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ConDon?  ? 

I laughed out loud.  That's one I haven't heard.



   
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ConDon absolutely can be touched.  He can be impeached by the House, tried and removed  from office if found guilty by the Senate, and once he is no longer president, he can be criminally indicted and convicted. (Impeachment is not a criminal process.  It means that that they believe the president is guilty of betraying the public trust, or abusing his office by committing what the Constitution says are "high crimes or misdemeanors."  It gives Congress the ability to remove a president from office and then after that he can be criminally indicted.) 

We know the Senate will not remove him.  But the House can draft articles of impeachment and charge him with abusing his oath of office.  Obstruction of Justice is a serious crime and an impeachable offense. The Mueller Report shows he obstructed justice. 



   
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Polarberry,

I wish I could take credit for it.  I believe it was NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio who came up with that one. 

Thanks for making me laugh!  It pulled me out of my bad mood.



   
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Wow, I missed that de Blasio called him that.  Perfect!

How many thousands of times I've wished that Fred Trump had worn a condon.



   
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Does anyone else take Trump's tweet as a lightly masked admission of guilt?

 

"Nothing changes from the Mueller Report. There was insufficient evidence and therefore, in our Country, a person is innocent. The case is closed! Thank you."



   
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I think he's such an arrogant, narcissistic a-hole that there's a huge part of him that gets off admitting, or coming close to admitting, his crimes because he's so sure that he's going to get away with it all.  He knows he has a Rethug-held Senate, which is controlled by that chinless hemorrhoid McConnell, and attack dogs like Jordan and Cotton to slobber him anytime he demands.

He's forgetting about a lot of things, like the many investigations still ongoing, SDNY, VA, DC, Mueller's grand jury, Flynn, Cohen, the redacted portions of the report (although I'm sure his personal Barrbel has filled him in) and the sealed indictments (for his kids, I believe)



   
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Polarberry,

You made me laugh again.  Thanks!

 



   
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Polarberry,

 

What sealed indictments? I read when the report came out that there were none. Did I miss something?

 

Also, you owe me a new bottle of Coke, as I promptly spit mine all over myself as I read "chinless hemorrhoid" amd laughed harder than I have in a while.



   
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Chinless hemorrhoid?  God how I needed that!  



   
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@Polarberry

"chinless hemorrhoid McConnell"

HAHAHA!!! I couldn't think of a better description myself!

I truly despise McConnell. He makes me shudder whenever I look at him. Yikes!

******

Back to Mueller:

For every reading I have done on 45, the card of Judgement has always showed up (I've also have received the same card for Kushner).

There's another psychic blog I've been reading for a few years and one of the visions they continue to receive for the past year has been of a huge financial scandal for 45 that starts this summer and wraps up in the fall with him resigning.

If I'm not mistaken, there are visions on here of 45 being gone by the fall so there seems to be a collective lineup.

I truly do believe that 45 is going to receive his comeuppance and that it has been a long time in the making. It may not happen in the way we want it but I have a great feeling it's coming no matter what.

Hopefully, 45's VP will go away too and not take 45's spot.

 



   
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lol, sorry,  I guess my loathing of McConnell comes through in my speech.  The Merrick Garland bs still infuriates me.  And he is definitely in bed with Russia and the oligarchs.

MAS, I have no proof other than a gut feeling and the fact that so much of the report was redacted.  I had also read that Barr shared a redacted part with Twitler.  I think they are indicted for financial crimes through SDNY.  Hope we find out very soon.



   
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Carmen, I have been thinking for some time that we should think more about the VP.  



   
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I woke up this morning with a strong sense that if the Dems don’t begin an impeachment inquiry, they will be viewed as cowards by the public who voted for them in 2018.  And that will ultimately hurt them in the end.

This morning I heard a Republican strategist comment that in light of Barr muddying the waters, Mueller had a responsibility to explain a lengthy and sometimes complicated legal report to the general public.  She felt that he didn’t do that, so he failed to complete his job.  Another person mentioned that Mueller  was like a professor who was frustrated because his students (the general public, maybe even Congress) didn’t “get it,” and he was finished explaining it to us.   As in “Did you do your assignment?  Did you read the material?!? “  It is Mueller's  strong belief that it’s up to Congress to explain it to us. 



   
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1. Dems need to start listening to the people and move forward with impeachment. If you give the fascist goldfish and his people ... especially the kentucky devil, whom I hold responsible for everything, even more than the cheeto in chief ... any leeway, they will spin the narrative in their favor. They are already doing that, as well as wagging the dog with this Iran stuff. Impeachment articles need to start NOW. Everyone needs to call their reps and Pelosi and Nadler and everyone on House Judiciary NOW. They need to hear from us that we have their back; even people in blue states.

2. Pelosi might be giving the president* space to step down gracefully, but he's a malignant narcissist; there is no way he would admit defeat. To get him to leave, they need to throw him something that counts: his kids won't be charged, he won't lose his businesses or his money - which is what he's most worried about, something. What he cares about is his image, and they need to give him an out that doesn't take away that image.

3. Mueller did what he could do with the constraints he had. It is very likely that after his retirement, he will be able to say and do more because he will no longer be bound by the rules of his position. As I read on Twitter yesterday, Mueller was playing Taboo yesterday, and his word was "impeach." He literally laid everything in front on Congress and told them, "Here is your roadmap. Take it."

4. Justin Amash, while terrible, is doing the right thing, and his constituents approve. More representatives need to follow his lead. We can't let a Repub look like the sane savior on this. However, Amash is also making a very big point in his statements: "If you READ the Mueller Report, you will come to the same conclusion I did. Stop watching Fox News, stop listening to the pundits and talking heads ... READ the report."

5. There is a very intelligent woman named Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin who breaks down the legal speak every day on a podcast called Resistance Live. Currently, it streams on a few platforms, including Patreon, and runs on Facebook Live, but she is in the process of moving off of Facebook. She is a wealth of information and analysis, and ends every broadcast with action items that people can and should do. She is very intuitive/empathic, and there are days when you can tell she feels absolutely shattered by things that are happening, and days when she feel hopeful. She is ALWAYS fired up and ready to fight. It's worth finding her and listening to her broadcasts to understand the larger picture as well as the minutiae that "lay people" will miss. She also has the interesting juxtaposition of having practiced law in many of the districts that are involved in the current investigations, including Virginia and the SDNY, and was involved professionally and was friends with Ivanka Trump before all of this started, so she has a more keen insight into what drives Daddy.



   
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I feel the same way, Deetoo.  The dems need to step up and get going. It's now or never.  Mueller gave them the foray to impeach and also they need to force him to testify regardless of whether he wants to. All they need to do is get him to repeat what he said and then they need to comment on it and the press needs to write about it --

  1. That the Russian's interference did happen and was a serious attack on our country.
  2. That he did not go so far as to say no collusion happened, only that they didn't have enough evidence to say it did happen. 
  3. Lay out the evidence for obstruction of justice.  Just read it. It's voluminous and needs to be summarized. It shows why Mueller said obstruction of justice could not be ruled out (i.e., he is guilty of it, they just can't say it, only Congress can say it.).
  4. When a subject of an investigation [The President and his team] obstructs that investigation or lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of the government’s effort to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable. (Mueller's words)

I feel they need to impeach in order to open the public's eyes about Trump.   If they don't do it, they have failed to do what we elected them to do, and they are handing a criminal another four years and expediting a global climate catastrophe.

 



   
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Maybe that's why some of us can't clearly see the outcome of the 2020 election.  It's really up to the Dems.  I understand that Pelosi is worried and maybe even fearful of making the wrong decision.  This is too important, and she can't be reckless.  But I feel there is too much strategizing going on.  It's time to do the right thing.  Faith and courage is required.



   
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I feel Trump will win another four years if they don’t impeach. 

Pelosi has held office for too long to make a bold move.  She doesn’t speak for the millions who worked hard to give her a blue wave.

 I called my congressman for the fourth time this week and this time I said I would work to replace him if he didn’t step along side Amash and call for impeachment.  Time is out. 

If nothing happens, I will take a deep breath and focus on living in this moment, on gratitude, on equanimity and the more beautiful world I know is coming when a new breed takes over.  I will not support any candidates who didn’t come out right now when it matters and urge impeachment.  

When Bush urged an invasion of Iraq the same thing happened.  Many knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq but John Kerry and Hillary Clinton voted to go to war.  They did so because they were afraid of political  consequences. They lived to regret those political decisions  .

 



   
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Jeanne,

I agree with everything that you've just stated.   And I'm too frightened to imagine another 4+ years with him, so I can't even go there.  

You've reminded me to contact my congressman again.  I wrote and have heard nothing back from him.



   
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Jeanne, I'm 100% on the same page with you, too.  Thanks for speaking what's in my heart and mind.  



   
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Hmm, I feel less certain. I worry that if he IS impeached, without the support of the Senate or at least part of the Senate or at least a strong majority of the population, it could easily lead to his re-election, and I think him being re-elected would be WAY worse than him staying in power for the next year and a half. I agree that it is crucial to keep pressuring the pols to impeach but don't give up on Pelosi yet. . . speaking as a highly-risk averse lawyer who likes to have ALL the unimpeachable evidence I can muster (pun unintended), I think it's possible she's still working on making an irrefutable case. Remember, the narrative at this point is still muddy thanks to the AG's shenanigans and Fox's spin cycle.



   
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