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I am intrigued by new revelations about UAPs and non human intelligence from an eminent scientist, military pilots and defense intelligence agents.  I’ve been down an unexpected rabbit hole the past few weeks and have watched interviews and read books that have upended my world view.

A month ago, Luis Elizondo’s book Imminent was released.  Luis Elizondo had a long career in military intelligence and served on the Pentagon’s UAP task force.  A few years ago, he gave up that career because of continued Department of Defense suppression of evidence about UAPs and contact with non human intelligence.  According to Elizondo, congress has held hearings on this subject, but the bulk of evidence is still being suppressed.  This view is backed up by Christopher Mellon who worked with Elizondo in defense intelligence. Mellon is the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations and later for Security and Information Operations. He formerly served as the Staff Director of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

What surprised me about the Elizondo book and interviews is that he talks about intuition, psychic abilities and remote viewing.  He has first hand experience with these phenomena and he’s not alone.  I also recently discovered interviews with Dr. Garry Nolan, a Nobel prize nominated scientist/physician at Stanford.  He also discusses UAPs, non human intelligence and the same psychic abilities of intuition and remote viewing.  Nolan says that psychic ability runs in his family and had his own personal encounter with non human intelligence.  Nolan has founded SOL at Stanford, a foundation focused on research of UAPs and associated topics.

Another surprising discovery for me is that scientists and military personnel who are investigating these UAP and non human intelligence are considering the possibility that these phenomena are not from other parts of the universe but rather are part of another dimension of Earth.  

I am including links to interviews with Luis Elizondo and Dr. Gary Nolan below.  There are more interviews with these two on different podcasts on YouTube that are even lengthier, two to three hours, but these interviews below are more succinct.  And there are more interviews with other scientists and military personnel and pilots who share their experiences and more.  If any of you have time and the interest to watch these, I would love to know what you think.  

https://youtu.be/wgM5V44eQHU

https://youtu.be/XR0JtbuLhPo



   
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 CC21
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@bluebelle Oh, I am so glad you posted about this! It is a big area of interest of mine as well. As I have mentioned previously on the Forum, I work from home and often have the TV on in the background. I tend to watch many of the shows that address the UAP phenomenon and have seen Luis Elizondo on them. I have not read his book - will have to look that one up! I am not familiar with Dr. Nolan, so I am curious to watch the video you linked to. 

Many of the shows I watch are on the History Channel. On an episode of William Shatner's The UneXplained from 2019, remote viewer Dr. Angela Thompson Smith was featured. She learned remote viewing from Dr. Paul H. Smith, who worked "for seven years in the government’s Star Gate remote viewing program at Ft. Meade, MD (from September 1983 to August 1990). Starting in 1984, he became one of only five Star Gate personnel to be personally trained as remote viewers by the legendary founders of remote viewing, Ingo Swann and Dr. Harold E. Puthoff at SRI-International. Paul was the primary author of the government RV program’s CRV training manual, and served as theory instructor for new CRV trainee personnel, as well as source recruiting officer, unit security officer, and unit historian. He went on to teach controlled remote viewing to such well-known remote viewing personalities as Lyn Buchanan, Mel Riley and David Morehouse.  Paul is credited with over a thousand training and operational remote viewing sessions during his time with Star Gate."

Links for Dr. Angela Thompson:

https://starworksusa.com/presenters/angela-thompson-smith-ph-d#sthash.hTfBKxVt.dpbs

https://mindwiseconsulting.com/

Link for Paul H. Smith: https://rviewer.com/paul-h-smith/

The federal government really focused on these type of skills and documents have been declassified in recent years.

There were just Congressional Hearings on UAPs last year. Listening to the testimony, and realizing these guys are under oath, is astonishing. 

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190390376/ufo-hearing-non-human-biologics-uaps

I feel like I am rambling, but I do believe there is much that the government has known for years that is slowly coming out to the public. Think about the "tic-tac" UAP videos from Air Force pilots in recent years. I heard it speculated on one show that they are trying to acclimate the public on the existence of UAPs and aliens so that when contact is made in a bigger way, people will have a clue. That makese sense to me. When I first started learning about all of this, it was worldview-upending to consider at first. If you haven't even thought about it or think of it superficially as "goofy alien talk", think of how utterly wild and scary it would be to see this being revealed in a sudden way?! It takes time to get used to the idea! 

I am very curious to hear what others may think as well. 



   
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Also, one of the more fascinating aspects of UAPs is while we normally think of them as aerial phenomenon, there are many instances of them coming in and out of the ocean. If you think of how very vast the ocean is and how we have only explored a small fraction of it, it is entirely reasonable that it could be one of the easiest places for UAPs to conceal themselves.

https://phys.org/news/2023-09-ufos-tracked-skies.html

"If I were investigating an alien planet like Earth, the ocean would definitely be the place to start. Not only does it comprise the vast majority of living space and living organisms on Earth, but it also is comparatively unpopulated by the one species, humans, that seems intent on destroying the planet," Helmuth says.

"It would be a great place from which to observe."



   
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@cc21 Wow, thank you for all the links.  I will explore them.  Luis Elizondo mentions in his book and interviews that he has done remote viewing himself, that remote viewing is real.  (Those of us who have participated in Jeanne’s Intuition classes know it’s real, too.)  

Elizondo and Chris Mellon were instrumental in getting those Tic Tac videos declassified and Chris Mellon leaked them to the NYT.  It was afterwards that they realized the Department of Defense was going back into secrecy mode and not releasing more information.  They were also instrumental in getting whistleblower protection for military personnel who talk about their experiences with UAPs.  The two decided their best course of action was to go public with what they know.  There are people in the Pentagon who have tried to ruin Elizondo’s reputation and disparage him.  

Another academic who has studied UAPs and non human intelligence is Diana Pasulka, a professor of religious studies at The University of North Carolina at Wilmington.

https://www.amazon.com/Encounters-Experiences-Nonhuman-Intelligences-Pasulka/dp/1250879566



   
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@bluebelle Now this is interesting and thank you for this info!  I'm always looking for this stuff.   Many years ago, when I was pregnant with my daughter I went through a personal crisis.  The catholic church had messed me up pretty bad and I though I was never "a believer" I still felt like I was missing "something" in my life.  At the time I think I was looking for something, anything that I could believe in.  Thinking maybe I just needed to try other religions.  Long story short, I spent many years trying out figure out where I fit and it was never in any kind of human religion.  I find them all to be so critical of what they don't understand and of other's beliefs.  Too closed minded for me.  So I moved away from religion altogether and just started looking at cultures and what others may call kooky stuff - LOL!  I learned, OH did I learn about so many other cultures and beliefs and their histories.  I took a little bit from everything I learned and discarded what didn't "feel" right to me.  There are so many things we have yet to understand about ourselves. Humans are not all there is to life in this vast universe.  And what people can do with their minds, we haven't even begun to tap into that.  My hope is that once we get past this horrible time in all of our lives, we can move forward, more enlightened.  Im looking forward to getting away from the archic knowledge humans have been muttering through-to the expansion of the human mind.



   
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@bluebelle I am watching the first video, and I do not find the man who is interviewed to be believable. I can see that he is acting. Sorry, I wish I could give you a different opinion.



   
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@westie Actually, I understand what you’re observing and I understand your skepticism.  I’ve seen this guy on different shows and he looks (I’m sorry) a bit wacky.  It wasn’t until I read his book and realized what notable people are vouching for him, that I saw him differently.  But I get what you’re thinking.  Christopher Mellon comes off a lot more polished and professional in his interviews and these two have worked together for years to get Defense videos of UABs declassified and they’ve worked to get whistleblower laws passed by Congress to enable people to come forward.  It’s all very interesting to me.  I wonder what you think of the interview with Dr. Gary Nolan.  Thanks for the feedback!



   
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