is violence.
WHITE SUPREMACY is violence.
POVERTY is violence.
NO HEALTHCARE is violence.
CONTAMINATED WATER is violence.
POLLUTED ENVIRONMENT is violence.
FAMILY SEPARATION is violence.
DOMESTIC ABUSE is violence.
Property can be replaced. HUMAN LIVES cannot.

Then again, burning up an innocent person's business may cause *that* person and their family to become hungry, homeless, and impoverished.  Likewise people who frequented that business may become hungry, sick, needy if it was a place that sold food, medicines, or other vital goods.  Burning things and wrecking things also causes pollution and contamination ("violence"). 

And someone's got to pay for repairs and cleanup.  That may be individuals, insurance companies, or it may be the government.  Individuals pay insurance premiums.  The government is funded by taxes.  People pay taxes.  Having to pay more taxes or higher insurance premiums to help clean up the mess and make up for lost revenue from the destroyed business can also lead people into poverty, hunger, etc.  

The glass that is broken and property that is destroyed belongs to someone and is relied upon by others.  The destruction affects all the humans who depended on the property for income and needs. 

I can understand the anger but I strongly believe it is misplaced.  



   
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Posted by: @allyn

 

Why October?  Because of the infamous "October surprise."  You don't want to give Trump and his team time to reframe the issue.

The Democrats and Trump's enemies have been just too quiet lately, if you get my meaning.  And I suspect that it is intentional.  Despite all the big mistakes Trump is making, Democrats are being remarkably low key in their responses.  They know he will never resign (even if he shot someone in broad daylight), so someone is waiting to release their information when it will make the biggest impact. 

Does anyone else have this feeling?  That someone who hates Trump is making preparations to release something huge in October that will result in a landslide for Democrats?  Or is this wishful thinking on my part?

Yep. Sometimes I think "This can't end soon enough", then patience and prudence take hold and say "Oh but it *could* end too soon".  Too soon allowing time for Rump et al to regroup, as you said.  We know there's lots of dirt out there to use as ammo.  I definitely think the opposition is holding its fire until closer to the election.  



   
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@ana

Nope, sorry, you don't get to dilute my message so dismissively. Saying what you did is a position of privilege. My anger and the anger of many is NOT displaced, especially in light of the fact that white supremacists are disguising themselves as Antifa activists and initiating both violence and property damage. The pandemic is doing more to kill small businesses than any riots anyway.

There is a restaurant in Minneapolis called Mahal India. The owner, an Indian-American, was called to be told his restaurant was burning in the riot. His response was "Let it burn. Justice must be served."  His daughter posted this and also not to worry, they will rebuild and return to business as they can.

I agree violence is not the best way, but sometimes it's the only way.  SEE the real protesters. SEE their rage. ACKNOWLEDGE their rights.



   
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