I wish Nancy would just start a second impeachment proceeding on him already- just because it would end his ability to pardon anyone, and they would all be stuck. Also, it would be really fun to see the words "impeached, twice" on his permanent record.
@deetoo I don't think they are coming back either. This would be a good thing because the White House is going to need a top to bottom security cleaning. I have no doubt that there have been surveillance devices placed everywhere in the WH and residence.
I wonder how Republicans will act when we get to January 6.
It will be after the Georgia runoff election, so regardless of the results (or even if they are unable to announce a winner on January 6), then McConnell is no longer needing Trump's support for the election. And while it is impossible for Republicans to overturn the election results, I think we all know that there will be some senators and representatives who will challenge them just to look good to Trump's base.
But what happens after January 6? Will Trump try to use the military to implement martial law (he will fail, obviously, because the military hates his guts)? Will he try to bomb a country and try to be a war-time president? Will his antics finally cause the Republicans to throw him out?
Spoiler alert-No chance.
I find it telling that immediately after the vote on January 6, 2021, Pence will be leaving the country and won't be back until around January 11, 2021. Why would Pence leave (besides the fact that he knows that Trump will be blaming him for not keeping Congress from recognizing Biden as the winner.)? Methinks that Pence knows that Trump will go even more crazy and doesn't want to be involved in any movement to set Trump aside temporarily (25th Amendment move) but also doesn't want to be involved in any discussions of treason (such as when, not if, Trump tried to stage a coup to hold onto power.)
When will this madman finally be stopped? I don't think we can wait until January 20, as I am certain Trump will stage a sit-in and probably stage a "swearing in" ceremony at the same time as Biden. No one in power wants to be the one to use force and kick him out (how I wish we could.) This man is a menace to society, and I do not pity him when he finally faces judgment, whether in this life or the next. Yes, I know he had a bad father. But so did so many people! He has had wealth and power and could have used them for the betterment of himself (on a spiritual level) and the world (by using his resources to help the country). He has not only failed miserably on both, but he has taken active measures to make the situation worse. He has made his choices, and I send light to anyone who will one day be in a position to hold him accountable and punish him accordingly so that others in his position will see his downfall and think twice before implementing their cruelty on the rest of us.
Well, this was something I didn't expect.
Representative Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) and others are suing to make Pence overturn the election.
Basically, the suit asks federal Judge Jeremy Kernodle, a Trump appointee, to declare that Pence has the “exclusive authority and sole discretion” to decide which electoral votes from a given state should be counted.
So, eh. Yeah?
At what point does a judge finally say "enough," and charge these clowns with contempt? Seriously, they lost at challenging the states, the electoral college, the Supreme Court, etc., and now they are trying to make Pence go against the will of the people and declare Trump (and by proxy, him) the winners of the 2020 vote?
Of course, it has zero chance of winning. But that isn't the point. At some point, someone needs to take a stand and slap these frivolous lawsuits with sanctions or even a few days in jail. There is absolutely no provision, law, past incident, etc. that suggests that Pence has any right to do this.
I am outraged as a lawyer. If I brought a case asking the local mayor to overturn the decision of a judge and/or jury, the judge overseeing the case would have me dragged in, suffer a verbal lashing, and then probably hung by my thumbs from the courtroom ceiling as a warning to other attorneys not to file frivolous lawsuits. So the fact that Trump and his Republican cronies are continuing to get away with this nonsense while ordinary citizens have been disciplined for far less makes my blood boil.
This judge will probably politely throw it out. Then the Republicans will take it for appeal, and eventually to the Supreme Court. Nothing will come of it, but it feels as though they get a free pass for outrageous behavior while the rest of us must follow the rules. I am so sick of it.
Will there ever be a time that these people are stopped from flooding our court with this nonsense? Will they ever face justice for it? Because by allowing this stuff to continue, they are inviting more frivolous lawsuits to flood the courts, and we are swamped as it is already. At some point, someone needs to take a stand and issue some sanctions for wasting court time.
And if Trump continues to try to steal the election (especially after January 6, 2021), then he needs to be charged with treason, shackled, and marched down the White House steps while the courts decide his fate. We risked our lives to vote during this pandemic to get rid of this man, and to see these traitors continue to flout the law is unthinkable. (yes, they are traitors, because anyone who actively tries to overturn the election and the will of the people are traitors after the Supreme Court has made it clear that the election is over).
*sigh* This will never stop, will it? Until Trump and his minions are all dead and gone, this constant barrage of attacks against our country and the values we hold dear will never stop. Which means it may be decades before we are finally safe from these people. This is depressing.
And if Trump continues to try to steal the election (especially after January 6, 2021), then he needs to be charged with treason, shackled, and marched down the White House steps while the courts decide his fate. We risked our lives to vote during this pandemic to get rid of this man, and to see these traitors continue to flout the law is unthinkable. (yes, they are traitors, because anyone who actively tries to overturn the election and the will of the people are traitors after the Supreme Court has made it clear that the election is over).
I would love to see Trump and his cronies in shackles and charged with treason too! Yes, I agree, well said Allyn! ?
Agreed. I am not a violent person however I have been saying since 2016 that unless and until ALL of the perpetrators against the US are dead and gone, I have little hope that "the light will prevail." And I am not limiting this to American criminals nor to the oldest generation. There is an entrenched oligarch class that thrives on the evangelical death cult, and so much of the populace is so miserable in their current reality that they are engaged in what amounts to an ARG to try to change it. This is a very hard weed to pull, and I doubt it can be without extreme will of force, which does not currently exist in the opposition.
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to stop in and say hi. I am fine but it occurred to me that my lack of posting was sudden and might cause concern. I am not here right now because I am completely unable to send light or pray for any of the people who have aided and abetted this evil, evil, disgusting man the last four years, or those who have supported him and still do. Worse, I don't want to. So I thought I should probably take a break until I can get my thoughts and heart back on a more forgiving path.
I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday season. Stay safe and well. ❤️
@polarberry .... I am not here right now...
pls remember,
wherever you go-
there you are!
hey @polarberry, @laura-f, @triciact
it's nice to see your names again