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(@anita)
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@deetoo

im so sorry for you and I realize it’s most of us in the same place. Today I had an endoscopy. My doctor said my stomach is very inflamed. She took some samples for a biopsy. So much stress for us all. We’ve known things are bad. It seems more and more people are seeing it, now that this pandemic has made it impossible for most everyone to be more aware. I imagine some 39% or so will find it’s easier to keep drinking the kool aid. I am watching much less news and more Netflix. 
pit might be painful just caring for others. But that caring is giving and you might find there’s no need to have guilt when you are doing so much.

Sending you warmth and prayers for your peace and health and for us all.

 

Anita



   
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(@moonbeam)
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@ Deetoo. Love your words, so much kindness and love comes off you when you post. Thinking of you and wishing you will feel much better soon. You are right, we are a tribe. Or a 'pack' in wolf speak ❤️ 



   
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(@lovendures)
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@deetoo

Dear Deetoo,

You are such a loving and kind lady and beautiful person.  

Sending you a huge love filled hug.



   
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       We keep hearing that if only we had a vaccine we could end the world's problems with the COVID-19 pandemic. I'm not so sure that a vaccine will end the pandemic. This particular virus has a lot in common with the common cold with respect to its ability to mutate. The reason we don't have vaccines for the common cold is that their value would end quickly once the viruses mutated. We face the problem of trying to keep up with the numerous mutations that occur.

       A successful COVID-19 vaccine would likely have only a short period of effectiveness followed by a huge resurgence in the global pandemic. It takes a long period of time to properly test new vaccines for safety and effectiveness. But time is on the side of the viruses which will mutate again and again to make the vaccines ineffective. We clearly have the wrong type of leadership in the White House to deal something like COVID-19. He has actively undermined the measures needed to limit the spread of the virus. Trump does not care one iota about how many people perish because of COVID-19. He cares only about staying in power and raking in money for himself.



   
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(@frank)
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@5leafclover  Actually, the SARS-CoV-2 mutation rate has so far been more like the mumps than a cold virus.  A vaccine should work quite well for getting the pandemic under control:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-mutation-and-covid-19#The-bottom-line

 



   
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@deetoo You are a gentle soul and the external chaos must be such wear and tear on you. To borrow a phrase from teens today “you do you!” There’s no need to apologize for stepping away. I too have felt  the need to pull back my energies and give my inner self safe harbor for a while. 



   
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(@laura-f)
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@frank

The issue around vaccines also has to do with retention of antibodies. You are right, it's not mutating as quickly as we thought, but it is mutating faster than most influenzas.  And it's looking like antibodies might not stay in circulation in a human bloodstream beyond a few weeks.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/studies-report-rapid-loss-of-covid-19-antibodies-67650

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-antibodies-fade-months-study/story?id=71406787

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/chinese-study-antibodies-covid-19-patients-fade-quickly

MUTATION TRACKING



   
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(@lovendures)
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Texas has confirmed their first case of Covid in an animal.  The animal is a dog and the owners of the dog had covid.  It is believed they give the virus to the dog.

First I have heard of a dog getting the virus.

https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/state-dog-has-first-case-of-coronavirus-in-texas-animal/?fbclid=IwAR0o9mHFmlaomKEmRH8PB46ga4GSYmBqXUjU5UbYdFkUONOF3KASVMLmidQ



   
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(@laura-f)
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@lovendures

I think in Italy there was a similar case... or was it NYC...?



   
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(@lovendures)
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@laura-f

I knew about cats, but I don't remember a dog.  I wonder how sick they get?



   
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@lovendures

OK, now I remember - it was the big cats (tigers) in the Bronx Zoo. They think maybe one of the zookeepers who had a very mild case gave it to them.

I imagine that since this particular coronavirus originated in animals, it probably doesn't sicken them as much as us.



   
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@laura-f

There has been dogs. In China and NY

The United States Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) National Veterinary Services Laboratories (NVSL) today announced the first confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) infection in a pet dog (German shepherd) in New York state. This is the first dog in the United States to test positive for SARS-CoV-2.

Samples from the dog were taken after it showed signs of respiratory illness. The dog is expected to make a full recovery. One of the dog’s owners tested positive for COVID-19, and another showed symptoms consistent with the virus, prior to the dog showing signs. A second dog in the household has shown no signs of illness; however, antibodies were also identified in that dog, suggesting exposure.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/newsroom/stakeholder-info/sa_by_date/sa-2020/sa-06/sars-cov-2-dog

And in China 

The first dog in the world to be found with the new coronavirus died on Monday after testing negative for the disease and returning home, according to Hong Kong’s animal welfare authority.

The 17-year-old Pomeranian, which belonged to a now-recovered Covid-19 patient, had been under mandatory quarantine at a government facility since February 26, and returned home last Saturday.

The dog had repeatedly been tested during its quarantine. A total of five tests from its nasal and oral samples all returned “weak positive” results for the virus.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3075650/first-dog-found-coronavirus-has-died-after



   
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Good morning, all! I pulled three Tarot cards (Thoth deck) on the coronavirus and my interpretations are as follows:

I asked "What can you tell me about coronavirus?"
 
In August:
 
Adjustment
I noticed immediately the scales of justice (karma). The figure is balancing very delicately on the tip of the sword. Things can go either way. I think if states and individuals start buckling down on restrictions in July and August, things will start to get under control. However, again, it can go either way if not taken seriously.
 
In September:
 
Truce (4 of swords)
The swords appear to be holding the flower in place. I think that people/states start to really buckle down (out of necessity) and things start to hold steady. Not necessarily improve, but stop getting exponentially worse. I noticed the green color which usually indicates creativity, so perhaps there will be some creative solutions either medically (vaccine/antibody related) or with the whole back-to-school situation. The text indicated rest from sorrow; recovery from sickness; and change for the better after struggle, so I hope this is a more positive card for Sept.
 
In October:
 
Prudence (8 of discs)
Seeing this after Truce in Sept. makes me think that things will be moving in a more positive direction regarding COVID-19. This is a beautiful card and the first time I have pulled it. The yellow background is cheerful and brings me hope. The twisted tree trunk is strong and the swirling leaves and flowers appear to be in balance, though cautiously -- the leaves are sort of protecting the flowers. The text indicates that this card is intelligence applied to material affairs. So again, perhaps some overall cautious prudence and seeing a hopeful way forward.
 
Would love to hear if any of this resonates with anyone or if you have other interpretations. Thanks!


   
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The governor of Florida just said that if Walmart and Home Depot is open so can the schools open

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is pushing to reopen schools in the fall against the advice of some of the nation's top health officials, and said if Walmart and Home Depot are open, schools should be, too.

"We spent months saying that there were certain things that were essential -- that included fast food restaurants, it included Walmart, it included Home Depot. If fast food and Walmart and Home Depot -- and look, I do all that, so I'm not looking down on it -- but if all that is essential, then educating our kids is absolutely essential," DeSantis, a Republican and ally of President Donald Trump, said in Jacksonville on Thursday.
 
He continued, "But I'm confident if you can do Home Depot, if you can do Walmart,
 
 
 


   
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(@deetoo)
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@cc21, @grace, @febbby23, @share, @jewels, @laura-f, @anita, @moonbeam, @lovendures, @pikake, and everyone,

Thank you for your likes and kind words of wisdom, love and support.  With everything that’s gone on the past 3-1/2 years, I was feeling okay and pretty solid within myself, and then Covid-19 hit.  I believed that I was managing that okay too, until I clearly saw that those in political power don’t care whether we live or die.  I knew it intellectually, but I guess wasn’t allowing myself to feel it.  It's terrifying and hurts too much.  The feeling was visceral, and it upended me.  For whatever reason, I now feel and accept it.  It’s up to us to save ourselves.

When I was sick last week and feared I might have Covid, I said to my husband, “if I die from this pandemic, I’m sticking around to haunt that orange monster.”  Once I began to feel better, I had to laugh at myself!  I mean, just the thought that I would waste one ounce of my precious energy on that horrible man … to taint my spirit and relinquish my peace to haunt him, is insanity.  Funny maybe, but nuts. ?  Besides … he’s already haunted.  Ghosts of his own creation.  I don't feel sorry for him, but I do feel sad for the choices he's made.  And I don’t care to ever venture inside his dark psyche or his empty heart.  While I’m here on this earth, and eventually in the hereafter, I’ve got more important things to do.

Stay strong, my friends.  Love and blessings to all of you.   



   
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Posted by: @jessi1978

The governor of Florida just said that if Walmart and Home Depot is open so can the schools

 

There are so many things that come to mind about these Trumper politicians, but it all comes down to one thing:  they do not care about the very people they were elected to serve.  They care about money and their own power and supporting a dark agenda. When leaders who care about people discuss the pros and cons of opening the schools, I am interested in what they have to say. Coming from this man, I only hear lie, lie, lie while people die, die, die.



   
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@cc21I think scientifically, while we're seeing the death count rise now, August is when that "0.02%" number (not a real number I think, just one I've seen on social media as a reason for reopening without restriction) is going to be markedly higher.  It would make sense that if we start buckling down toward the end of this month (which seems tragically far from now to start buckling down) that we'd see higher death and long term illness rates around then that could push us into that much more hopeful September you drew!

I think this article sums up where we're headed by the end of this month: https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/natural-disasters/506841-top-white-house-coronavirus-adviser-says  

I'm unable to draw cards this exact second, but I took a few moments to mediate on your reading of September.  I saw the sky outside of my house which looked and felt like it has the last two weeks (yay!  Summer like weather into September?) and everything felt quiet.  That quiet is potentially the most important because while I live in the country, I'm on the main drag into the bigger town we live outside of and since Michigan reopened that road has been non-stop.  The quiet was reminiscent of April before the crazies started protesting lockdown.

As I argued with someone on Twitter about masks yesterday, it sort of hit me that we did do a good job overall of bringing the curve down, and large swaths of people don't personally know someone with massive COVID complications or who succumbed to the illness.  I think alongside the uncertainty of all of this that's really made some rational people crazy.

But if that death count continues to rise, it's going to force far more people to the realization that this is serious.



   
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Posted by: @dannyboy

But if that death count continues to rise, it's going to force far more people to the realization that this is serious.

This is one of those times when I thought about what I said and wanted to come back and clarify since "edit" had disappeared by the time I unburied from laundry.

Many people took this seriously the first time around.  I'm referring here to the people who laugh it off, call it "just the flu", rant about draconian stay at home orders, and fixate solely on the economic impact.



   
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@dannyboy

Thanks for your feedback and meditation on Sept. I think you are right that we will all start seeing the deaths go up as the cases that are surging now fully come into play. I wonder if your "quiet" for Sept. indicates another stringent lockdown (either here in MI or in other areas of the country?) as we all try to get things more under control?

I have been reading lots of articles and posts the last couple of days on the whole issue of school opening and it is hitting me that COVID is nowhere near under control enough to safely open schools. It is not anywhere near under control enough for people to travel (countries not letting U.S. citizens in, etc.) or offices to get back to "meetings as usual in person", but people are willing to experiment with kids being back in the classroom in some form for 7 hours a day? Yes, some districts are going virtual or having that as an option, but many (including the two our girls go to) are waiting and watching and we haven't heard a final plan yet on how this will go. But even if we locked down instantly, today, it would still be iffy at the end of August to say, ok, we have seen enough of a drop to send kids back. Anyway - off my soapbox now. Trying to figure out what to do with my kids this fall and the COVID-coaster has been racing up and down all week on this issue.



   
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@dannyboy I feel that the second wave will lead to more people to open their eyes. Good thing Trump's approval rating is declining.



   
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