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@vestralux  yes - White supremacists are losing their power and they know it . TBS? It's inevitable. ?



   
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Posted by: @lizzie

I am a firm believer in people's energy. In my opinion, it doesn't matter if that person is no longer alive. I believe his or her energy is still around. Before the November elections, I was not able to keep Benjamin Franklin off of my mind, until I suddenly realized that Philadelphia (where he lived) was going to be the decisive electoral outcome for Biden's win.

I was reading last night again about Benjamin Franklin, and I found something that seemed like a "coincidence". Well, most of the information about him will say that he was born in Boston, on January 17, 1706. Coincidence? You see, the domestic terrorists vowed to re-start their mob activities tomorrow, January 17... But there is more, if you read deeper into Franklin's bio, you will find that, under the old calendar, his real birthday was January 6, 1705. The 6th and the 17th. Coincidence? I don't know. But I hope he keeps helping us. This beloved land and its Democracy is his and our most precious jewel.

I love what you have written here about Ben Franklin - that he keeps arising in your thoughts and that you discovered he is associated with these two important dates.  

A year ago at one of the RTF nights, I saw Benjamin Franklin sitting in Congress in a vision.  He is the only one of our forefathers to appear to me in visions during these last few years and he appeared unexpectedly and clear as a bell. The measure of the power of a vision is (1) that it is wholly unexpected and (2) it is very clear. 

So @lizzie, thank you for reminding me that this great man is here with us protecting the democracy he spent much of his life building.



   
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Posted by @vestralux:

Most powerful people get there because they control the messaging and excel in misdirection. 

Yup -- and they'll use whatever means are available to them.  It's pretty brilliant, really; how else could you get that many people to vote against their own self-interests?

About the conspiracies:  I know two intelligent, highly-gifted intuitives who for decades have followed some New Age philosophies.  I always found them to be quite open-minded, balanced and measured in their approach to life.  Within the past few years they have completely fallen into the conspirituality rabbit hole.  I was gob smacked.  As I thought about it, I sensed it fills an emotional need for them -- as Vestralux stated, it "psychologically affords them a "special" status, some form of enhanced belonging and worthiness."  It's an easy trap to fall into, especially when you might be feeling lost and/or want to feel like you're making a more meaningful contribution to this world.  For as much as I sometimes want to feel special, I try to avoid it -- frankly, I am even uncomfortable calling myself a "lightworker", insofar as it might lead me to believe that I am one of the chosen ones, to be here on earth during this pivotal point in our evolution.  The way I see it, I'm just one of many billion points of light.  What I choose to do with that light is up to me.

Guess you could say I'm very open-minded and pretty woo-woo, with a healthy dose of skepticism.  After 68+ years on this planet and also an "experiencer," I hope that by now, I am humbled by what I don't know.  For me, it's important that I live within that tension, that uncomfortableness of not knowing -- instead, just being fully present to the moment.  A spiritual being having a human experience.

The following quote by Rainer Maria Rilke is posted above my computer:

Be patient toward all that is unresolved in your heart ... try to love the questions themselves ... Do not seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them ... Live the questions now.  Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing, live ... into the answers.



   
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Posted by: @deetoo

For me, it's important that I live within that tension, that uncomfortableness of not knowing -- instead, just being fully present to the moment.  A spiritual being having a human experience.

The following quote by Rainer Maria Rilke is posted above my computer:

Be patient toward all that is unresolved in your heart ... try to love the questions themselves ... Do not seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them ... Live the questions now.  Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing, live ... into the answers.

I love this, @deetoo! And I totally agree -- living with that uncomfortableness of not knowing. I am slowly realizing this as I get older. When I was younger, I just wanted to know the definite answer. I love to dig around, learn from others experiences and my own, form a fuller picture (and one that often shifts as I learn more), but realize that it is ok to not know definitively. It is, as the quote by Rilke states, important to "live the questions now...and live...into the answers."



   
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@deetoo 

So beautifully said, my friend.

Right now, at the cutting edge of organizational and psychological development movements, there's a growing approach toward "emergence," or emergent-thinking, if you will. It requires that people get okay with not-knowing so they can open up to whatever the future, i.e., the "evolutionary impulse" (higher consciousness), is seeking to bring forward. 

It doesn't mean that people shouldn't seek to know, learn, study, and practice in all the domains. It's more about how, once we've done all that we can to acquire knowledge in a specific area, that we also hold some humility about how vastly much more is yet unknown.

Rigid thinking and entrenched ideologies prevent collective intelligence from blooming, which causes higher human potentials/ new futures from being born. 

So, I love and share your approach. I'm always having to exercise my willingness to be okay with not knowing (also my willingness to acknowledge when I may be wrong). Not an easy thing all the time but it never fails to serve me when I try.



   
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@vestralux, wasn't it Socrates who said; "The more I know, the more I realize I know nothing."?

There is also an Asian quote (Buddhism?) that the path to wisdom is realizing one knows nothing (or something in that context). 

When people get older they are usually (not always!) set in their ways and that begets some sort of inability to learn new things. A set world view is safe. "This is how it is". People want safety. A lot of 60/70+ year olds do not want to learn about new technology anymore for the same reason.

But keep on learning? Wow, now that opens up a rich, wonderful life. May we all keep on learning from other cultures, studies of philosophy, technology, science... and so on!

 

@deetoo, let's call every being doing good deeds a light-worker. That means millions and millions of lights shining on this world. ❤️ 



   
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@moonbeam

Indeed.?



   
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@moonbeam  I am sixty-five, and retiring from teaching this summer.  I am an American male.  I think/hope that I am not alone in facing a sort slo-mo second adolescence, with no ways to stick to, nothing I feel I must defend, and no interest in a skewed nostalgia.  I welcome newness.

I have seen other men my age and older, who are clinging to the past.  They are my negative role models.  I speak here only for myself, not a coalition of techo-phobic old guys.

The processes of aging are much more complex than I had ever imagined.  And pretty darned mysterious.



   
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@billy-mike    I am a few years from (probable) retirement and am a scientist by profession. The thing about science that fascinated me from the beginning is that we have this elegant framework that makes sense--- yet still there is more, and more and more to learn-- and more refinements and even radical discoveries to be made.  I don't let most people in on my metaphysical leanings because I've had too many be aghast at them *because* I am a scientist.   But to me, it is fascinating to see the empirical evidence and wonder how it all fits into everything.   Knowing everything = BORING.  That's how I look at life in general.    I can't imagine ever being bored with life because I will never know everything.   



   
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@Iridum Yes! to all you write.  I am blessed to be married to a scientist, and even more so, a scientist who can and will explain to me the metaphysical elements of science, as she sees them. Science, she says, is her God's process.  Yes, we don't know everything; that fuels my hopes for the future.



   
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Thank you for stating that so clearly - the difference between intuition and magical thinking. That helps me when thinking of what happens on this site vs. other things.

Of course, it doesn't help my peace of mind that the most powerfully intuitive people pick up on cues and clues I never believe until it's too late. There's a real quandry for a convincible skeptic, that can only be resolved by meditation and nachos.



   
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@billy-mike, that makes me so glad to read! To start a new phase of yourself when retired is a wonderful thing. So many do not know what to do then anymore. No I say! *live*! Life is not defined by work. ? 

Blessings and wishing you many wonderful experiences on this new path.



   
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@deetooa. Love your post, all of it.  Especially how you view yourself as a lightworker.  I relate.  I am captivated by all of this, and humbled too.  But you are special, Deetoo, just so you know.  :)



   
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Sadly, a second police officer, Officer Jeffrey Smith, a 12-year-veteran of the Metro Police Department, has killed himself in the aftermath of the attack on the Capitol.

The fallout on this horrible event continues to cause deep trauma.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/second-officer-capitol-riot-dies-suicide-police-chief-says-n1256003  



   
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This is interesting some of the so called “Patriots” that stormed the Capital to turn over the election never voted in the election they was trying to overturn 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/capitol-rioters-non-voters-invs/index.html?utm_content=2021-02-01T20%3A02%3A45&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNN&fbclid=IwAR3aO-uC4iBYETEuifoUTkbcrr6oW699_ub2IATCzSrOq0CkvzkjKCjGn_8



   
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Dang!

The new videos shown today during the impeachment hearing are chilling.

I know many of you have chosen not to see the hearing and might not see these videos. To realize how close Romney was to walking into the mob and how he was saved by a running officer Goodman (the heroic officer from the staircase) who urgently redirected him in the other direction was powerful.  Romney only realized how close he was to the insurrectionists  after watching the video today.  To see Schumer and his security detail walk down a hallway and disappear around a corner only to see them instantly RUN back around the corner and down the hallway was really chilling.  So was the video of Vice-President Pence and family escaping.

The timeline of what Trump was doing and tweeting compared to what was going on at the Capitol was also powerful.

I have so much respect for the Capitol Police and Metro Police who fought for so many hours.  These officers fought for their lives to save the Congress members.  Imagine how they will fell if the Rep. Senators vote to support Trump.

 



   
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@lovendures

I watched the video yesterday.  Besides the violence in the video, two things really stood out to me.  1) The Republican party has made "law and order" one of their talking points.  I don't see how they can claim to stand for law and order if they just ignore this.  2) Another of their talking points is that "Police Lives Matter."  You can hear from the words of the insurrectionists that they had no respect for the lives of the police who were protecting the Capitol. 

I realize that many of the MAGA cultists who were in the crowd aren't true Republicans, but I don't see how how Republican politicians could ignore all this without looking like hypocrites.  That said, their hypocrisy is becoming more and more obvious as they rally against the Biden administration for things that the tRump administration did in the extreme.  I feel that many of their talking points no longer carry any credibility, as it's obvious they don't really stand for the ideals and values they claim to hold dear.



   
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I have been watching the entire time. All of it. I am appalled at the disrespect shown by Hawley, Rand and the others. Feet on desks, not watching, doodling. They are there as  leaders supposedly our representatives that not only were there on that day but part of it!!! I think they should HAVE to watch it... to acknowledge the enormity of what they participated in and enabled and continue to support! To show a modicum of respect for the office they hold and the oath they took. I pray people remember the true horror of this day and vote to convict. I also pray that Georgia continues to press charges over those phone calls to Kemp and Raffensperger.



   
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