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Posted by: @lovendures

 

For those who have already gotten their third dose and are concerned about these new approvals, let me clarify what I know:

You got your 3rd dose the way you are allowed  get it. There is no issue with when you received it or the dosage given.  What hasn't been approved by the CDC to my understanding is a "regular" 3rd booster for Moderna (like the one Pfizer is currently approved for) .  Moderna would like that one to be a half dose not full dose. 

People with other underlying medical conditions are currently approved for only Pfizer.

Immune compromised individuals (who categorized differently than people with underlying medical conditions, even though they have an underlying medical condition)  can get either Moderna or Pfizer.   

As I write this, the FDA and Moderna are not seeing eye to eye on a 3rd dose for the general population or any population other than immune compromised individuals. Of course the FDA and CDC didn't see eye about the approval categories for Pfizer either.   We shall see what ultimately happens for Moderna boosters. (Actually, I don't know what is considered a booster or just a 3rd dose anymore.  That terminology is even more confusing to accurately figure out). 

From the CDC:

COVID-19 Vaccine booster shots are available for the following Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine recipients who completed their initial series at least 6 months ago and are:

The live and work in high-risk settings category (for Pfizer) is so broad and it's that way by design given the back and forth on approval. If you got Pfizer for your first two doses they can't technically ask you to elaborate on which of the categories or health factors you fall under so if you want a third dose you can go get it.

 



   
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Just a couple of points for the side effect database:

My husband and I both got our third Pfizer vaxxes Monday morning (Two days ago).  The only side effect I have had is some minor soreness local to the vaccination site, and that's about gone at this time.  For me, the COVID booster was no worse than a flu shot.  I was pleasantly surprised. 

On the other hand, my husband had an entire sore upper arm and woke up with chills last night.  Nevertheless, he was fine in the morning.    We're glad we got it done. 



   
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I also just had a lot of soreness.  Arm and some leg soreness, then gone within a few days. No flu symptoms, for which I was grateful. 



   
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In the news, Japan mysteriously sees a COVID-19 success.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/vaccines-masks-japan-puzzling-sudden-virus-success-80637112

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@enkasongwriter Thanks for linking this great news story. It is wonderful how the country turned things around quickly. They had severe spikes in covid, and then authorities held a rapid vaccination program that brought it to 70 percent vaccinated quite quickly. The people cooperated, the youth emptied out of the bars and restaurants.   Also bad weather kept people indoors during the late summer. It reminds me of something that happened in NYC back in the early 1980's when water reservoirs were very low and the Mayor ran a public information campaign to get people to reduce water use and plug leaks.  Virtually overnight, water consumption plummeted.  It showed how a tightly knit population can rise to the occasion.  I hope for the Japanese, that the low Covid incidence continues. 



   
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Tonight live on air while discussing the death of Colin Powell from Covid and Powell being  immunocompromised, CNN's John King shared a secret he has been keeping.  He has Multiple Sclerosis and is also immunocompromised.  He then proceeded to thank CNN for having a policy requiring vaccines and said he was grateful everyone around him was also vaccinated.

It was very powerful to watch.  Perhaps the death of Powell and the bravery of King will make a difference.  Perhaps more lives will be save.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/19/media/john-king-multiple-sclerosis/index.html

 

 



   
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@lovendures That was powerful.  I loved the way it ended, with him saying, it's not about celebrities' deaths. Everyone we have lost is a national treasure. it's about the 750,000 treasures in our country who have died.



   
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My husband got his third dose today (Pfizer). I asked the nurse about it and, according to her, it was not a variant-specific vaccine. It was simply the same as the first two shots. Am I missing something? I though these were vaccines for the various variants, including the omnipresent Delta. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell 

Yes Jeanne.  Such a beautiful statement from King.  

I also just read that Neil Cavuto , anchor at Fox News who also has M.S. and just tested positive for Covid today. 

Here is his VERY powerful statement.  I give him a lot of credit for making it.

"While I'm somewhat stunned by this news, doctors tell me I'm lucky as well," Cavuto said in a statement released through Fox News Media. "Had I not been vaccinated, and with all my medical issues, this would be a far more dire situation. It's not, because I did and I'm surviving this because I did."
"I hope anyone and everyone gets that message loud and clear. Get vaccinated, for yourself and everyone around you," Cavuto added. "Everyone wins, except maybe my wife, who thought I was back in the city for good for live shows. Maybe not so fast now."
 
 


   
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@jeanne-mayell 

About the boosters...this might help.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22687728/delta-specific-booster-vaccine-covid



   
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@cc21

You asked in a prediction  thread about omicron and about getting a sinking feeling.  I thought I would respond in the Covid thread here.

I do not have a good feeling about it.  It appears that the many experts and local governments are also very concerned. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell From what I read, I knew it was the original formula but what needed approval was the dosage amount (same dosage for adults) how long after the first two shots should one get it (6 months), how effective mixing vaccines would be. I originally had the J&J but got the Moderna because it had the highest effectiveness.And I was able to get the Moderna the day after all people over 65 were allowed to get it. The original formula seems effective against the original form of Covid, the Delta variant and the group of other variants coming from other countries. However, with the new Omicron the concern seems to be that this variant is not like the other variants and the vaccine may not be able to protect us from it. I sure do hope they are wrong.\

From NPR:

The variant, currently denominated B.1.1.529, reportedly could have far more mutations than those displayed by the delta variant, which became the dominant variant in most of the world over the summer.

It's not clear yet whether the mutations make this variant more infectious or whether it causes more severe illness, but researchers say the high number of mutations to the "spike proteins" — the focus of a body's immune response — may make it more able to get past the body's defenses.



   
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@lovendures Thank you for reposting here and adding your feelings. Yes, many scientists and governments seem to be very concerned. What raised my antenna is the information on it that literally seems to be changing by the minute. Everyone will be keeping a close eye. I am all for being cautious and not panicking, but definitely this is one to watch.



   
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The South African doctor who first reported the Omicron variant says that, in her patients, symptoms were mild.   Not that we can let our guard down, but it is an optimistic bit of info. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/south-african-doctor-raised-alarm-omicron-variant-says-symptoms/



   
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@ana Thanks for finding this. Hoping this is a case for optimism! 



   
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From The Washington Post:

“This is the highest level of alert we’ve ever been on, by far,” since devising the initial batch of vaccines last year, said Stephen Hoge, Moderna’s president. “What’s most scary about this virus is it’s managed to put all of its greatest hits into one [omicron] variant, and then has added maybe 10 mutations that we don’t even know what to think of yet.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/covid-variant-fallout-omnicron/2021/11/27/8c6e0548-4f02-11ec-a7b8-9ed28bf23929_story.html

So...yeah...UGH.

But...if the cases are mild and there are additional reports which suggest most cases are indeed mild,  then this is hopeful.  Yay!

Israel is not laying games and shutting down their entire country to foreign travelers.

So the world is on edge.

For anyone looking at our predictions to hopefully get an understanding on where Covid will be headed this spring and beyond, I offer this thought.  Reading the possible future of Covid is really tricky.  

Many of the intuitive members on our site foresaw the pandemic on a RTFN in the Fall of 2019 for the then upcoming year of 2020.  We even commented about it right after  the Read the Future Night  session and in follow-up emails.  Our predictions have been a bit all over the place after Covid became entrenched in our world however.  That doesn't mean we are getting these current Covid predictions wrong however.  Rather, I believe many of us are seeing what is happening in our own communities which might be different than what the reality is like in a different part of the country or world.  I believe Jeanne may have once made reference to this as well.

Many of us saw school back in session for in-person learning a year ago, others saw schools were still online.  Both those visions were accurate it simply  boiled down to what city or country the intuitive person was picking up upon.     Complicating matters, some red state governors refused to require masks in schools and businesses even during intense outbreaks while more blue state governors closed down schools and retail operations with only minor and moderate outbreaks and required mask wearing in public.  Because of this, getting a good read on how Covid would fair in the greater U.S. or around the globe was tricky.  

I suggest we should think of Covid predictions as a snapshot of a certain place and time, not a true reading of the greater world or even a true take on how covid is fairing in a city or country unless there are other clues.   I remember getting a vision during a RTFN this summer with prickly spikes coming out of a mask and felt it had to do with California.  That led me to believe that there was going to be a situation involving CA which was going to be "prickly" about wearing masks or about a virus spike.   The "spikes"  were the additional  information which really caught my eye. In the predicted time frame  Los Angeles ended up seeing  a huge spike in cases and additionally  the Sheriff in L. A. country refused to enforce the mask mandate was had been put in place.  This was a prediction about a certain region, not the entire U.S. or the world. 

So how is the world going to fair next spring or fall with regard to Covid?

That is a tricky question to answer.

 Perhaps @jeanne-mayell or some of our other  members might wish to chime in on this topic. @deetoo @bluebell @Baba @teriz @gradualgoddess?  Anyone else?  I would love to hear additional thoughts.

 

 



   
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@lovendures I am so glad you made this post to help explain how we read the future and especially how to read the future of Covid-19. I can only respond to it in pieces since you have tackled the entire subject of consciousness which is vast. 

You hit on so many important points. Here's one: "I suggest we should think of Covid predictions as a snapshot of a certain place and time, not a true reading of the greater world or even a true take on how covid is fairing in a city or country unless there are other clues."  

I agree and am excited that you have noticed more nuance in how consciousness works, because understanding prediction means understanding the little understood concept of consciousness.

So when we read something in the future, it is as if we are on a train traveling to a place and through time. We open the windows and see, smell, feel, hear what's going on there. It's a pocket of consciousness, like the local weather at that time and in that place,  that the reader has sensed for many possible reasons.

To make it more complicated, our particular individual visions vary by our own subjective thinking.  Someone who has been traumatized is more likely to pick up fear-based visions of the future that fit their trauma. Someone who is reads extreme right-wing media is more likely to pick up the perspective of that group in the future. Someone who is progressive and cares deeply about the earth or about immigration, education, healthcare, women's rights and more, is more likely to pick up that group's concerns in the future.  I see this every time we do Read the Future and I know the background of the person who is participating. 

So, when we read anything, we are reading our own subjective future, the future we are experiencing as individuals during specific times and places where we focus.

We can try to control our focus and strain out our individual biases by using Read the Future night method, but as you pointed out there are still limitations.  We may accurately see that people are going back to work and the pandemic is lessoning if the media are indicating that business and life is opening up. But then new variants happened and things closed up again. 

Another reason Read the Future Night method is good is that it strains out a lot of personal bias.  It forces people to focus freely with no particular subject in mind on what they will be thinking about at a certain point in the future. 

Some people here, however, are able to transcend their own future views, by not concerning themselves with understanding what they are seeing.  If they don't know what they are seeing then they don't put a personal spin on what they are feeling or seeing. So they are more accurate.

Often we see events in riddles, metaphors or symbols, so in this way we can see something we can't believe we could be seeing or something for which we have no prior experience. Great example is when @PamP shared her November 2019 New York City dream of two Chinese stone dragons coming to life when two buses passed by them on the highway. The dragons then entered the water and swam towards the city, and then it started snowing blood.  We knew it was some kind of attack on NYC but because we were not thinking about a pandemic at the time, most of us ignored it. I was stunned by the dream and very afraid, which is an intuitive sign that I knew it was important and because I have someone I deeply care about living in NYC.  But I did not think of a pandemic.

We are sensing the future all the time, but the problem is making ourselves aware of what we are sensing. In 2015, I made a big deal in front of my town government of how we needed to protect our Board of Health from outside business interests. I spoke publicly about the danger, if we were to have a dangerous epidemic, of allowing a higher government authority to overrule our Board of Health's quarantine orders. I had no idea a pandemic was coming but something in me did sense it was important to stand up and make a big issue about this. So we are intuitive without realizing much of the time.

 When we first heard about the epidemic in China, I wasn't worried. But I had had that incredibly prescient vision of a graph back in 2013 of a crashing event occurring at the end of 2019 and then worsening through 2020.  I thought is was the markets, then as time proceeded I decided it was a measure of the Collective well being.  

That vision which was a graph, which I drew and put on this website, shows we return to new highs by 2028. Since I am certain now that it depicted the Collective response to the pandemic which was a worldwide shutdown, then it makes sense to me that we will recover from this pandemic or at least learn to manage living with it.

This subject is something we will be discussing in my upcoming Jan 3 class Become Deeply Intuitive. Anyone who is interested in this subject should consider taking the class. 

 



   
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@lovendures 

   This is very astute. I do see the problems regionally. Not just in Covid but distribution, grids, economics, and weather. Some areas have held onto outdated technology and power sources. I also see how we all create our own reality. While many have had a very tumultuous time during covid. Many have gone inward and experienced much growth. I'm giving Jeanne's circle of light meditations a huge nod here. I say this with much compassion for all those brave souls who have served on the front lines and lost loved ones. Your example has opened the hearts of many, brought families together, and been a catalyst for change. Please know you are honored and loved. Many years ago when Jeanne saw the change of power reverting from a national level to a more local level I had assumed this power was political. Now I wonder if it's love and light. 

    I digress, Yes it does seem to be regional. It also seems like within those regions some entities are affected/protected more than others.



   
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Hey guys!  I am back!?  I am feeling uneasy about this variant, Supreme Court, gerrymandering, and some stuff going on at home.  So the way to regain control and feel more at ease is to understand it all and what is to come....  so here I am!!  I look forward to reading your posts about how we think this is all going to play out...



   
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Posted by: @teriz

@lovendures 

   This is very astute. I do see the problems regionally. Not just in Covid but distribution, grids, economics, and weather. Some areas have held onto outdated technology and power sources. I also see how we all create our own reality. While many have had a very tumultuous time during covid. Many have gone inward and experienced much growth. I'm giving Jeanne's circle of light meditations a huge nod here. I say this with much compassion for all those brave souls who have served on the front lines and lost loved ones. Your example has opened the hearts of many, brought families together, and been a catalyst for change. Please know you are honored and loved. Many years ago when Jeanne saw the change of power reverting from a national level to a more local level I had assumed this power was political. Now I wonder if it's love and light. 

    I digress, Yes it does seem to be regional. It also seems like within those regions some entities are affected/protected more than others.

@Teriz I am tagging @Jeanne-mayell so she can she what you have so beautifully written.  Yes the Circle of Light Meditations are a beautiful experience and have done wonders for us all one attend. 

Interesting on your thoughts on the power structure reverting to the local level.  I had not thought of the love and light aspect.  That is is an amazing connection.  That would be wonderful. 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts Teri.  I always appreciate hearing your thoughts on things.

 



   
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