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[Closed] The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning Part 4

(@jeanne-mayell)
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@Cindy, I have so much love and respect for you. You  elevated the discussion here during the time you were posting.  I have learned from you what it means to walk through a fire and still come from your highest self. I don't know if I have bullied you, but I pray not. If so, then I am truly sorry.  I know I have pushed back on people over these years and regret that, truly regret it. I do remember being upset when I read that people were focused on the looters during the BLM protests rather than the cause of the protests because that had been the sole response of the Right.

I wrongly lumped people's responses into political positions rather than taking those responses at face value.  It is a lesson to me in not fueling the divide that has been a hard one to learn.  I also haven't realized until after delivering a blow that my push back on people really hurts them. I know I've hurt people who have come here and I wish I could take it back.  

As for others here, I haven't felt anyone bullying here so I guess you must be referring to me. People have opinions here but if their opinions differ from others, I haven't noticed that they meant to harm others.



   
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(@earthangel)
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@jeanne-mayell I was reacting to Cindy’s response and have not felt that you bullied others. I didn’t feel also that Cindy was being bullied, but reacted to her pain which I felt deeply, here and in the collective. I spent too much time, up until about a year ago, despising and being so angry at 45s supporters. Then I realized I was only falling prey to the insidious nature of 45 and those who want to tear the country apart. It’s hard work but when I crossed the divide, I feel separate from it now... or perhaps floating around it? It’s an unfamiliar feeling bc I def feel the pain now that others are carrying. I also remember to hold healing and protective light around myself... to save myself from myself! We really will not be the same people or country when this admin is removed finally. And while I used to be terrified about what that means, I feel a strong inner sense of peace and calm now which I cannot explain and which feels weird, but I am rolling w it. Ok, on to peeling apples for applesauce and stewed apples and apple pie. I drove 78 solo miles to Dartmouth and bought close to 30 lbs of apples yesterday Lolol. Saw New Bedford for the first time and it took my breath away for some reason. So many houses/people clustered close together. It felt ancient and sacred. I want to visit, esp the whaling museum, when it’s safe to do so. 



   
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(@ana)
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@cindy  Thank you. 



   
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(@yogagirl)
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@Cindy I know what you mean. I have stepped away from posting for a while too.  Didn't feel bullied just not welcome.

To add to the growing list, I just read on twitter (so not verified) that CHris Christy has also tested positive.  His contribution to the debate prep was to suggest to the clown that since Biden had a history of stuttering he should interupt him which would frustrate him and make him lose his train of thought.  

As I watch this list of  circus performers testing positive grow, I'm not happy, sad or sympathatic  all I can think is:

KARMA IS A BITCH!



   
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(@moonbeam)
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@cindy, so sorry what you've been through. I am a newbee myself and did not know what horror you have experienced. I hope you can find a warm, spiritual place here again. I think a lot of people get heated out of emotion, but making people feel uncomfortable is never ok. Good vibrations to you and yours. ❤️ 



   
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(@journeywithme2)
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Yes....stuff.. is.. about to get real.   It is good to know that no matter how anyone on this forum feels we all recognize that we can each say our piece, speak up and be heard, can tell our sides, our views and know that no one here means harm to anyone. That we can apologize when we are misconstrued, misinterpreted, misunderstood or if we offend. That we all are capable of learning and growing.  I pray and ask for ever increasing light, love, healing and the highest good for all concerned here in this forum, here in the US, here in the world.   I truly believe by sharing our thoughts, our stories, and listening to others do the same.. increases our Healing a thousand fold and we in turn , as who we are, make a difference in our daily lives, in our Collective Conscious. We are in this together. We agreed to come here to this life at this most difficult time, we have work we doing and have more coming.  Let us reach out to one another, hold on to one another and support and lift one another up every chance we get. We are needing it now more than ever.  Much love to all.



   
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(@deetoo)
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@cindy, I agree with so much of what you've expressed.  I do recall the new person's post about the looting, and I was upset by the intensity of some of the responses.  Although I'm generally quite careful with what I write, it still caused me to think twice about posting.  At the end of the exchange, I believe this person said that she probably wouldn't be posting for a while.  I don't think she's been back.

Regarding T's illness, I understand the intense anger and desire to witness karmic justice, or even revenge.  I often feel ambivalent about calling myself a lightworker because sometimes it feels like a trap.  In my case, there are times I don't give myself permission to fully acknowledge those basic, human emotions, so I delude myself into thinking that I'm better than other people -- i.e., more "enlightened."  I lock my shadow self into a closet and become self-righteous.  The truth is, I've  become mired in self-judgment, which leads to judgment of other people.  

One of the biggest challenges during this time is to love those who we deem unlovable -- specifically those who have inflicted so much pain on others.  We are spiritual beings who are having a human experience, and that's not usually sweetness and light -- it's messy.  I surprise and disappoint myself constantly.   I understand how damn hard this is, especially now.  I have to often tell myself that I'm not here to browbeat people into enlightenment (as if I really know what enlightenment is, LOL!) 

Last night I watched Brian Williams and one of his guests was Michael Moore.  Moore looked exhausted and forlorn.  Moore asked, "Brian, you're not much into social media, are you?"   "No, not really," Williams replied.   Moore sadly shook his head and replied, "Good!"  Michael went on to speak about the vitriolic hatred that is being spewed on social media by people who hate T.   He understands people's anger, but was sad about how they were choosing to express it.  Moore said that he gets no enjoyment watching anyone suffer.   Moore said, "I don't want to see this virus beat T.  I want to see us beat him at the ballot box."  

Again, I have mixed feelings about calling myself a lightworker.  I still don't have a clear idea of why I'm here, or what I have to offer humanity during this pivotal point in time.  But I do know this: I don't want to become the very thing that we are fighting against.  And believe that we're all here to set an example for others.   

 

 



   
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 lynn
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I wish them justice -- legal, poetic, karmic and every other kind. The suffering 45 and his ilk have caused over the past 4+ years is crimes against humanity stuff. I think I've mentioned in this site that I'm an immigration attorney. In this area alone he's cause terror, separated families, deported moms and dads and created an apparatus that is both savage and extremely racist. It's been a strain on my mental health to watch it and feel so helpless to stop it. I have colleagues and coworkers who can barely function. And we're the lucky ones, we're not the ones who are the victims of the brutality.

It will take years to dismantle the structures he's created and get this country to a place where we don't hate each other. He's brought out the worst in people. He's debased our country. I could go on and on but you all get it.  

I don't wish any of these people well, and I don't feel bad our guilty about it. Thoughts and feelings aren't actions. If my bad thoughts lower me spiritually then I can accept that, but I actually don't think they do. These past few years have taught me not to wish the best for everyone because not everyone deserves it. 

These comments aren't meant as a response/praise/criticims to anyone else's comments, it's just what came up and I wanted to share with the community. Peace and love to all. I hope our national nightmare ends soon.



   
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(@polarberry)
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To everyone,

I honestly feel like you all are family. Yogagirl, I had noticed you hadn't been around as much and was thinking of you. I love your posts.

I read stuff here I don't agree with sometimes but everyone feels differently about things and that's ok. If families got along all the time, Thanksgiving would be very boring lol.

I've said before I don't actively wish this virus on anyone, but in Donnie and Melania's case, I've got to go with It is what it is and I don't really care, do u? There has not been one word of empathy from either of them to the families who have lost a loved one due to their lies.

He covered up a deadly pandemic to save his own ass.



   
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(@febbby23)
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@journeywithme2 I agree with you.  To all here I hope we can all be open, accepting and loving to each other.  It’s ok to have a difference of opinion.  Times are hard and trying for everyone.   The upcoming election is stressful, add covid on top of that and it’s almost unbearable for many reasons.  We are all vulnerable and tender.   Let’s share our friendship, care and understanding.   To anyone who feels left out, unwelcome, uncared for, misunderstood or bullied I’m sending you love and healing.  If I contributed to any hurt feelings please accept my sincere apology.     We are stronger together and we all need each other.  Peace friends. ❤️☮️   



   
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