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@laura-f, before Drumpf made his visit to El Paso, someone from NPR interviewed the baby's uncle, Tito Anchondo.  Tito said that his family has always been Republican conservatives.  He understood why many people are reacting negatively to T., stating that "And yes, maybe he [T*] said things in bad taste. But I think people are misconstruing President T*'s ideas."

Tito said that his brother was very supportive of Drumpf.

"I want to see his reaction in person," Tito said. "I want to see if he's genuine and see if my political views are right or wrong. And see if he feels maybe some kind of remorse for statements that he's made. I just want to have a human-to-human talk with him and see how he feels."

Yes -- we all see how Drumpf feels by the shameless photo-op.  



   
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@deetoo

Wow.  I wonder if he still supports him?  He still might.  It is difficult to admit you have been drinking the Kool-Aid.

You know, now that I think about it, how in the world did Kool-Aid survive after Jim Jones?  How is it still in existence?  



   
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@lovendures

Yeah, talk about a PR nightmare!



   
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@lovendures, I don't know if he still supports him, and I'd rather not know. I heard the interview, and Tito sounded like a very measured, thoughtful, caring guy.  It's baffling.  This is no longer the welcoming, immigrant-friendly party of Dubya.  

About a year ago my husband played in a jazz trio with a guy from South America.  He couldn't understand any Latinos supporting T****.  He believed that many who do feel resentful about the Hispanics entering illegally, when they themselves went through  proper legal channels.  He also believed that some of it is a macho thing.  The way some people, men and women, still define strength in a man is a crazy headscratcher to me.  

It seems that, in general, Repubs fall in line.  They are party-loyal, no matter what.  But I am happy that some Rs have left the party and become Independents.  That's why, when they conduct polls and it states that approximately 80-90% of Rs support him, I'm not too surprised.  What's left is no longer the old Republican party. 

And as far as Kool-Aid is concerned:  as long as people drink the Kool-Aid, they'll still be making it.

 



   
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@deetoo

As a hispanic it is true about hispanic peope being resentful about illegal immigrants coming here when they themselves most likely came here illegally. I dont understand why but it is very true. My ex-husband apparently voted for the Turd. His wife could not understand why but he did. The best part is that he too came thru the Rio Grande and thru the Arizona Desert. He is only a US Citizen because I helped him when it was possible to fix your status here about 21 years ago. He was lucky.

It works both way for hispanic immigrants. They are either to good for the ones that have illegal status and then you got the ones who are resentful to the ones that are green card holders or citizens. 



   
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I'm hispanic, and can say that hispanics are a diverse group of people who (sometimes) share a common language but often little else.  Different nationalities tend to dislike others. There's racism within hispanic culture, as well as colorism. All the problems, prejudices and dumbassery that exists in the larger American culture exists among hispanics. There are those who want acceptance into the larger culture and will identify with the oppressor in order to get it, or a chance at it. It would be great if all hispanics saw poor people fleeing oppression and thought there but for the grace of God go I, but that's not how it works, sad to say. It's so much more complicated.



   
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The discussion is drifting...

BUT I will add that my hubby used to have a colleague/friend, who was born here in the US to immigrant parents from Vietnam. He served honorably as an Army Ranger/Airborne, and is a combat veteran. He is only in his mid-thirties. Over the years he has become very anti-immigrant and MAGA hat wearing. I don't understand it.



   
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Comedy break -- Randy Rainbow on Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-LTRwZb35A



   
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An anecdote that sums up how scary religion can be in the wrong hands...

Trump can conspire with Russia to steal an election, create intense division in the country, dehumanize minorities, sleep with pornstars while his wife is home with a baby, hang around with pedophiles, cage and torture children, and thats fine with Evangelicals. The one thing he cant do? Say the word "goddamn." Evangelicals are now calling their representatives over Trump saying it twice during a rally. Even God has to be out there somewhere, head in hands saying "damn!"



   
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This is an actual billboard put up by a Christian group. It was eventually taken down but put up again in Maryland.

friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/11/05/pre-election-billboard-ads-portray-donald-trump-as-second-coming-of-jesus/

 



   
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