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 shan
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@deetoo

Yes, that is it! Thank you. Mark Zaid, and the other attorneys on the team, apparently are the best in their field in representing intelligence professionals in D.C. Mark also said there is no limit to the number of whistleblowers they can represent. He endorsed this GoFundMe account as legitimate. Follow Mark Zaid’s updates on Twitter here:  https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq



   
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@lynnventura

I hear you on taking a nap.  I think I've been depressed for the last two years and because of Trump.

he is destroying our democracy and what he has done so far, he's gotten away with.  anyone else would have been impeached in a heartbeat. 

The only reason he's been untouchable, is because he is Trump.  He has a speciality, lie, deny, deflect, and tell a BS story.  what is really keeping him in the WH?  because he has enablers and WH aids that have and are still helping cover his tracks.  it's really disturbing.

what we need to ensure that he is impeached are solid evidence and solid witnesses that can't be shred apart with 'whataboutism' BS rhetoric

There is a second witness waiting or waffling in the wings on whether he should come forward or not.

people are really scared and fear for their lives.  Trump is dangerous

If there are no more witnesses or the number #2 possible witness decides not to come forward, then I think we're screwed.

it's them against us.  it's 50/50 chance of Trump staying in office

I do sincerely think that many of you here are very gifted with past predictions, I certainly have hope that you folks are right with Trump being ousted.

I don't care if he is impeached or loses the election in 2020.  I have always felt he would be a one term President.  my clue was a vision of Jimmy Carter during one of my meditations.

 

keeping my fingers crossed.  MayberryStars

 

 

 

 



   
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@shanrip

I just donated to the whistleblowers account.



   
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Night before last, I dreamt Trump was a Betta fish being abruptly transferred away in a small plastic container (like a flat pencil box?!) from his fish tank along with one goldfish, then two other goldfish.  I commented to those around me that it was now very likely the fish would soon begin killing one another in reaction to being singled out and so closely confined.  In moments, the Trump/Betta had become drained of his blue color and was noticeably weakening (although I was aware his bite could still be razor-sharp).  Trump/Betta began showing off by pretending he was steering a ship, looking just as he did when he got in the driver's seat of a Mack 18-wheeler parked on the WH front lawn, doing his blustery version of emulating a truck driver by pumping his fists, scrunching up his face to appear "tough," baring his teeth, and tooting the big rig's horn (in my dream seeing a very small fish doing such a charade was perfectly plausible!).  Then, very quickly, it was clear the four fish were receiving no oxygen and they began fiercely banging their heads against the walls of the box to break free, only to end up thrashing in a small puddle on the floor and gasping their dying breaths.  One of the fish had to be Guiliani, another was likely pompous Pompeo?!  While still in the dream, I sensed how very, very small Trump/Betta fish and the three others were in the bigger picture of life, and how minutely brief and ultimately inconsequential their impact had been.

Last night, I dreamt of Joe Biden and his son Hunter and saw the genuine affection and close bond they have for one another.  Hunter had 65 legs (perfectly normal in this dream!)--perhaps meaning that legal-wise he has many legs to stand on...In the dream I felt he'd done nothing illegal or even unethical, and as I did the math I calculated that the large sums he earned were actually no greater than so many others engaged in global business (e.g., Trump's three oldest).

Two odd dreams with odd informed-by-the-news metaphors...I look forward to getting back to my more typical/preferred dreams of traveling to fascinating places on Earth!



   
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@deetoo

I don't know if he will be impeached, but I know the House will impeach him. They already have all the evidence they need.

As far as the WH ignoring subpoenas, which they will, there will be no court battle. The refusal is simply added to the articles of impeachment as further proof that they have done something wrong and are attempting to cover it up.

Someone said on TV the other night - and I believe this is true - it's not what they've done, it's what they've done to cover it up.



   
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@suspira44, I agree that the House will impeach.  The Senate won't have enough votes to convict.  The disgusting thing is, I heard that if they were allowed to vote anonymously, there are around 20 Republican senators who would vote "yes."  So even though conviction is a long shot, I believe it's important to get their vote on the record.

Yep, the cover up:  that's what really cooked Nixon's goose.

This morning I heard that legally Pence has fewer protections/safeguards than does Turnip.  I also heard someone say that P. could be found criminally liable through his involvement in this Ukraine mess.  I don't know if that's accurate; perhaps a lawyer on our site could confirm that.

Regarding the entire motley crew of thugs, cowards and criminals:  one of my favorite contributors on MSNBC, Maya Wiley, said "not only will they be under the bus, but the bus will roll over them more than once."

 

 



   
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This thread might be better titled "Trump Unraveling Over the Situation" at this point.

Further evidence of case in point continues.

Washington Post, 2 hours ago after Trump's continuing saga of tweets as he surges from internal combustion mode to external nuclear reactor about to blow from over heating .

"Trump uses vulgarity, calls for Romney’s impeachment after senator criticizes president’s China, Ukraine appeals - The Washington Post"

Now, he wants Mitt Romney inpeached. Of course you cannot even impeach a US. Senator.

Trump is simply a "dead man walking" time bomb of his own demise. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-takes-vulgar-swipe-at-romney-after-senator-criticizes-presidents-china-ukraine-appeals/2019/10/05/e9e6cde8-e77d-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html



   
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As far as doing a reading on what will happen, I am saving myself for a small group reading next week. 

My last reading of Trump was that he ends before 2021.

As for whether they will impeach (using the legal term for impeachment here which is only something that happens in the House and does not remove him, it is most likely that he will indeed be impeached but not removed.

It's hard to figure out a situation in which Pelosi would not have the votes.  They only need a simple majority to impeach.  They have ample evidence.  He's already impeached himself with the China caper, and although it may fool the Fox viewers, it doesn't fool the democrats. And the dems are in charge of the House.  But there is always the chance there is something we are missing, so I will wait to see what I get next week. 

It's highly unlikely the Senate will come even close to removing him. Many of them are sick of him, even Fox is starting to wobble about him, but Moscow Mitch blocks all votes that might hurt Putin's puppet. 

Some people don't want to get their hopes up.  I agree with that, but there is a difference between pinning too much hope on one specific outcome, and discouraging yourself with pessimism. Here's what you can do -- 

Find out what you know  in your heart is true. Put your hope in that. 

Here is what I know is true and where my hope lies:

  • I know that Donald Trump will go down in history as the worst mistake that ever happened  to this country.  
  • I know that once he is gone, the public will swing in the other direction.
  • I know that the white conservative boomers are aging out and the next generation coming up is very liberal. 
  • I know that the Republican Party will never live down their support of this monster nor the fact that they expedited global warming after we first learned about it  I the 1970's because of their monstrous greed.  They cost us dearly, incalculably, and Greta Thungren was right that the public will not forgive them.  
  • I know that the Republican Party will die out as the second biggest party in America, by the end of the 20's, say to under 5%.  

I do not pin my hopes on when T will go down.  I just know he will. Just like I know that those who carry on after us will treat this earth like the precious mother she is.  And I also know that we are going into a matriarchal age, where women will lead. 

 

 

 



   
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Food for thought:

@TomJChicago
"The collision of Trump’s worsening Frontotemporal dementia symptoms & the stunning exposure of his criminality is creating a spectacular eruption. It's fueled by his own delusion of grandeur that he must be his own spokesman bc “nobody does it better” when talking to the media. Trump’s mind is fragmenting. His word finding continues to degrade to the point where rarely uses a complete sentence".
 
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@jeannemayrell I totally agree with your last post. Thank you.
 
I feel Tom's comments are accurate.
 
Also:
 
T will not be the GOP candidate in 2020. The current propping up of him and the GOP and his family enabling is pure fantasy.
 
T's numbers are plummeting. When they hit 30%, there will be 20 GOP Senators who will jump ship.
 
I have seen a stop sign for T in Nov. His current movement forward will end politically. Before the end of the year, we will also see his health failing. It has been for a long time. I see him trying to walk across a bridge to escape. As he looks ahead, the bridge on fire.
 
And a personal disclosure note:
 
I've meet T and also hung out with Ivana socially. Ivana and I met on a TV commercial. We used to dance together at a club in NYC, where I live.
 
T is he evil. Mostly very insecure and greedy. And his family is especially greedy.  No true self-esteem to be found.
 
A genius? Absolutely not. He wasn't all there back when we met. I was very struck by the confusion I felt going on in him. He look bewildered. He knew he was fading.
 
I also have two close friends who worked with him on The Apprentice.

As far as Uranus, it changes signs every 7 years. Uranus is change. It's neither good or bad, it's represents the future and brilliance.  It rules the sign of Aquarius.... "Age of Aquarius". A new dawning and order is coming, which is fantastic. 

 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

Beautifully and perfectly expressed. That pretty much sums it all, every single bit of it and him up.

I am bringing out my Halloween broom and sweeping the last of any personal emotional attachment to his and the Republican parties participation in this entire pathetic yet historical farce of a national tragedy into the dustbin of hard lessons learned and already looking ahead as you as have so eloquently expressed. 

It all makes me very sad that we had to lose so much good in our lives and our world because of so much bad.

I will forever mourn the loss of nature and beauty in this world as well as the enormous cost in human destruction because of evil greed and corruption for the sake of power.

That part breaks my already overly sensitive and hurting heart. But we will, or others better than us will, indeed survive and be better and do better with this world than we have. 



   
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@lawrence

Thank you for adding those personal and even more interesting elements. I do so dearly love the phenomenally diverse and talented people we are so fortunate to have as members here.

Oh how it (and you) enrich us all! 



   
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@lawrence

are you an astrologer?  I would appreciate it if you would send me info on the signs changing every 7 years I don't believe true.

each planet and NOT signs are different.  besides Uranus rules the sign of Aquarius?  it's ruling planet can be about truth but mostly it represents constant change and some good and not so good.

 

it's been especially crazy and weird these last several years.  take a look at to what happened.  we all were expecting Hillary to win and wow look at Trump.  totally unexpected, and even he was surprised.

Uranus represents the Tower card in the Tarot deck.. maybe you don't use the tarot or have no use for it.

its about the unexpected.  what you thought was - isn't..  what you were counting on fell through.. if you thought your husband wasn't cheating, he most likely was..

sometimes we don't want to hear the truth and we can block it out, BUT the Tower/Uranus card will show you while the truth can hurt you, it won't kill you.

Trumps' gotta go..

 



   
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What I know in my heart is that I love the people on this site. You all keep me informed, sane, and feeling supported. The kindness, perceptiveness, humor and good will from all of you is a precious gift. One day (soon, I hope) the world will be less crazy, and maybe we'll revert back to some sense of normalcy. This is my sincere wish for all of us. In the meantime, I am so grateful to Jeanne for providing this forum and for everyone who contributes to it. xoxo



   
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@mayberrystars 

Yes, I'm an astrologer too. I also teach the tarot to students.

Uranus changes every seven years. Yes, it represents the unexpected and the Tower in the tarot. ...but that is very basic, beginner information about Uranus.

You are not grasping it's true essence. 

I suggest you study it for yourself. One internet search will show you it stays in a sign for seven years. 

My partner of 40 years is a well-known and financially successful astrologer. A lot of people here probably follow him on YouTube. We have just returned from an international astrology conference in Oxford, England.

 



   
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@lawrence

I was not asking you. to. teach. me. or anyone else.

You're telling me I am not grasping the true essence is quite stunning

was the one that suggested that each planet is different.  Not all planets change

every 7 years.  some are much faster, such as Mercury, Mars, and Venus.

 

no need to reply, I'm done with this convo

 

you have yourself a great week Lawrence

 

 



   
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@mayberrystars

Yes, all the planets change in different amounts of time. I don't mean any disrespect. 

I'm finished discussing this. 



   
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@broadbean

Thank you, I hope you will stick around and join in the conversation whenever you feel like it. 



   
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@mayberrystars

I'm also an astrologer and a longtime tarot practitioner. I've been pretty busy for the last several weeks and have only been able to poke in and read this thread here and there, but I think I did catch where you'd said, some days back, that you believed Trump's story—that he has never been a drinker or used drugs of any kind—and may even have disagreed that there's an association between the Seven of Cups (Neptune) and substance use (please forgive me if I'm mistaken).

I was surprised. Not just because Trump is a known liar. But because his use of stimulants (illicit and prescribed) is well known. But more so: Neptune in its lowest vibration (all planetary energies represent an energetic scale) is the god of mists, illusions, delusions—maya. And maya is a realm of attachment and addiction. Drunken debauchery, laudanum ladies, the crack epidemic, the opiate epidemic—all of it. Of course, when we awaken in the dream and choose to stand in the truth, whatever the truth may be, Neptune bestows its highest vibration to us like a gift: lucid dreams, visions, intuition. 

Since you seemed unfamiliar with the lower vibration of Neptune I've just described, it surprises me that in this current convo, you seem a bit more keen on the lower vibration of Uranus. You're right; it's a Tower, a shock, a total upending of the conventional order of things. But @Lawrence is also right: Uranus is innovation, brilliance, electricity—the Future. And we need to integrate all of those things in order to bring the highest of those things forward.

Fear and dark perspective-taking will deliver as ordered. But more powerful than that are optimism, clarity, and wisdom. So, I choose the latter. And I know the beautiful people who make up this community do too; it's why they are so often accurate in their predictions. ...And why they are a fundamental part of the necessary change we are helping to create in the collective as we speak.   

And that is also Uranus. 

 



   
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Regarding the Unraveled Occupier.

 I recently  became aware of just how many people might be holding little or no hope that the age of Trump will end any time soon.  When I mention to these people  that this nightmare will NOT continue for years, how I believe it will be over soon and that he will not be president until the end of his term it is as though a light is turned on in their world. A light of hope is turned back on.  

This community has been my hope.  It has shed rays of hope through very dark times, on countless occasions. I know in my heart, in my soul he will be gone soon and that we will live in a better world, eventually a much better world.

If you have felt that hope and hold that light, please share it with others who are struggling to feel and see what you do.  We are fortunate to help each other rise up here.  Help guide them to feel your hope.

Again, I am going back to love.  Why love?  Well, today as I was in the parking lot of my grocery store I noticed how happy I was.  I thought this is weird, what made me so happy?  I realized it was because I had been thinking about all the wonderful people my children had in their lives growing up.  The friends who stood by them through adversity, the adults who encouraged and supported them.  The more I thought about the loving people and positive situations which surrounded my children over the years, the more the challenging and difficult times faded from my mind.  The light far outshone the dark.  My heart was filled with love and I was happy because I was filling my being with  beautiful and loving memories.  I was also sending thoughts of love and gratitude to this beautiful souls which also filled my being with love and happiness.  

So my point here is this (I think).  Continue to be these points of light for yourself and for others.  Just a little light can fill a darkened room.  A little hope can calm a troubled soul.  This community  has provided us shelter from many storms, if you can, provide some for those who are drenched, weary exhausted and in need of hope. 

We are close.  Know that.  When you feel it too, help others feel it.

Imagine the beauty of a dark night sky as lights start popping up over the distant horizon.  imagine the sun rising over a darkened mountain top, spreading it's warm rays over a quiet world.

Be a light.  Be a ray.  Heck, be a solar panel and take in some light  rays and then spread that light energy to others.  

Yes, go forth and be a mighty solar panel!  Ha Ha.  Oh  the image of that makes me smile.  haha

 

 

 



   
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@lovendures

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