Jeanne, thank you for taking the time to analyze my dream. Although I've had prophetic dreams about family members over the years, I've never had such a specific dream about a stranger repeat itself over such a long period of time.
Your comparison to Madoff's son is spot on in terms of what my reaction/feeling in the dream is to junior's state of mind - thank you for picking up on that, and your comparison to Icarus also immediately feels right to me. So, perhaps what I've seen in this repeating dream is just a symbolic death, not a literal one.
I know that there is someone else here (Bright Opal maybe?) who said she'd had a similar dream about Junior last year We compared notes and there were a lot of similarities in what we both saw in these dreams.
Thank you.
There is something UnHealthy aout Don, Jr and his girlfriend. As a child of the sixties I say this with some knowledge, too many drugs!
I too think the orange one will lose bt the $hit show will continue until they drag him out kicking and screaming. He is reported to have said he will go in wit ateam of lawyers after the election. That can be taken in many ways.
Don Jr. is a pitiful figure. He wanted a different life but got eaten up by his father's sociopathy and couldn't figure out a way to free himself. Not making excuses, but that monster destroyed his namesake. I pity him, not the other offspring.
@jeanne-mayell You wrote: But the Greeks knew that it was folly to try to be like the gods, and as he got closer to the sun Icarus's wings melted, whereupon he fell to the sea and drowned.
Your whole description hit me hard in both the tragedy of it all, but also its inevitability. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this so beautifully. I probably would have said: Karma is coming, but your way provides so much more of the impact. And, thank you to rosieheart for sharing your dream.
@lynnventura All of these children seem so desperately in want of their father's approval. The best way to get that was to be as like him as possible. Where their psychological needs end and their greed begins, I'll never know. The one Trump who upholds the name as it should have been upheld is Mary Trump. I cannot imagine the pain she suffers because of them--although I hope her book sales and future as "interpreter" of this history helps her heal.
Hi everyone, I’ve been a long time lurker and finally decided to join the conversation ?
Does anyone have a read on if / when QAnon will be exposed? Even if T leaves office ? that still leaves a lot of dangerous conspiracy theories floating around.
@seeker4, have you read Mary T's book? I told myself that I would not read any books about T, but I liked Mary so much in interviews that I purchased it. It's very well written. Mary also has a wonderfully dry wit. I love the fact that she can speak through the personal lens of being a family member, and that she is a psychologist specializing in trauma.
@deetoo Yes, I read it. I agree completely. I'm always in need of trying to understand, and felt like she really gave the insights. I also noted that she said that the media hasn't really gone as deeply into his illness as they should. YIKES.
I've shared here before about how I had numerous dreams about Donald Trump Jr. The dream was always the same: I see him in an apartment on a high floor. He is sitting on a couch and crying hysterically. There is a door opening to a balcony nearby and he gets up and heads to the door, sobbing uncontrollably. The feeling this dream gave me was one of doom and concern for Junior's mental state.
I had this dream five times over a four month period in 2019. I haven't had it again since then, until last night when I woke at 2:22 a.m. PT from the exact same dream.
Just want to mention it here. I hope this is the last time Don Jr. appears in my dreams!
Hi @rosieheart , it was me.
But mine wasn't a dream; it was a clear, rolling (like a movie) vision. I posted about it somewhere in Jeanne's forum back when I first had it (seems like quite a long time ago) and you replied with shock about your dream. So many of the details between your dream and my vision were similar.
What's even stranger is that I woke up yesterday morning with that very same vision on my mind! I thought that was pretty curious. Later, I glanced through my email notifications from this site (sadly, I don't always have time to do so and haven't had any time for it lately), when yours jumped right out. I'd intended to reply to you yesterday, but the day got away from me.
Something is up with Jr. As keenly as I dislike the man—not just for his vile and dishonest rhetoric, but because of his deplorable desire to murder large game animals—I almost hurt for him. He's going through, or shortly will go through, something terrible. I wouldn't be surprised by anything he might do in this state of mind.
On another note, I see Kimberly Guilfoyle attempting to come out at some point with her own tell all. Her motivations are purely self-interest/ambition, I'm afraid.
I'm not caught up in this thread and wish I could be. Love to all.
Hi everyone, I’ve been a long time lurker and finally decided to join the conversation ?
Does anyone have a read on if / when QAnon will be exposed? Even if T leaves office ? that still leaves a lot of dangerous conspiracy theories floating around.
Welcome @teacup! I'm scarcely around of late, but so happy to see lurkers finally posting. ?
As to your question:
Our intelligence community already knows precisely what Q is, and many former directors and others have been advising and warning the American people that this could happen for a while now. In every way, it appears to be a massive psy-op, constructed and deployed by god knows who, but my guess is that it links back to our archest international foe.
All roads lead to ... FSB/GRU.
Americans only thought we won the Cold War. But how does one win a war in which the enemy weaves themselves further underground and—armed with cyber and AI and advanced social engineering capacities—can go on fighting indefinitely, f*&k our little sanctions and embargos?
The dark irony is that they've used the CIA's own tactics here. For them, it's a hilarious but purposeful con. The conceit of Americans is that we have forever held ourselves to be morally, not just economically or militaristically, superior to all others. So, they've used our ingrained moral compunction against us. Who doesn't hate a pedophile, much less a plague of them?
The end game is always the same, whether Americans are conducting the ops or anyone else is. Sow discord; create chaos. Cause mass distrust and polarization to spread, such that one's enemy implodes of its own accord. Divided we fall, right?
The trouble with an operation like Q, however, is that it's another Stuxnet in nature. It can't be contained. Once you've opened that box, you've guaranteed that all those nasty brain-washing goblins will fly out and... spread. And if you happen to reign over an oligarchy, you've really screwed yourself in the gambit.
While Madoff himself has remained intact, although in prison, his son could not handle the steep fall that the family endured, and he took his own life, leaving his own two year old son with out a father to guide him.
Jeanne, your entire post here was phenomenal. But more amazingly, you seem to have threaded Fate's needle. Here's why...
I was actually the one (Rosie couldn't remember) who'd posted a vision (not a dream) of Don Jr. inside a high rise and luxuriously appointed apartment, sobbing himself sick. He looked panic-stricken. When Rosie shared her dream, we were totally taken by surprise at how similar they were. I actually woke up with that vision on my mind again yesterday.
However, I DID have a dream that connects even more to your post above, and which I posted here sometime last year or before. You actually replied to me at the time about it. In the dream, I was outside a large construction trailer, the sort that large engineering & construction companies erect on the site of a major build, to be used as an office. It was night. There was a sinister feeling of foreboding as I tried to peer into the windows (so I was effectively only an observer). It was dark inside the building except for a distant light, coming from an adjoining room. And there were rows and rows of high metal shelves (like a labyrinth!). Ivanka Trump was inside this room, trying to hide in a dark corner.
Then, I could see the hoofed feet of a Minotaur enter the room! It was very very tall and I could hear it snorting/sniffing to find her. And I could feel Ivanka's terror. That's all I remember.
But that's not the only thread you've connected:
In the original post of my vision about Don Jr. sobbing desperately in the high rise apartment, I also shared that I felt something about it could be connected to a tragedy with one of his own sons. That was because I saw a flash of a boy sitting alone in the back of a very nice car just before I saw the image of Don Jr. in the apartment. Now you've just brought it home by referencing Madoff's son—and grandson.
Very very interesting. And a clear example of how our myths (archetypal stories) perpetually repeat.
Out of all the books about #45 that have been written, Always Too Much and Never Enough is the only one I have any interest in reading. As someone who's trying to understand wetiko - the disease of separation - I think reading about T's relationship with his father will be instructive. But I've decided I won't read the book until the wetiko-in-chief is out of the White House.
@coyote I am sorry to hear that. Wondering if you have the Monday night link. It is different than the Wednesday night link. I was not able to get Zoom to keep the link the same for both meetings. Please let me know what happened.
I honestly don't know what happened. The only thing I can think of is that I moved the email messages for the Circle of Light meditations from my inbox to my archive last week, so that could have interfered with the link. I know I was trying the link for the Monday meditations.
@coyote oh bummer! When I didn’t see you in the lineup, I imagined you basking in white light ?
actually, that happens to me sometimes. Not sure why... perhaps mercury retrograde
Agreed. While on one level I am sickened by the Trump offspring, on another level I feel a small sense of compassion: watching them desperately parrot their father's talking points, constantly doing virtual handsprings for his approval... all to "be acceptable or even relevant momentarily", to get a quick nod of approval from the Orange One, only to be forgotten a moment later. Growing up in that sociopathic, cruel home could not have been easy. They probably figured out that "the best place to hide" in that home was by mimicking The Great Orange Narcissist" as a form of emotional camaflouge. I had greater hopes for Tiffany who turned out to be just like the rest. Mary Trump's book, btw, was excellent: even-handed, very credible and eye-opening....amid all that material excess, these are 5 incredibly emotionally-impoverished kids...