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I don't have the link, but (Bill) Clinton has released a statement about Epstein.



   
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Here is Bill Clinton statement https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1679345001



   
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Well I'd rather read some predictions than my own opinion, and you can delete this if you want. But we really don't know, except for a couple of people who have been mentioned - Prince Andrew and Dershowitz - who actually participated in all of this.  What upsets me is that people knew and let it go on. There isn't a doubt in my mind that Trump knew; hence the younger woman remark. Now other people I'm sure heard rumors but that doesn't mean they actually witnessed anything. I think the fact that Bill Clinton had Secret Service protection and his trips were documented means something. Of course that's just me.  And I don't understand this emphasis on Bill Clinton. He hasn't been president in a long time and they tried to impeach him. What about the current President's Cabinet member who saw to it this man got a sweetheart deal?



   
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That person who gave him the sweetheart deal needs to be fired and investigated.  Did any of them think of those poor girls?  Also people took donations from Epstein knowing the type of person he was.   

I hope those girls get real justice this time.  



   
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This probably deserves its own thread at this point, but if we ask ourselves why Epstein was given such a sweetheart deal by Alex Acosta when he was US attorney in Miami in 2009, what occurs to me is who was the attorney general at that time.  That person would have had to be involved in such a high level gift to a criminal. The AG was Michael Mukasey, who is originally from NYC. I wonder if there isn't some sort of involvement on his part, or an attempt to try to protect someone else. The sweetheart deal happened under the Bush administration's department of justice. I'd look there for answers. 



   
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What I really liked hearing is that this arrest came as a total surprise to Epstein and his cohorts.  When you consider how difficult it is to hide anything these days, this is a major feat. 

Interestingly the Epstein case is being investigated by the SDNY public corruptions unit, not the group that investigates human trafficking.  The public corruptions unit investigates crimes of bribery, embezzlement, and frauds committed against local, state, and federal government agencies.  I’ve read that given the allegations that Epstein had co-conspirators in high places, the fact that this particular unit is investigating could be potentially meaningful.  Some former and current prosecutors are also speculating this could mean that other charges are possible, like money laundering, public corruption, or tax-related charges.  .

I’ve also read that Attorney General Barr recused himself from the Epstein case.  His reason is that long ago he worked for the law firm, Kirkland and Ellis, that once represented Epstein.  It’s also worth noting that Acosta, our current Labor Secretary who gave Epstein that sweetheart deal, once worked for K&E.  Our current Deputy AG, Jeffrey Rosen, also worked for them as well.  So why didn't Rosen also recuse himself?

Another interesting Barr connection to Epstein:  Barr’s father, who was headmaster at the prestigious Dalton School in Manhattan, once hired Epstein, with no college degree, to teach teenagers calculus and physics at the school.  So some legal experts are speculating that Barr might have had to recuse himself because of this if there was a possibility that the Epstein prosecution could lead to disclosures that would harm his father’s reputation.  



   
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Gee Louise people this is like connect-the-dots of high ranking corruption!   These men think they are untouchable.  They do what they please because it makes them feel powerful.  Those girls weren't even human to them.  The defense is they were prostitutes.  Well the question is how did they get to be prostitues and who recruited them.   From what I've read Epsteins "girlfriend" was a procurer and she recruited other "models" to help "nurtur these girls.  This whole thing is just sick.



   
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This feels like it will bring down a lot of people, and Trump is in it.  According to one report, one girl was recruited at Mar a Lago, where her father worked. Her father dropped her off at Epstein's unwittingly thinking this would be a good opportunity for his daughter though not realizing what Epstein had in mind. One wonders if Trump knew about it.  

The famous much quoted Trump remark about Epstein that he was fun, and that he liked younger women more than Trump liked, is suspiciously defensive - as if Trump is trying to cover up that he tried out some of these young girls. 

It's becoming increasingly obvious that some of  Trump's cabinet appointments are people whose appointments are designed to protect him from his crimes - like Treasury Secretary Mnuchin who keeps his tax returns from being shared with Congress, Elaine Chen,  his Transportation Secretary whose marriage to McConnell has protected Trump in the Senate, Betsey Devos whose brother  Erik Prince, could be handy for Trump, and now Acosta, his Labor Secretary, who protected Epstein in 2008.  

It all reminds me of the vision I had right before the election  about the Greek myth of Hades and the rape of Percephone.  The ancients send us messages about our world through their myths.  This one is a key to how we will get our world back.  In Alabama, the mothers across the political divide  turned against Roy Moore for abusing the Percephones of Alabama.  

If Trump gets implicated enough in the Epstein prosecutions, his goose is cooked.  



   
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Jeanne, you could not be more right when you say that everyone in Twitler's cabinet is there for either payback or protection.  The entire administration is a slimy connected chain of corruption.  If one falls they all do.

Years ago, when Epstein was asked during a deposition if he had ever partied with Twitler in the presence of underage girls, he pled the 5th.  

This will all come to light and it's not going to be pretty.  And I read this morning that the CEO of Home Depot will donate a huge sum to his re-election campaign, and some wingnut wants a "Book of Trump" added to the Bible.  These people are sick, sick, sick.



   
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This from MSNBC - One of Acosta's roles, as Labor Secretary, is to oversee human trafficking.  What a coincidence....right!!??

 



   
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