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(@turtle26)
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@allyn he looked and sounded terrible. Very flat and yes - his voice sounded off. He's still so obviously in denial - a travel ban isn't going to work for something that is already spreading so rapidly here.......

 



   
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(@mas1581)
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Trump had to acknowledge it. Major corporations are suspending g all business travel domestic and intl, the NBA has 2 teams quarantined at the arena and suspended its season, the NCAA basketball tournament will be played in locked stadiums with no fans, and Tom.Hanks just came out publically and said he tested positive. He couldn't deny it anymore, even though some of his minions are still calling it a hoax on social media



   
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He made  no mention of a health care response. People still can’t get tests. His words were empty and he was lying about all the things that they were going to do to make it easier on workers. 

What is the plan for health care? There is not going to be enough hospital capacity and there is  virtually no testing in this country unless you're practically dying or you are a VIP.

 China built a 1000 person hospital in Wuhan. I doubt there are any plans in the federal government for meeting the capacity that will be necessary to take care of all those Americans who are running around untested infecting everybody else.

They could take it over for example  cruise ships, clean them up and turn them into hospitals for people who are sick with the virus.  

What I saw back in 2014 and 2015 for this year and the following years was people walking away from the federal government and Turning their reliance towards state and local government. Now I can see even more of a reason why this will happen.  



   
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 lynn
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@jeanne-mayell 

The reliance on state governments is already happening. Wash State and NY governors are acting like you would expect a president to act. Mayors too. The Fed Gov't, run by trump and enabled by his gop minions, has no credibility.

trump didn't look sick to me, he looked like a bored child being forced to eat his vegetables. 

 



   
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Something isn’t right about this - follow the money - always.....he took actions to further tank the markets....

https://twitter.com/hc_richardson/status/1237939131566772225?s=21



   
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I seem to remember that in recent years that they have closed several army bases. Maybe they could use these for the sick.



   
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 Baba
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It is very suspicious that Trump signed agreements with Russia that the American people know nothing about that are suddenly being implemented in the middle of a crisis. Add to that the travel ban for Europe which excludes the UK and it sounds to me like this is one of the things that Putin wanted to cause chaos and trouble between the US and it’s allies. What I can’t understand is how the oil war that Russia started with Saudi Arabia which is meant to hurt US producers fits in with this. It sounds to me like the president is acting against the interests of his own people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/europe-blindsided-by-trumps-travel-restrictions-with-many-seeing-political-motive/2020/03/12/42a279d0-6412-11ea-8a8e-5c5336b32760_story.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8093131/Treasury-secretary-Steve-Mnuchin-quietly-meets-RUSSIAS-ambassador-markets-plunge.html



   
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@jeanne-mayell

I've been thinking about your prediction concerning people turning away from the Federal Gov't for the last two weeks. 

Had a dream about T last night. He was asking a group of people including myself to play stupid games with him. Like a child trying to entertain himself. Completely devoid of reality. 

 

 



   
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 Baba
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As I was doing my full moon meditation a few days ago, I had a strange vision. It was especially strange as I was sending light to all of those who are being affected by the virus and especially to the children being held by the government in facilities. I asked if there was anything that I needed to know and got the following:

Black decoration on the WH (black bows?) and Melania T dressed in a black A-line dress (it looked like lace of some kind) wearing a long black veil. She feels like she is fashion-channeling Jackie O. Time period: May? She is smiling which seems incongruous to the situation.

I have been hesitating to post this because I don’t know what it means. I don’t know if it means general mourning for those lost in the pandemic or something or someone more specific. I really don’t know. It was just a striking and strange thing to get while meditating. 



   
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@baba

I agree ... reading Heather Cox Richardson this am: " Two days ago, I missed altogether something else that bears watching, and the fact that I missed it suggests it was barely covered—I’m generally all over the news. On March 9, 2020, the Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Anatoly Antonov met Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin and, according to the press release from the Russians, discussed “implementation of the arrangements reached by Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump during the summits in Helsinki in 2018 and Osaka in 2019.” There was virtually no coverage of this meeting in the United States; the only record I found was a readout from the Treasury Department, saying just that the meeting had happened. The Helsinki meeting is the one where Trump and Putin met for two hours alone with only their interpreters in the room. The Osaka meeting came just after Putin declared western liberalism obsolete. "

Definitely a cause for concern. Also, Trump read off like a puppet the lines Jared Kushner wrote for him..again he was sniffing and having audible breathing noises and speech impediments and none of his usual bluster or hand waving.... he looked sedated to me. Putin's Puppet indeed. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/jared-kushner-now-on-trumps-coronavirus-team-report.html

Trump has ALWAYS been about himself  and put his interests over those of anyone else.

There are currently 31 cases of Covid-19 all within a 12 county section of my state with over half of them clustered in a 4 county area... one of which is my county. Without firm leadership at the helm this is only going to get worse before it gets better.

 



   
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 Baba
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I’m from the same state originally and have family that I have been trying to encourage to take this seriously with limited success. There is only so much you can do to counteract the deleterious effects of Fox News. 



   
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@lynnventura

I noticed that a in the past week as well. I was both amazed and delight. This is actually something we discussed here and predicted three years ago when we were also talking about the importance of self and community reliance with personal or community gardens. That it would be more about individuals and states and less about federal government  

The reliance on state governments is already happening. Wash State and NY governors are acting like you would expect a president to act. Mayors too. The Fed Gov't, run by trump and enabled by his gop minions, has no credibility.

 



   
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Posted by: @baba

I’m from the same state originally and have family that I have been trying to encourage to take this seriously with limited success. There is only so much you can do to counteract the deleterious effects of Fox News. 

Indeed.  There are way too many who are so full of Kool-aid and the belief that Trump will take care of everything because he is the best thing since sliced bread and are still hung up on "it's a hoax" "it's not that serious Trump says so...the flu will get you before Covid-19 - stop panicking"  That's why there are so many cases here in a 4 county cluster. The other? "Oh ...we are young.. it won't even bother us more than a cold.... not thinking that they carry it home to grandparents and health compromised individuals like people fighting cancer and chronic conditions.

I actually discussed it with both my children...about 3 weeks ago... and told them of my intuitive thoughts on the subject before it even came to our shores...we all began preparing back then...so they and I are ready and have already been social distancing and self isolating as much as possible with herbal and nutritional remedies at hand. Work and home... that is it. The local Facebook page for my area has been full of Trumpers shouting "it's to make him look bad... it's nothing" now? They are snarling at each other like wolves and wringing hands and crying woe is me. *sigh*

Sadly.. I can not help but feel that Mother Earth has tired of us and our willful arrogance and ignorance and has begun to shrug us off. I know, from personal experience, you really can  lead a horse to water..but you can not make him drink. I can only pray that people hold on to kindness and love as we begin this scary ride before us.

 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

Excellent idea to use cruise ships to create make-shift hospitals!

 



   
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@allyn

A co-worker just pinged me and said she noticed he was looking sick during his address too. So you did catch that. I believe he is already infected. He shook hands with folks at CPAC and they were exposed. He isn't that healthy, eats like crap, and folks like him usually don't get sick - until they do.

 



   
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@triciact

And-

Brazil's press minister Fabio Wajngarten is waiting for the results a COVID-19 test and is currently suspected of having the virus. He was with Trump last Saturday at Mar-a-Lago.

Reminds me of T staring at the eclipse. 

 



   
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@lawrence

I'm definitely seeing Trump contracting covid19. How it affects him, I have no idea, but he will definitely get it. 

 



   
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I also thought Trump looked (and sounded) very unwell last night...but he has appeared unwell to me for some time.

@baba - interesting your vision was of May, which fits with what @lawrence said re: the "fade to black"

I also just came across this on twitter -- I've lost track of how many confirmed cases have been in contact with him recently. I think this is five? six? Maybe seven?

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I don't know about sick but to me he looked stoned!  As an old hippy from the sex, drugs and rocka nd roll area trust me I recognize the look.  Not saying it is illegal drugs could be allergy meds. I can't take prescription allergy meds because the leave groggy and lethargic.   They also can interact with other  drugs to make you stoned. 

I just read an article about Italy.  They are begging for medical supplies.  They don't have enought resperaters or ventalators for the patient that need them.  Also read China is sending them relief.  They eviedently have supplies to combat this.  Figures USA, the richest and greatest nation in the world, has  nothing  We don't even have enough test and the ones we have are expensive and inadequate.  Turd saying the copays would be waived was another lie.  The Rep congress has voted down an empoyee relief bill to help the people who can't go to work.  Of course the WH is against it. It would benefit the emplyees not the employers.  Most of the Pro sports orgs are taking a pro-active approach.  All except Golf and NASCAR!  Surprise!  

I worry about my best friend.  She is a type 1 diabetic and works part time at Home Depot.  I know she takes care of herself and takes every Precaution but she is exposed and this virus could kill her.  I am trying to stay home and only go out if I need to.  I'm 68 and a cancer survivor, I was also diagnosed with Emphazima (?) and quit smoking right away .  That was over ten years ago but I still worry

I believe we will make it through this tough period.  I just hope the realization that the present administration is woawfull inadequate and only wants to take measures that will gain them profits comes to light in such a way that it turns voters away from the Reps.  Everyday I see a post on facebook or twitter from someone who voted for Turd but won't again.  Only time will tell.



   
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@sistermoon

Thanks for your insights. T will be finished in May,  one way or another. 

 



   
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