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I saw that last night. Good for him! He's teamed up with some software developer guy, I think.



   
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You know, the thought occurred to me that anyone blasting the racist and and lunatic conspiracy theories and false contrition that Marjorie Taylor Green has done would be fired from any Walmart or Burger King job, never mind a corporate professional job.  So sad this nutcase got elected by their (must be somewhat addled) constituency.  See below.

 

Greene blasts ‘morons’ who stripped her of committee posts hours after expressing contrition. (msn.com)



   
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Here is a great article about One Fresh Pillow which was founded in 2017. ( Hogg is forming a different company).  

One Fresh Pillow  is a very small company and decided to donate some pillows  for the National Guard Troops sleeping at the capitol.  Twitter found out and now pre -orders have exceeds all sales for 2020.  They have a very fun Twitter feed.  

Yes, one could call it a " pillow fight".

Thanks @saibh for mentioning One Fresh Pillow 

https://medium.com/better-marketing/a-political-pillow-fight-brought-one-company-to-its-knees-7a0106da687c



   
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@isabelle, I am not sure weather to be happy or sad that he is not testifying.. Its obviously best for him because he can't tell the truth to save his sole. But the entertainment value is both very disturbing, and vaguely  satisfying, and at the same time if I ever here that mans voice again I just might loose it in an uncontrolled rant. Its best he sit this one out in Florida. ? 



   
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For anyone who needs a laugh, here is Randy Rainbow totally outdoing himself on Majorie Taylor Greene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ8ldD9wKmY



   
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@jeanne-mayell, gotta love Randy!  Thank you for that.  I laughed like hell over the Bachman remark.  



   
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@deetoo

Sad that these new freaking wingnuts make her look normal.



   
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Last couple years I've become increasingly interested in the link between disorders like bpd and migraines and psychic ability. I wonder if there's any good books on the subject.



   
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Posted by: @isabelle

You know, the thought occurred to me that anyone blasting the racist and and lunatic conspiracy theories and false contrition that Marjorie Taylor Green has done would be fired from any Walmart or Burger King job, never mind a corporate professional job.  So sad this nutcase got elected by their (must be somewhat addled) constituency.  See below.

Greene blasts ‘morons’ who stripped her of committee posts hours after expressing contrition. (msn.com)

You are totally right and it's something I've been thinking about because of a local election we are having near me in which one disingenuous candidate who lacks the education and skills required to manage a town, and like Trump, doesn't know what she doesn't know, is likely to win the highest position in the town just because she's a fast talker.  

That's the rub about elected officials-- because they are elected and elections are the foundation of democracy, they don't go by the same rules as people hired by a corporation. They are entitled to their elected office because they were elected and our democratic process has to be careful about stripping a duly elected person of their position. But Taylor crossed a line, as did all of the Stop the Steel people.  It would have been so much better if her own party had removed her instead of forcing the democrats to set this dangerous precedent. 



   
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One of you asked what lies ahead for Marjorie Taylor Green.  I happen to throw cards on that yesterday. It's an interesting spread of events.

Bottom line: She hobbles along the rest of the year, excited and happy to get attention riling up her base with hate on the weekends,  but miserable when she returns to work on Monday morning because, well, she doesn't have much to do.  She can show up for roll calls but that's it.  

None of her Congressional colleagues are interested in hobnobbing with her, or creating alliances.  They may have given her a standing ovation after the democrats censured her but they are going to censure her in a different way - by keeping distance.  She has little political capital because she's radioactive for other Republicans. And of  course, no democrats will talk to someone who is openly anti-semitic, suggested that Nancy Pelosi be killed, and suggested violence for the Squad.  

So with nothing to do as a Congresswoman, she can only post to her various social media followers and try to increase her base. She'd like to do rallies like Trump. But as a Congresswoman, she is now a lame duck with no power. 

After the summer recess, she returns to some bad turn of events for her. It appears she no longer has any support from her colleagues.  I think her boss, Kevin McCarthy, has decided to cut ties with her. By late January 2022, it seems to be over for her. I am wondering if the Georgia Republicans are going to gerrymander her out of any chance of winning her 2022 primary. 

I saw something else while reading her - she is addicted to conspiracy theories.  She doesn't have any political capital other than riling up hatred.  Very much like Trump only more so.  She knows she will be censured in her "job" as a Congresswoman if she keeps spouting conspiracy theories, but she doesn't have any other way to attract attention than hate. 

She ends out living a small quiet life with her husband. 

I hadn't known a thing about this woman until yesterday, but as soon as I threw a card, I saw she is addicted to attention. Like Trump. And she gets her attention by going even darker than he did. 

@saibh @lenor @tgraff66 @polarberry @isabelle

 



   
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When I read Greene's cards, I realized that the Trumpian darkness is dissipating, even though supporters poured money at her this week.

You can tell when something has had its day because right before it dies, it spikes and goes even more intense. It's like any fad, and the markets work this way too. The trend gets overdone, overbought; people carry it to extremes, and then, suddenly it has gone too far, too beyond,  and then, bam, it crashes.  

Well I predict that Greene's election to Congress, her very nature as a the shock and hate candidate, is over.  Trump is over. Hate groups are out there, and they will be handled by the justice system. political battles between red and blue will continue, but when I read Greene, I felt her impending downfall and the fall of the Trumpian era. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell I somehow think that she (and Boebert and Hawley and Cawthorne and Gaetz, the R's in general, et al, ad infinitum) will not only lose their power in Congress, but also at home once their base realizes that they are opposing everything that Biden and the D's are trying to do to help, especially financially.  When they fully expose themselves (even more than they already have), they will be personae non grata no matter where they go.

It's also very possible that at least a few of them will face great suspicion if not charges related to Jan 6, and in Boebert's case, campaign finance:

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/02/04/the-spot-lauren-boebert-mileage-reimbursement-federal-ethics-complaint/



   
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can you do a reading on Gaetz Jordan and Nunes please?

Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

When I read Greene's cards, I realized that the Trumpian darkness is dissipating, even though supporters poured money at her this week.

You can tell when something has had its day because right before it dies, it spikes and goes even more intense. It's like any fad, and the markets work this way too. The trend gets overdone, overbought; people carry it to extremes, and then, suddenly it has gone too far, too beyond,  and then, bam, it crashes.  

Well I predict that Greene's election to Congress, her very nature as a the shock and hate candidate, is over.  Trump is over. Hate groups are out there, and they will be handled by the justice system. political battles between red and blue will continue, but when I read Greene, I felt that her downfall and the fall  of the Trumpian era. 

 



   
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posted by @jeanne-mayell:

You can tell when something has had its day because right before it dies, it spikes and goes even more intense.

@jeanne-mayell, when I read this I immediately thought about a medical treatment I once had.  The treatment created a Herxheimer reaction, which is a form of detoxification within the body.  In other words, you feel significantly worse for a period of time -- as you stated, "it spikes and goes even more intense" -- and you may fear that the illness is progressing.  It is not.  The Herxheimer flare is an indication  that the treatment is reaching its target and is considered a good sign. The detoxification process is necessary to expose and excise the toxins -- the rot -- and create a space for healing.  That's where I believe we are heading.  I believe the "treatment" is the truth -- and the truth will set us free. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

 

Just as Dominion and Smartmatic are suing Fox News big time for their  outrageous lies (and, hopefully this kind of legal accountability for lying media outlets will only accelerate over time which may have the effect of "cleaning up" some of the toxic airwaves), so must Congress create some kind of basic, minimal "standard" for R or D campaigners in terms of their campaign messages.  The fact that a hate-spewing, attention-addicted, "Hitlerian" lunatic like Marjorie Taylor Green was ever allowed to run in the first place (never mind win her Congressional seat!!) is deeply disturbing. 

Granted, this poses a delicate balance between creating "The Authoritarian Truth Police" vs. "Candidates who simply possess diverging opinions"... and we are a voting Democracy with First Amendment rights, after all. Not sure how this could be implemented ... but some kind of minimal standard must be injected into the system somehow.

After all, there is a huge difference between one's legitimate "differing opinion" about how to handle the Federal Deficit vs. opining publicly that "the Rothschild family has deliberately, malignantly, been focusing their laser beams (from outer space, no less!!)  onto California with the specific intent to create massive wildfires".  One is a legitimate difference of opinion, the other belongs in a mental hospital.  One is a productive use of our democratic process, the other is a clear abuse and violation of it.

I keep thinking of Orson Welles' 1938 "War of the Worlds" broadcast where he (unintentionally) created stark terror throughout the nation at the prospect of a Martian Invasion.  Someone who chooses to use the media/airwaves or our electoral system must be held to minimal standards regarding fact, accuracy and principles of basic decency so as not to promote social unrest/ terror/hatred/instability for their own self-serving purposes.  I don't see this as a violation of our democracy --  I see this as a necessary refinement to our First Amendment rights and a safety guardrail for the protection of our electoral system.  After all, as someone pointed out on this website before: Shouting "Fire" into a crowded movie theater is not a legitimate use of our First Amendment rights.  Same concept applies here.

 

'War of the Worlds!' The Infamous Martian Invasion Radio Broadcast Explained | Space



   
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Posted by: @polarberry

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That is so interesting. I always say that unless you live with a bp brain, you can't really understand what it's like. I realize that may sound somewhat arrogant, but it's true in that it's so hard to explain  what's it's like to have a brain you can never, ever shut off.

Nothing arrogant about it: it's like having a 12 hour loop of 8-track tape (I realize I'm dating myself here) and 30 minutes of it is a really brilliant prelude and fugue on harpsichord played by a brilliant musician, and 11.5 hours of it is the same song rendered on kazoo by Krusty from the Simpsons, coupled with random bits of remembered interviews from the Charlie Rose Show, old Monday Night Football outtakes, lectures from the worst professors I had in college, and duck noises.

Of course, I go through mixed state mania. Some bipolars report having a lot more fun with it than I do. I don't believe them -- I suspect they are self medicating. I don't do that, and it leaves me wide open to the mob's emotional volatility.



   
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For those interested, this is Teri Kanefield's breakdown of the Smartmatic lawsuit:

https://terikanefield-blog.com/smartmatic/



   
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@tgraf66 reading it all in one place like that — just wow.



   
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@tgraf66

Great summary of the Smartmatic lawsuit. Thanks!  Next will be Dominions.  So terrific that Lou Dobbs got cancelled.  May Jeanne Pirro, Maria Bartiromo and Guiliani be next...  these self-serving liars must be banished and held accountable.  Being sued for $2.7 billion ain't "small change" for anyone -- even a mighty Fox News will be shaken up by this if they lose the lawsuit, both financially and public credibility-wise. Also, importantly, should Fox lose this lawsuit, it will create an important "precedent" in a Post-Trump world and address the raging cultural war between promoting "fact vs. fiction".  Murdoch must be losing sleep -- his favorite way to gain followers (via riling up his base with incitement & lies) is about to be tested.  I'm searching for my popcorn and praying that all goes well for Smartmatic...



   
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Great article in the NY Times appeared this morning about this very topic...

 

Lawsuits Take the Lead in Fight Against Disinformation - The New York Times (nytimes.com)



   
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