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(@mamaly)
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@polarberry Definitely would like to hear how it turns out. My experience is that sometimes it takes a little less time and sometimes a little more depending on the oven. It is the color I always look for - the 'sand' color. (not white sand - but more of a very light brown sand).

Good luck! If you're interested there is a great Youtuber called "What's for Tea" that does a Scottish food (and other food) cooking vlog She is a Scot living on the Isle of Arran I believe. (She always shows scenes of Arran at the end of the videos). https://www.youtube.com/c/WhatsForTea/videos

She's super pleasant and charming to listen to and she does some fun videos on traditional Scottish foods like scotch pies, trifles, etc. Here is her video on shortbread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPA50b_iyvQ

 



   
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My 27th great Grandfather married the sister of King Robert the Bruce, for anyone with ancestry in Scotland it is absolutely fascinating to see how you could be connected to Scottish Royalty. 

Cool! My maiden name is Bruce. We go back to Robert the Bruce through the Stewarts. I bet there are millions who go back to him. We have a tartan too. I opened a thread here last week on ancestry and so many in this community trace back to the Mayflower. I do not, although my husband does and so do my kids. My big claim to fame is Robert the Bruce. Ha ha!  

I noticed that in May 2016 researchers in Glasgow found a genetic marker that identifies direct descendants to Robert the Bruce in men. Here's another source from University of Strathclyde. 



   
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(@polarberry)
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Cool; I'll check her out, thanks!

Approximately eleven minutes to go, looks good through the door but don't want to pull it open to check to avoid heat loss.

When my daughter got back from Scotland, she asked me if I know what Black Pudding is. I said yes, why, did they serve it to you? She said they were served it the final night, which had a traditional Scottish evening theme, and she tried to eat it out of politeness but thought she might get sick if she kept on.

I told her, "Well, we have Spam, so..." ? 

UPDATE-just pulled it out. It is the color of beach sand and smells so, so good! Hope I can wait to eat it or I am going to burn the h*ll out of my mouth. Mamaly, thank you very much for the clarification of the ingredient amounts. I had found one recipe that called for baking soda and that struck me as wrong. How can something with three ingredients smell so amazing??



   
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Love black pudding! (My husband, not so much ? ). But I also like the taste of haggis too and have been known to order some for a Burn's night. (I order from the Scottish Bakery in Detroit - Ackroyd's). 

Genealogy is great. My maiden name is actually Wallace. (Father/Grandfather) (I tease my husband and tell him I loved him a lot to give up my maiden name for his last name - which is hard to pronounce and chock-full of Eastern European consonants, like 'Y' and 'Z'!). My husband's first name is William - so when we found out we were having a boy, I looked at my husband and I said...I have to do it....Our son's first and middle name is William Wallace!

My grandfather (Wallace) was born in Galston Scotland ("Wallace" country), but then moved as a young boy to Stirling where his father was a manager at the coal mine there. (Stirling also happens to be the location of the Wallace monument, as the famous battle of Stirling Bridge was fought there.) My grandfather and his brothers used to do boy scouts in the early days of scouting at Stirling Castle.

My grandmother was a McIntosh and born in Greenock, Scotland. Her father was a shipwright and worked for a time for Harland & Wolff shipyards in Belfast, Ireland. We think he was working there when the Titanic was being built, although we're not sure. My grandmother definitely remembered the Titanic sinking, although she was probably only about 6 years old when it sank. (She says her mother woke them up that morning with the news.) Interestingly, my grandmother's family was from the Isle of Skye. Now, Skye isn't known for the McIntosh clan (they're more from the Inverness area), but the records definitely show them there in the late 1700s (and I've got some DNA connections on the Isle of Skye as well). Still trying to figure out how a small group of McIntoshes ended up on Skye!

Anyway - it is super interesting stuff!

Kindly - Mamaly



   
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@elainesk, eek Bristol, yeah that is not the greatest place to live compared to where your son is now;-) So happy to read your story. I haven't been to Fife but know the history due to my studies. Robert the Bruce was quite the character. Hope the Scots can stand tall again.

Tracing family/ancestry can be quite amazing. I have not gotten further than 1400, but it gives one a sense of belonging, doesn't it? To know where you came from?



   
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WOW! I just checked out Ackroyd's-did not know about them-and I am in hog heaven. I will be ordering a lot. And I can buy haggis. Oh joy. ? 

Am eating the shortbread now. First slice plain; next slice with blueberry jam, if I get a second slice. Family just discovered.



   
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@jeanne-mayell I'll check that link out! I think because there were far fewer population in Scotland and many were Clan members and Castle Royalty that if you are fortunate to have a well known surname from Scotland then chances are you will find you are a descendent of Scottish Royalty.  I wish I had started my ancestry journey before my dear Mum passed, it is through my maternal Grandfather where our McGregor connections than land up connecting to Robert the Bruce.  Andrew de Moray whose son Andrew married Robert the Bruce's sister Christina de Bruis (Bruce) was the unsung hero at the Battle of Stirling Bridge, he was the guy instrumental in the win of that battle with William Wallace, sadly he was badly injured and died not many weeks after.  Christina was Andrew's 2nd wife. 
The Royalty and blue bloods of Scotland have many branches leading to them from many surnames, they had several wives/husbands and plenty children.  My road to my Bruce connection was through the McGregor clan, where the infamous Rob Roy McGregor is my 2nd cousin 11 x removed, James the Iv banished the surname McGregor and it was 170 years before anyone born a McGregor who had to be renamed, could ever use the surname McGregor again and it was thanks to Rob Roy McGregor.  The McGregors were a parcel of rogues at the time of banishment of surname and were hunted down and jailed or hanged if they were still using the McGregor name. Such a rich history, a rugged wild history of Scotland and the bloodlines of Scots are spread far and wide.  Scots kids for many decades were only taught British history which was 99% English history, we were clueless of how rich our Scottish history and Clans were unless taught by our families, our education was controlled by London so when SNP came to power in 2007, the first thing was making sure Scottish history was taught in our schools far more than the minimal amount we received. Many of us are learning so much about our history now, for the young Scots who are around 74% of 16-34 year olds are pro Independent and considering the many things inflicted on Scotland and its people by the powers in London over the centuries which was left out of the older generation's history lessons, the young Scots are wide awake and know how badly Scotland suffered but also I think it has stirred in them the want to return to a Scotland that had balls and not the underdog of England. x

http://www.sath.org.uk/edscot/www.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/warsofindependence/andrewmoray/index.html



   
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(@elainesk)
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@polarberry  I have never had the willpower to stop at one piece of shortbread, I find it hard to put down the packet......lol. 



   
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@mamaly The Wallace Monument is one of the most stunning pieces of architecture in Scotland, to be standing in the grounds of Stirling Castle looking at the Monument is breathtaking, I wish I was younger and fitter to walk up the many, many steps to the top of the monument.  The Wallace Sword is on display on the first floor.  
Not so much nowadays but in the past there was a pattern to naming your children, my Mother has first name of her Mother and her Great Grandmother but her middle names are the surnames in our close family branches.  First names though I knew they were carried on from Fathers & Grandfathers but did not know the full system used in olden times.  Also if a child died the next male or female would take the name of the male or female that had died, something we would not do in modern times in respect of the dead child.  Interesting though https://www.findmypast.co.uk/blog/help/traditional-scottish-naming-patterns



   
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@moonbeam

I was fortunate to travel to Skye  with my daughter in April of 2019.  It was the best trip ever.  We saw the fairy pools and so many other jaw dropping  and inspiring places. I would go again in a heartbeat.

Hope yo get to travel there one day soon.



   
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