@jewels So glad to hear. So very glad!
I have twice thought I was getting Covid and now I realize I have allergies that I never knew I had before. They can give me that post nasal drip cough and even a slight sore throat some days. Then there is the empathic illness that comes when I focus on people who are sick. It doesn't last though. So many here are empaths.
@jeanne-mayell Thank you, Jeanne! I do wonder where this flu came from. I'm rarely ill.
Speaking of empaths, is it especially hard for empaths to put pets down? I cant bear putting down our old kitty tomorrow, even if it is for the best. It feels very wrong.
@jewels
We had to put down my favorite kitty in February - there's a post over on the pet thread with a pic. We were lucky it was pre-pandemic and we were able to do it at home, so slightly less stressful than usual. And it is very hard for us empath/intuitive types, BUT I have developed a better sense of their suffering over time. We knew this last cat was terminal (cancer), and I promised him that I'd only let him suffer a maximum of ONE day, and that's exactly what happened. We woke up that morning and knew he was in pain, he was not eating and barely conscious, so I medicated him heavily for the pain and called the euthanasia vet, and he crossed the rainbow bridge at around 5pm that day. So one $*tty day is all he suffered.
Hang in there, it's never easy. And feel better.
Getting back on topic of COVID-19 and the keeping of social distance, wearing a mask and the reminders to "wash,wash,wash" your hands as we all hear over and over again.
How many of us actually even wash them as we should? Let's look at these British polls and their findings beginning with the basics. Which simply starts with washing your hands after using the bathroom:
"Hands down, men worse at bathroom hygiene that prevents coronavirus - Reuters
Health officials around the world advise that deliberate, regular handwashing is one of the best weapons against the virus which causes a flu-like respiratory illness that can kill and has spread to around 80 countries.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's online fact sheet "Handwashing: A corporate activity," cites a 2009 study that finds "only 31% of men and 65% of women washed their hands" after using a public restroom."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-handwashing/hand
s-down-men-worse-at-bathroom-hygiene-that-prevents-coronavirus-idUSKBN20S2N7
Another more recent post COVID-19 study founded among thousands polled that 12 % of adults still don't wash hands after using a public bathroom.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's online fact sheet "Handwashing: A corporate activity," cites a 2009 study that finds "only 31% of men and 65% of women washed their hands" after using a public restroom."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-handwashing/hand
s-down-men-worse-at-bathroom-hygiene-that-prevents-coronavirus-idUSKBN20S2N7Another more recent post COVID-19 study founded among thousands polled that 12 % of adults still don't wash hands after using a public bathroom.
what what what
I mean...
I just...
I...
I think my brain just short-circuited
Good Grief!
The study found 14.6% of men did not wash their hands at all after using the bathroom and 35.1% wet their hands but did not use soap, compared to 7.1% and 15.1% of women, respectively.
I am a broken record at our house about hand washing. One of the conscious decisions I needed to make on our recent trip was how long to stay in the public restroom to wash my hands. Should I wash quickly with soap and water so that I could leave quicker and avoid the air or to I breathe restroom air longer and wash for a longer time, sometimes 2 twice. Usually I did a longer time followed by hand gel when getting back into the car. I also brought a liquid soap pump to the hotel room so that we would not need to share a bar of soap. Bars of soap at a communal sink gross me out, even if it is my family. Our family also wipes down groceries when we bring them home, a learned Covid practice. I wonder if that practice will change when Covid 19 is less of a threat.
Has anybody come across a study which indicates that there is less transfer from other spring and summer viruses than normal right now? I was thinking of Jewels getting sick with non-Covid-19 ailment and I thought how much more difficult it must be to catch a normal virus. I know a few other people who have had a regular type of flu recently. That would be rather scary. It will be even more so once kids enter classrooms.
@lovendures
This is why we never ever ever want to shake anyone's hand ever ever again.
And if we ever invite anyone to dinner ever again, we announce "time to wash up before dinner is served" and then after that "we have no self-serve finger foods here and please use tongs for everything including raw vegetable tray items and bread and biscuits!"
I wonder how many things will be a permanent change because of the pandemic?
If we do not shake hands anymore and likely we will not, I wonder what the new form of greeting will become?
I love your "call to wash up" before a meal. That is a great way to remind people politely.
Make sure you get your Vitamin D and check your levels with a blood test from the doctor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdc7T2UTHBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv4iINxf4IM&feature=em-uploademail
I love this podcast/video series also very informative, very technical also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Vy6fgaBPE&t=3s
The videos have links to journal articles also.
I've always hated shaking hands, even pre-pandemic, for the obvious reason that so many peoples hands are not clean!
I've seen countless women breeze out of public bathrooms without washing. Then they touch the doorknob, who knows how much stuff in the store-YUCK.
Handwashing is fast and simple and sanitary. I don't understand it. It makes you wonder what their kitchens and home bathrooms look like.
Seems it couldn't stand it that Dr Fauci announced there may be a safe and efficacious vaccine as early as October more likely November... and I think this ties in to the 4-12-20 feelings I had that the first vaccine would cause more harm than good.
@journeywithme2 yeah the thing is that the vaccine has to be at least 51% effective. So 51% of people will get the vaccine and it will work for them but for the other 49% it may not be effective and they still have to social distance stay home which is a lot of people. The other problem is that some of these vaccines are only targeting specific parts of the virus, Moderna targets the whole spike protein, but Pfizer only targets the contact parts of the spike protein. There are differences in response also SARS-1 survivors have cells that can fight SARS 2 called memory T cells, these cells can recognize SARS-2 because there are similarities other than just the spike protein. The spike protein can mutate much more quickly than other parts of the virus, so it's possible that if these vaccines work they won't work for long. On the other hand when people get SARS 2 they have antibodies that target all parts of the virus. So there is a vaccine being developed in Japan apparently that might do that so we'll have to look into that(at least more than one part of the virus).
https://youtu.be/mWB8LbeXML8?t=3125
https://youtu.be/wyLXZmbkZl8?t=3191
Oh yeah there might be a hit somewhere I have to look for it. There is a segment of people who have natural immunity to Covid, but they didn't get it from getting SARS-1 or a human Corona virus. Apparently there is a corona virus that dogs can get that causes stomach problems for dogs, that is totally different from SARS or human corona virus but have similar parts to SARS-2, that people can get without sickness and protects them from SARS-2, I just have to find it though.
Yes.. there is and was a corona virus vaccine for dogs... it is a different form. We in the veterinary industry had discussed if any of us would have an immunity from years of exposure giving that live vaccine in the early days and the killed virus in later days. There is also a limit on selling that vaccine today as some people were buying it in hopes it would help them. It won't... veterinary professionals have and are catching covid-19 and getting ill and/or dying from it. There are cases of dogs getting COvid-19 from their owners also. https://www.thedailybeast.com/do-not-take-your-dogs-coronavirus-vaccine There are two forms of corona virus in canines... a GI one and a respiratory one. Many animals get some form of corona viruses : https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/2020-02/AVMA-Coronavirus-Taxonomy-Notes.pdf
All of this being said? I would take Dr Fauci's recommendations over Trump's any day.
@jeanne-mayell Columbia Virology professor, and some other professors from UMich, UofFl, and guests. They go over papers, and such. I like them the most, because when they are wrong they say they are wrong but when they are right they can explain it.Oh and they fight fake news in their question and answer parts when they get weird questions. Medcram is essentially Khan Acedemy for doctors and medical students. Dr. Campbell is a professor of Nursing in England that just makes things more simple and straight forward.
Robert O'Brien: Trump's national security adviser tests positive for Covid-19 - CNNPolitics
O'Brien is the highest ranking person in close contact with Trump twice a day. He most likely caught it from his own daughter who also tested positive.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/politics/robert-obrien-tests-positive-covid/index.html
I am flipping the f* out right now.
My husband, who does wear a mask outside the house, was on his evening walk just now. He got bitten by a dog that belongs to a homeless person. It drew blood.
He came right home, and I washed it with hot water and soap, and put some Mupirocin (that I have for my cat with pemphigus) on it, and I sent him off to urgent care.
They are giving him a tetanus shot, but said they want to give him penicillin. He's allergic to it, but they said he "might be ok". I threw a text fit - these are not normal times and I don't want to have to call 911 to rush him to an ER if he reacts. I asked him - so should I just put my Epi-pen by your dinner plate???? He agreed to push back on that.
Now I'm having a text fit to ask the UC doc if he/we should get tested for COVID in a few weeks, since we know it jumps back and forth between humans and dogs. I doubt he will.... So now I'm telling him - OK if we're not both dead in 8-10 weeks we'll know YOU were right not to worry.
SHEESH! What is it with men and their inability to acknowledge danger and be proactive???? I don't walk around our neighborhood at all since before the pandemic - it's not safe. And really he should have called 911 on the spot. Yes, they would've euthanized the dog but he said it looked like it was starving, so it may not be long for this world anyway. He didn't even take a pic of the dog/person.
We don't have the ability to isolate him in the garage yet. FML...
I don’t know how Florida open up schools. Children hospitalization are up in Florida by 23%.
On July 16, the state had a total of 23,170 children ages 17 and under who had tested positive since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the Florida Department of Health. By July 24, that number jumped to 31,150.
That's a 34% increase in new cases among children in eight days.
And more children in Florida are requiring hospitalization. As of July 16, 246 children had been hospitalized with coronavirus. By July 24, that number had jumped to 303.
That's a 23% increase in child Covid-19 hospitalizations in eight days.
If I was in Florida, I would not send my child. As it is I live on Long Island and am scared to send my kids to school albeit 2 times a week. I am afraid that they will get it and bring it home. There is no remote learning from home. That is not an option. You have 2 days in school and 3 remote learning. One of my boys is on the spectrum who needs his therapy. Thank god for Zoom. And I am worried even though Our numbers are low as of right now thanks to Cuomo. So I can’t imagine sending children to school in Florida.