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(@michele-b)
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@deetoo

Absolutely,  deeper and deeper.

https://www.psychopathfree.com/articles/understanding-how-sociopaths-think-why-it-is-good-to-ask-why.278/

Hmmmmm, wonder who he will choose to write his next autobiography. Art of the Deal Redux of All Time ?



   
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Just a question, if he thinks he is the chosen one do you think he believes himself to be Jesus' brother?  He now wants to change the Constitution by executive order.  How dumb can he be?  I realize this is all a stall tactic.  He knows if he is booted out of office he will be arrested by the State of NY for al knd of criminal charges.  I truly believe he thinks he is being smart and authoritative not realizing he is being seen as demented by anyone who is the least bit sane! 



   
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Newsweek had written an article about Trump mental state. The psychiatrist who already sounded the alarm in 2017 now says

He told MSNBC that Trump had "a fundamental need to be all-powerful and all loved and can't stand challenges."

"He can't stand anything that disagrees with him, and the more you challenge him, the more unhinged he becomes, the more paranoid, and the more violent, potentially," Dodes said

He doesn't really love anyone except himself. That's not a slur, that's a psychological fact. People like him are about him. If he's not useful to him, he stops loving him. That's part of the essential emptiness of Donald Trump. He doesn't have real relationships with people." (Something his followers don’t see)

There's something fundamentally different about him from normal people. It's a psychotic-like state. The more you press him, the more you see how disorganized and empty he is. The more he flies into a disorganized rage.

"He thinks of himself as a dictator, and it's all him and no one else really matters," Dodes told MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/trump-mental-illness-king-israel-msnbc-1455644%3famp=1

 



   
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@michele-b-here-in-the-forum

Not only was it funny him suggesting he was interested in buying Greenland but also thinking that master of the art of the deal can actually talk Denmark into selling it. He got his feeling hurt when they said no. Just like a child he cancelled his trip there. Is that all you have to do to get him to not visit. 



   
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Pssst .....

Who's going to be the one to tell him that Buckingham Palace isn't for sale either?

Cuz I sure ain't going to be the one to tell him....

M. Mulvaney - Sept 2019



   
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I don't think Trump believes he is the chosen one. I think he believes people are stupid and easily fooled and he's fooled them. He's a malignant narcissist who can't stand any kind of criticism or any view that is not his own, but that's not the same as him believing he's the son of god or Jesus' brother.  

He believes he is very special and can get away with anything and has total entitlement to anything he wants.  He is a megalomaniac and a narcissist, and has a number of personality pathologies. 

But I don't think he believes in God or Jesus.  I don't think he's religious or spiritual.  

He's a hedonist and a narcissist, and if he ever thinks about spiritual matters, I feel he's say he's an atheist.  



   
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@deetoo

I dont think this "chosen one" move is derived from his insanity. If he had just said it, maybe, but by looking to the "heavens" when saying it, Im convinced it is calculated. It probably was a move suggested by someone else(Pence, Miller) but no way does a godless narcissistic man looks upward making that statement unless its thought out. That is admitting there is something out there greater than he, and Trump wpuld never admit that unless it was part of a plan.



   
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Chiming in to say i’m not sure id call the occupant of the oval office smart in any sense. 

He's a narcissist and likely has antisocial personality disorder. That means highly skilled  manipulation. Our entire country is feeling that manipulation. Its confusing and scary, and its supposed to be, with these types of people. He only thinks about himself and acts on impulse. His worst fear is others seeing his “true self”. It is all a mirror to prop up his very fragile ego. Its a miserable way to live, but textbook NPD. He does not play chess or think long term politically. He just “does”. If you know about or have spent time around people with these PD’s, it becomes all that more clear. Its not just twitter talk or something you read in an op-ed, once you see people with these personality disorders—- you get it. It is him. And its serious. There isn't too much thought or well thought out planning.

Someone called him the king  of israel and he’s embellishing it in his head because it makes him feel special . He wants to be a king so badly, he loves it. The “chosen one” is just him relishing in his own delusions of grandeur on national television. Do i think he actually believes hes the chosen one? Probably not in the way we mean it. He probably doesnt think hes a biblical entity- he does not care about god or religion, or spirituality. He cares about himself. Anything that comes to him- people, opinions, things, jobs- it is all a means to an end to satisfy his ego. He just likes the way “chosen one” sounds. And yes, he does believe he is that important, he believes he and only he can save america (not that he cares a shred about america or its people apart from what they can provide him) and he wants to act and think like he is above everybody. With NPD. Its a combination of believing youre above everyone, while also deep down having the opposite of that be your biggest fear- its based on extreme insecurity and a desire to bury that as drastically as possible.

I also believe he likes messing with people. He likes the drama of saying it, and is probably aware of how media will react. Thats the manipulation i was talking about. But a genius? No. Did he plan it out? Maybe but probably not. Did he look up to the sky to mock it in some sadistic way because he knew it would drive people crazy? That could also be. I think he likes the way it sounds. He does believe he is he chosen one .. just not in the ways we’d think. He does believe he is that special though.

furthermore, im 98% sure he has dementia. Maybe 2nd or 3rd stage. He is not well. It has been well documented that many doctors and psychiatrists all believe this to be the case, and warn how dire it is. Im a mental health professional, there is no question about it for me. His father also had Alzheimer's. I would suggest reading up on it. People make jokes and make fun of him for this, but i think its actually the most alarming aspect of the presidency right now. 



   
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Really interesting thread going about T's mental state.  We've never encountered anything like this before, and it's scary as hell.  I agree with sagetarotpisces' observation that T believes he is the "chosen one", but not in the way that we mean it. He's probably been basking in that thought ever since his evangelical base has been claiming it, which really began when he announced he was running.  But I also believe that something else is going on with him.  It could very well be Alzheimer's, but we wouldn't know for sure without a thorough neuropsychological evaluation.  My mother passed away from Alzheimer’s, and she had such an extensive test at Johns Hopkins in the early stages of her disease.  I know that over a year ago T had that simple, 10-minute cognitive screening which purportedly ruled out full-blown dementia, but not early stage.  It’s now more than a year later and he’s gotten worse with his disordered speech and deteriorating language skills, among other things.

I am curious about how NPD originates.  Is it genetic?  A result of  trauma?  Or a combination of factors?



   
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The 38 most bizarre lines from Donald Trump's wild impromptu news conference. 

My favorite is the bit about Greenland..

6. "Denmark, I looked forward to going, but I thought that the Prime Minister's statement -- that it was absurd; that it was an absurd idea -- it was nasty. I thought it was an inappropriate statement. All she had to do is say, 'No, we wouldn't be interested.'"
OK, so. Trump wanted to buy Greenland, which is owned by Denmark. The Danes said no. But it was the way they said "no" that pissed Trump off. Everyone knows "absurd" is fighting words, right? RIGHT?
 
And my second favorite is. 
 
3. "[Fed Chair Jerome Powell] raised interest rates too fast, too furious."
"I live my life a quarter-mile at a time." -- Dominic Toretto/Vin Diesel
 
This would be hysterical if this was a president in another county but alas he is our one and it’s just sad
 
 
 


   
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