@cc21, it might bring out more of the Rs who are "never Dumpsters" to vote for P/H. Right now they're saying they will vote for Biden, but with Haley on the R ticket ... not sure. But I also think that it that scenario occurs, it will bring out the Ds in droves (as if they don't already have a reason!)
If it plays out that way, I could see the election results being a lot closer than what I'm seeing now with T running. But I still feel a Biden win.
Anyway, I'm going to sit with it for a while.
Rumor is that is has to do with the NRA. T. and many rethug hands are dirty with Russian money funneled through them. And the NYAG has been investigating campaign finance violations, I'm sure.
Remember all those pictures of Maria Butina posing and smiling with so many of them?
@polarberry yes watching it now... it's the NRA . 18 month long investigation
"In her lawsuit, Attorney General Letitia James called for the dissolution of the NRA and the removal of CEO Wayne LaPierre from the leadership post he has held for the past 39 years, saying he and others used the group’s funds to finance a luxury lifestyle.
She also asked a New York court to force LaPierre and three key deputies to repay NRA members for the ill-gotten funds and inflated salaries that her investigation found they took.
James accused the NRA leaders of flouting state and federal laws and signing off on reports and statements they knew were fraudulent, while diverting millions of dollars away from the NRA’s charitable mission to benefit themselves and their allies."
It's not over yet tho! " The New York Times is reporting that Trump’s bank, Deutsche Bank, was subpoenaed by N.Y. prosecutors in a matter relating to a criminal investigation."
Also, I doubt T. dropping out is going to bring a massive influx of voters to the rethug ticket. We've got a pandemic, economic disaster, soaring food prices, and they're still trying to cut Social Security, Medicare and rip away the ACA. And Haley is on record, a lot, including recently, vigorously defending Twitler. She was part of his so-called administration. Easy to tie her to T.
Short of a health issue impossible to hide, I don't see him dropping out.
I want to add that I don't mean to appear as if I am discounting the visions about Haley. Too many here have seen her factoring into the election somehow, which is bad. I just mean that I can't personally see him stepping aside to allow her to be the nominee. He thinks he is superior to every female on the face of the earth, and we don't know what happened between them.
@journeywithme2 So the NY AG's highly anticipated 11:30 am announcement for today turned out to be about the NRA, not Trump's Detuche bank loan records. Announcing in advance that she was going to make an announcement certainly got everyone's attention. Now the whole world knows about the NRA's scammy leadership. But will the lawsuit thwart NRA election money going to the NRA -friendly candidates, i.e., GOP?
I still have a strong sense of Trump's doings as far as Deutsche Bank records going to drop a bomb that brings him to a standstill. NRA lobbyists have been powerful in the past.....I reckon this is why they are failing now.. this has been cooking along for about 18 months and here is an article from Politico about it last year about this time : https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/18/nra-gun-lobbyist-1466701
Could the convention have upheaval where Trump might not be nominated or the nomination is contested and someone else is floated for nomination?
Well, the thoughts of Haley on a Pence ticket would go along with the above thought. If Trump doesn't last until November, for whatever reason, it would also explain why many have not seen him at the inauguration.
I think the Lincoln project will still support Biden too if Pence/Haley run.
@lovendures What an interesting idea! Hrm....the redacted version of Volume 5 of the Senate Intelligence Committee's report was just accepted by the full committee and will be released to the public soon. There are apparently some pretty damning things in there that point to Trump being more compromised by the Russians than previously thought. If the RNC heads are aware of that (and they likely would be), when that is published it will likely cause some uproar and make T a huge liability for them in the election.
A closed convention would allow them to come up with a plan to use his deteriorating health (which I'm sure they already know about but are keeping it from the public) as an excuse to push him out via the 25th Amendment process to avoid another possible impeachment fiasco. Pence is then immediately sworn in, appoints Haley as his VP (with instant approval by the majority R Senate), and serves as the "short term" interim President that some have seen. That would also fit with some of the visions that people had of a swearing in ceremony in a dark-paneled room with Pelosi there but not looking happy.
If Trump is no longer a possible candidate, Pence could be nominated by an emergency party convention and be the R candidate for the election. Not sure how that would affect things, but it's a very interesting thought experiment.
I think it was Haley who I saw in my visions, but I remember that my visions involved Haley winning or being sworn in, and the populace feeling betrayed.