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(@tgraf66)
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/15/first-thing-kremlin-papers-appear-show-putin-plot-put-trump-power

I agree that a lot of this certainly seems plausible (and even likely), but I feel like I should caution against wholesale acceptance of this report at face value. The implication is that this report was leaked by someone in the Kremlin, packaged up all neat and tidy, tying up all of the loose ends of a potential international political scandal with lovely, pretty bow.

That ain't how the Kremlin works. Leaks of this nature, especially of this kind of somewhat explosive material, just don't happen. If this is being "leaked" it's for a reason, and frankly, as I said above, it's just too neatly packaged, and far too convenient that it happens at this point in time. I'm not suggesting there isn't any truth there, but I would be cautious about swallowing it hook, line, and sinker. I want to see what the US intelligence services have to say about it before I judge the full veracity of it.



   
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(@journeywithme2)
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@tgraf66  I agree100%



   
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(@tybin)
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Agree as well after seeing what some of the experts’ reaction was. I still believe he is beholden to Putin though and the psychological description of him is perfect 



   
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@ana First, I am so sorry for all of your losses recently. Like you said, you don't fear death, but it sure it hard to endure the loss of people and pets that we love and we miss them dearly.

That is a really interesting question you raised about people or pets who are needed on the other side or can't handle what is coming "checking out." Something about that resonates with me. I have no idea if that is what is happening, but I think it could be possible? I often wonder that about my mother, who passed in the spring of 2019. My sister, brother and I often talk about how glad (?) we were that she went before all the stuff with COVID. Not sure how she would have handled all of that. Maybe that is just us rationalizing and trying to understand our own grief (putting a 'purpose' on it...), but maybe it is a bit of both? Truth in her exit timing for both her own soul reasons and truth in our interpretation of the timing?



   
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(@ana)
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@cc21   I'm sorry for the loss of your mother.   One of my cousins who passed away did so in January 2020, just before COVID hit.  She was a very unhappy, somewhat unstable person, and I'm sure 2020 would have completely driven her over the edge.  (We all wished she would have accepted help for her problems but she refused.)  So for her it was likely a mercy that she transitioned when she did.  She was only 60.      

But my other family members were fairly happy people, doing well, and they'd gotten through the worst of 2020 when they passed.   I know there are more upheavals coming and it is my thought that if theire passing had anything to do with the unraveling/turning, it was because they are going to be helpers on the other side.   (Same for the cats!)

I'd  love to hear some more opinions and ideas about the concept as well as any other similar experiences.   



   
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@iridium Hi I don't buy into that idea at all, but on the off chance I am wrong, I would prefer to hang around to see how it evolves. Mind you I am saying that being in my 70's and not as a young person so not likely to be here when it is much worse.

Kind regards

 



   
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@ana 

Hi Ana, I just wanted to say how sorry I am for your many losses. My heart is with you. I will send lots of love and light to you. ? 

In reference to your question, I'm not sure, however I can tell you this story. My dearest friend Sue (who passed away in 2004 and was like a sister to me) was a psychic medium. She told me she used to do "work at night" helping people to cross over (sorta like an Angel of death I guess). She died in December 2004, but a week before she died she told me she was going to die. She told me she was needed to help a lot of people very shortly. I was angry she even said this, but she did pass away of a heart attack.  Shortly after she died, the Indonesian Tsunami hit and wiped out about 100K people. A light bulb went off and I knew now she was there for those people.

My friend always spoke of times that folks leave and transition and that there are reasons abound. Some leave because they only signed up for a certain time/lesson/etc. Whenever I would ask her questions about what things would transpire for me, she would answer some, but she sometimes  would say to me "It's your movie pumpkin".  I love and miss her all the time. ❤️ ? 



   
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Yogagirl,

I'm sorry; I don't have the link, but did you see that clip of Rand Paul at his televised town hall? Some woman called in and said,  "Hi Senator, I'm a proud Kentucky citizen and I'd just like to tell you to get f*cked!"

The look on his face. I was ? 



   
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I'm conflicted by this story: https://www.newsweek.com/matt-gaetz-marjorie-taylor-greene-interrupted-protesters-shouting-during-briefing-1613654  

On the one hand, it's always satisfying when the bullies get a dose of their own medicine.

On the other hand, it definitely flies in the face of "when they go low, we go high" and may in fact give Marjorie Three Names and "forehead guy" ammo with their shrinking but still loud base.



   
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@polarberry But the look on the girl’s face was priceless. You could see she was wondering what to do next! I watched it and couldn’t stop laughing. Even thinking of it now has me laughing out loud.



   
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