The alleged rise in vasectomies has spawned a discussion about the decision to have children. So I'm moving the cultural impacts of the Roe v Wade decision to it's own thread.Â
I fear it is going to get worse before it gets better. I just heard about a Texas case where a woman almost died from a miscarriage because the doctors wouldn't do the procedure until she was almost dead (the usual "fetal heart" excuse). Apparently, the same procedure that is used to rid a woman of a miscarriage (and thus save the woman from internal hemmorages, severe pain, septic shock, and possible death) is the same procedure used for abortions.
So, eh, yeah. We are just a month into Post-Roe and already we have raped children and women with miscarriages being made to almost bleed to death.
I hate to say it, but I think we will be getting some stories involving dead children and women soon. I think it goes without saying that not only are the anti-women states red states, but red states are notorious for having the worst overall health care systems. So, we will probably see children forced to give birth to their rapists' babies and die in the process, or women who die long, lingering deaths as a result of miscarriages while old men pat themselves on the back for putting uppity women in their place.
Funny, it seems as though our place as women is six feet under, by their logic.
They may be comfortable with blood on their hands, but I will rejoice when people swarm the streets and scream loudly at the great injustice that they are inflicting on us. Then they will wear the shell-shocked look of accident victims who look blankly ahead when we take back our country.
Republicans don't know it, but they have become the enemy to anyone who believes that women are actual people and not objects to rape and have babies with. To twist a woman's natural strength to bear a child and turn it into a form of bondage and slavery is unforgivable. Most of the younger generations feel this way too, and the time will come when Republicans are not only thrown out of office, but they will look on with shock and despair as the younger generations not only dismantles their anti-abortion crusade, but everything that the Republican party has stood for (unlimited guns, tax breaks for big corporations and the ultra-rich, denial of global warming, right-wing lunatics and racism, etc.). Further, when they yell and scream and obstruct and threaten, they will find that their usual methods no longer work, as younger generations will look upon them with such loathing that hoping the Republican Party will never rise again and become a small minority, much as it is in California.
I pray I live to see the day when the country gets to the point that Republicans find themselves so far in the minority that they never regain power and look back on this moment as the beginning of the end.
It is one thing to go against minorities, the gay/lesbian/transgender communities, immigrants, etc. Even if they all team up and vote as a block, they can't hope to overcome the affects of gerrymandering. But women? That is another matter entirely. Women voters outnumber men voters in this country. So if the majority of the women vote Democrat and make it a priority to vote Democrat until we take back the country and drive Republicans like Trump, McConnell, Cruz, and Desantis into oblivion, then nothing will stop their reckoning.
They made a grave mistake going after women with abortion as a means to subjugate us. They will rue the day a woman or girl dies as a result of their policies. Because nothing stirs up a woman more than the death of a child. And woe to the Republican rapists who make it happen. When it does, I hope they are ready for the fallout.
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Women in this country who will be subject to this "forced birth form of bondage" should simply go on strike and "close their legs"!! There is "power" in them nether regions! :)
Also, I wonder whether, along with HPV and other recommended vaccines, that birth control sponges should not be recommended for women of child-bearing age starting at age 18 as a standard procedure until she chooses to become impregnated? That or insisting upon reversible vacsectomies for the men. If the Pro Life crowd gets so bent out of shape by a beating heart (and then takes zero responsibility for it after it is born!), then take actionable and do-able steps to prevent it in the first place!!
I don't think your statement is from bad intention, however saying something like you did is EXTREMELY offensive.
I would ask you to think on it.
"Closing the legs" is no bulwark against rape, incest, domestic violence, date rape, etc. The women who are partnered with the "alpha"males who are subjugating the rest of us are not going to go on strike a la Lysistrata, this is how they want things. They crave theocracy.
Also, they're going to come after contraception next. The right wing in the US is nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Let THEIR mistresses and daughters get unwanted pregnancy and they'll get them an abortion no matter how far they have to go.
Welcome to Gilead.
I certainly did not mean to be offensive and what I said was said primarily in a "tongue in cheek" kind of way. You are correct of course: there is PLENTY of sexual abuse/coercion/incest, etc. going on by alpha males, misogynists, etc. and what is going on re. overturning abortion rights is outrageous. My point is that, in some way, women must take back their own power. The anti- abortion stance is horrendous enough...if they do come after birth control then Gilead WILL truly have arrived. I wonder if this would affect marriage rates (which have been declining in the U.S. in recent years anyway)? Family structures have been evolving to include alternate forms: same sex partnerships, single mothers by choice, surrogacy, sperm donation and companionate (non-sexual) marriages among others. If forced pregnancy becomes part of our country's established landscape, I wonder whether a significant percentage of women might not begin to turn away from traditional marriage and begin seeking out alternative (and safer!) ways of forming their families? Women need to maintain control over their own bodies, safety and family planning!
Btw, you took the words out of my mouth: Should any of our theocratic-loving right wingers be faced with an unwanted pregnancy, no doubt they would hotfoot it to the closest abortion clinic in the next state over. They are, without doubt, a bunch of power-hungry hypocrites...
A little bit of levity on the topic of sex....and I apologize in advance for this but it made me laugh so hard....the headline read, "Harvard scientists have identified the number one cause of vaginal dryness" and underneath was a picture of Matt Gaetz and Ted Cruz. 🤣Â
MAGA Mothers against Greg Abbott will this resonate with voters?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sm-77iXC3k
Regards to all
In some ways women are taking back their power where they can. Some women are making the choice to never be a parent by choosing to be surgically sterilized. This quote is from an AP article. Every woman that attended the FAQ session on tubal ligation/Fallopian removal made an appointment for the procedure. Every woman.Â
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Dr. Tyler Handcock, an Austin OB-GYN, said his clinic has heard from hundreds of patients seeking sterilization since the Supreme Court’s June 24 decision. Many choose this route because they fear long-acting birth control or other contraceptives could also become targets, he said.
His clinic scheduled a July 9 group counseling session to handle the surge, and every one of the 20 patients who showed up to hear about the risks and ramifications of fallopian tube-removal made an appointment to have the surgery.”
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https://apnews.com/article/abortion-science-health-medication-lupus-e4042947e4cc0c45e38837d394199033
Unfortunately, a lot of drs refuse to tie tubes. I get so mad when I hear people say, just get your tubes tied. Women who even have health conditions where pregnancy could cause worsening health and/or death have been refused. I was reading drs refusal to deny medical treatment (tie tubes) could be human rights violation under gender and disability (medical). I would like to see some lawsuits filed over it. I bet there are lawyers out there who would do it now pro bono. Wish I knew where to find these groups. Â
@mistysue41 you are not wrong. There are Drs who refuse because “you might regret it.”Â
There are also Drs who will trust that their patients know themselves and their personal wishes. But to this date they have been in the minority.Â