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(@lyndsayt)
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@laura-f luckily our state of CA is going to help women get here who need to get here. I think they are going to pay some of these fees associated. If you have any tips for an Underground Railroad I will be happy to join you. 



   
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(@lyndsayt)
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@bluebelle and anyone in this community that lives in a state hostile to abortion is welcome to my fold out couch in CA for as long as they may need it. I’ve even added a memory foam to make it more comfortable :)



   
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(@polarberry)
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@enkasongwriter 

I love this!! Do you mean that Thomas, Barrett and Kavanaugh will all be gone?

 

 



   
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(@polarberry)
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@laura-f 

Your post is terrifying but true. Did you all see what that anemic piece of puffed rice John Cornyn tweeted in response to Barack Obama's tweet about Roe? He said, "Now do Plessy vs. Ferguson/Brown vs. Board of Education." 😲 WTAF? He's trying to walk it back but yeah, good luck with that. Needless to say, the responses have been less than polite.

This is why they wanted the SC. Let's take the country back to the good old days when no one had a voice except rich powerful white men.

By the way, what is ACB doing there? Shouldn't she be home baking a blueberry pie, polishing her floors with Jubilee and cutting her husband's toenails?



   
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(@lovendures)
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I was thinking about that “other shoe “ which some here feel is about to drop.  And then I came across this …

Damn it!!

I didn’t even know this was being decided and now I am dreading waking up to anither SC news alert on Monday.

https://www.newswise.com/politics/gw-experts-available-supreme-court-ruling-on-west-virginia-v-epa/?article_id=773340



   
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(@april)
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@lovendures While I expect SCOTUS to rule against the EPA, I don’t expect that ruling to be as big of an impact. Why? Because of the current forever chemicals.

Let me explain.

Living in NC, we are currently dealing with PFAS chemicals (known as forever chemicals) in the groundwater.  This has pissed of many people affected by these forever chemicals and has pushed our red state legislature to create new environmentally protective laws to protect their constituents. Republican voters will not stand to be poisoned by a corporation putting toxic chemicals in their water supply. So politicians are reacting accordingly.

 

Biden’s head of the EPA came from the NC department of Environmental Quality. So he is use to working with Red politicians about environmental issues.

 

The reason I am being all this up. Any ruling that limits what pollution standards the EPA can set, will affect all pollution, not just CO2. Maybe I am just too close to this, but I feel that there will be a push by red voters to protect their drinking water. (Yes I know they ignored Detroit, but many PFAS chemicals are being found in groundwater used by rural red voters).

 

maybe I am just being optimistic on this one. I know that 8 years ago, NC tried to dismantle the NCDEQ. Then the major coal ash leak on the Dan river happened. That was when Republicans had a supermajority in NC and had just cut the department by 40%. They immediately began adding $, jobs, and new laws to protect water. Then PFAS was discovered. Same thing is currently happening. So I don’t take this idea as a major setback, just a minor bump in The road.



   
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(@laura-f)
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@polarberry 

As Kathy Griffin used to say "I don't Twat" - so I don't have Twitter, so thanks for sharing that.

This country was founded by religious fundamentalists with genocidal impulses who did not want to be told what to do, ever.

Here's an interesting take from The Atlantic (albeit it misses some points we are discussing here):

America is Two Countries

 

Also - for everyone else - @Lovendures @Bluebelle et al - I also have guest space for any woman who needs to come to CA for reproductive healthcare. @Lovendures - I think of your daughter in Texas and you-all in AZ - both very restrictive, so if she ever needs... let me know I'm right down the road.



   
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(@lovendures)
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@laura-f 

Thank  you for that offer Laura!  I know it is sincere .  

Would  you have ever imagined we would be having this discussion when we first found Jeanne’s site or when we would post recipes?



   
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(@laura-f)
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@lovendures 

I kinda did. Nov. 9 2016 I was visited with 2 waves: 1 of despair/depression (that is just lifting now) and 1 of visions of the future, which was what prompted me to seek out like-minded/spirited others.

As I have often said, NONE of this surprises me :-/



   
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(@enkasongwriter)
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@polarberry I am getting a yes to the three including Thomas. The Federalist Society will be investigated on and eventually fade into the fringes.



   
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