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(@jeanne-mayell)
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I tuned into the GA election. @tgraf, you can open your eyes.  

I got first this:  I heard, Whoooooop! which is some intense, concentrated glee coming from the blue side.  Good sign for blues.

Then I threw cards in all kinds of ways: How will Ossoff/Warnock/Loeffler/Perdue feel this Wednesday? This Saturday? Mixed answers, but mostly that Ossoff is happy, Perdue is, as his name implies, lost.  (French for "lost" is Perdu). 

The Warnock/Loeffler race was harder to call. She acts confident, certain she's got this.  He's been beaten down. He is a deep, empathic soul who feels the suffering of his people. She is a perky machine. So I couldn't tell the outcome for him due to these feelings.

So I switched to checking out McConnell and zoomed to February.  McConnell's feelings will tell me what has happened to the balance of the Senate. I got a strong negative card for McConnell that he will be done.  It felt like he will be leaving. He will be home with his wife and and leaning on her for strength. 

So it is looking good right now for the dems, although I feel Warnock's vulnerability. I want to send both of them energy tomorrow night when we meet for our Circle of Light.



   
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@jeanne-mayell  If Democrats manage to win Senate control, I think that a series of constitutional amendments is in order to protect our democracy against future attacks.  We should make it illegal for anyone to seek the presidency if they don't release at least 5 years of tax returns. If they can't release any of this information you know they have something to hide. We should impose restrictions on the president's power to grant pardons as we saw extremely blatant abuses of this power under Donald Trump. We also need an amendment to force all 50 states to use non-partisan commissions for the purpose of deciding how many and where to place polling locations, setting all the rules on who is or is not qualified to vote, setting all rules on when and how people vote, and drawing all congressional and legislative districts. Over the years we have seen blatant manipulation of all these processes for partisan advantage.



   
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@5leafclover These are wonderful proposed changes. 



   
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I hope to see some sort of addressing untreated severe personality disorders in those who seek to serve in Congress. 



   
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I have to admit I am afraid. When Trump made that crazy call and said that it would be costly not to do his bidding, I felt it was a wink and a nod to his army, inciting bloodshed. I finally understand what it means when someone said, their blood ran cold. 

I pray I am wrong. I am fearful for Georgians safety this week. If I can't come to the meditation with you all, I will be setting an intention to send all I can to Georgia, my light, hope, love, and ask angels to protect them.



   
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@5leafclover I would support at least some of your proposals, but amendments require 2/3 majority in both houses, and then ratification by 3/4 of the state legislatures.  A better option for now would be to expand the SCOTUS to 13, and expand the number of federal courts overall by at least 25%, both of which could be done through the standard legislative process with simple majority votes in Congress and no involvement of the states.



   
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Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

 I feel McConnell will be leaving.

If this does come to pass, that might explain why I've been getting the feeling that the Georgia runoff is immaterial from the perspective of the other side.  As long as at least one of the races go to the D's (though I personally expect them both to go that way), the other one won't matter as much because MM will be leaving to be replaced by the D governor of Kentucky. This is important because MM was just re-elected to a full term, meaning that whoever is appointed will have a full 6 year term of service before facing re-election.



   
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@allyn

Weighing in, in my usual role as anxious pessimist.

I agree with everything you said above 100%.

I have the same sentiments and questions, but when I try to reflect or meditate on any of it, I don't get many signs of hope.

I think Jan 5 we will see one clear win (Warnock) and one muddy loss (Osoff). I think the racist voters tend also to be anti-semitic, and Osoff is Jewish, so they may override their own doubts about this election just to make sure another Jewish person does not govern them.

As for the GOP - meet me over on the Great Turning thread...



   
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Posted by: @laura-f

I think Jan 5 we will see one clear win (Warnock) and one muddy loss (Osoff)

I have to giggle a little here, not at you or your vision, but because literally seven posts above yours, @jeanne-mayell said the exact opposite in regard to who wins/loses.  On the other hand, as long as one of you is right, I don't care who it is.  I do worry a bit about Osoff's chances after the blatant lie about Loeffler campaigning with a klansman (the guy was just getting his picture taken with her, not campaigning with her), but again, as long as one of them wins, I don't much care which it is.



   
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@ghandigirl. He is going to be gone soon.

I know how frightening the man can be. But he is leaving. I still see in my mind my final tarot card for the last week of January thrown in July 2020 that I've posted a few places here, a card for each week, and they have all come true so far.  A few weeks of that six month reading are remaining and they end with him leaving. I know I can be wrong, but it's lining up the way I've seen it.  So I'm not so worried. 

But I understand how you feel, how frightening it can be. When I read that transcript, I saw first hand how sick and dangerous  he is. I've been reading Mary Trump's biography of him and how he came to be a sociopath and a pathological liar like his father.

Every awful observation people have made of him over the past four years comes out in that transcript. His behavior is con artist, thug, crime boss.  When Raffensberger makes it clear over and over again, patiently, painstakingly going through the investigations the state did, showing there is no evidence of the fraud Trump is claiming, Trump tries to frighten him, even threaten him: 

"I don’t know, look, Brad. I got to get . . . I have to find 12,000 votes... I watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality. But I mean all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it’s very dangerous for you to say that."

So the bottom line from Trump is that he needs Raffensberger to hand him, just give him fraudulent 12,000 votes so he can win Georgia. And then he threatens him. That's extortion. That breaks a lot of laws.  

Raffensberger is a hero. And Trump lost the battle with him. 

 

 



   
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Posted by: @ghandigirl

I have to admit I am afraid. When Trump made that crazy call and said that it would be costly not to do his bidding, I felt it was a wink and a nod to his army, inciting bloodshed. I finally understand what it means when someone said, their blood ran cold. 

I pray I am wrong. I am fearful for Georgians safety this week. If I can't come to the meditation with you all, I will be setting an intention to send all I can to Georgia, my light, hope, love, and ask angels to protect them.

I had a similar thought while listening to the call, but it really depends on who leaked the recording of the call. Was it Trump? Or was it Raffensperger? Do we know? If the former, then you and I seem to be correct in our assessment. If the latter, then it was simply a desperate Trump trying to manipulate Raffensperger one last time into de-certifying GA, and maybe he also made similar calls to other states with close election results. 



   
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@yofisofi It was Raffensberger.  

Officials in the secretary of state’s office recorded Saturday’s call, and Mr. Raffensperger told his advisers that he did not want to release a transcript or a recording unless the president attacked state officials or misrepresented what had been discussed, according to a person familiar with his direction.

As expected, that attack came in a tweet on Sunday morning, in which Mr. Trump claimed that Mr. Raffensperger “was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!”

In a response on Twitter, Mr. Raffensperger wrote: “Respectfully, President Trump: What you’re saying is not true. The truth will come out.” The recording of the call was made public several hours later.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/03/us/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 



   
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I tuned into the GA election. @dannyboy, you can open your eyes.  

I got first this:  I heard, Whoooooop! which is some intense, concentrated glee coming from the blue side.  Then I threw cards in all kinds of ways: How will Ossoff/Warnock/Loeffler/Perdue feel this Wednesday? This Saturday? Mixed answers, but mostly that Ossoff is happy, Perdue is, as his name implies, lost.  

The Warnock/Loeffler race was harder to call. She acts confident, certain she's got this.  He's been beaten down. He is a deep, empathic soul who feels the suffering of his people. She is a perky machine.

So I switched to checking out McConnell and zoomed to February.  I feel McConnell will be leaving. He will be home with his wife and and leaning on her for strength. 

So it is looking good right now for the dems, although I worry a little for Warnock. I want to send both of them energy tomorrow night when we meet for our Circle of Light, but especially Warnock who feels more vulnerable to me. 

@dannyboy I don’t know how you found my read to be the exact opposite of Laura’s. I saw a whoop coming from the Dems which means blue wins. I must not have been clear so sorry about that. I saw that it is looking good for the Dems. That McConnell will be leaving because he lost his majority.  Yes I feel Warnock is more vulnerable but bottom line is that Dems came out ahead during my reading.  



   
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@jeanne-mayell I think you meant to reply to someone else - I don't think I posted anything.  :-) 

Awhile back I posted that I threw cards and saw Warnock win and Ossof lose.  And then when I threw cards a week later, I got Ossof winning and Warnock losing - which really made me sad because as bad as Perdue is, Loeffler is the devil incarnate in my mind.  And after that all I got on mediations and card readings was the psychic equivalent of "Ask again later" on the magic 8 ball which leads me to believe any light we can send both of these gents in the next 24 hours would be good.

I'm deeply intrigued by the McConnell leaving reading - was the time table for that the last week in January?  Oh, let it be so!  Let that light that has completely taken over by mid-decade begin tomorrow with a slim but stable senate majority for the incoming class!  And then, let's move forward to do the work that so desperately needs to be done!

Yeah, I'm still a wreck right now you guys :-).



   
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@jeanne-mayell, I've been sensing for some time one blue win in Georgia, with the other either a "no" or undecided.  I few people have posted similar predictions.  But even if Warnock or Ossoff loses, it's not over.  We won't be stuck with a R Senate majority.  I feel that strongly.  McConnell will be out, sooner than we imagine.  I have no idea what any of that means, but I still feel it.    



   
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We knew we were in for a bumpy ride. 

I'm very concerned about what might happen in the streets of DC on Wednesday. And what might result from it.



   
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Okay folks - I have already had a miserable time getting work done today (woke up to a leaky downstairs bathroom sink and had to spend a chunk of my day in-between professional development offerings for teachers dealing with that) so I did a traditional celtic cross spread. 

My question:  What is the Senate focusing on/dealing with the next two years.

My deck:  Legend:  The Arthurian Tarot

I had to use a lot of the book that goes along with it to interpret.  I'm still green at this again.

Feel free to add your own thoughts/correct my interpretations if you feel the urge.  Presented over multiple replies:

Card 1: The Moon (Morgan Le Fay) reversed: Errors in judgement, edgy and impatient, repressed unconscious issues causing mood swings and ill health suppressing the intuitive sense - I always took Card 1 as being my state in the current state of whatever I’m looking at and the edgy and impatient part is certainly true. When viewed as the current state of the senate it also seems to fit, particularly with repressed issues. It’s not a healthy place.

Card 2: Page of Swords: Positive forces working in favor of the outcome: There’s a lot on confidentiality here. Insight. Receiving first hand knowledge of a consequential matter. A young, active person with a sharp mind and gift for learning secrets. I caught a glimpse of both Ossof and Stacey Abrams here, but I also feel like this has to do with what’s coming to light about Trump right now. That leads me to believe that the bombshell from this weekend might still play a role tomorrow.

Card 3: Ten of Spears: Success through perseverance won out on the potential meanings - if this is the message from the higher power it could both indicate a 1/1 pickup for both parties but support Jeanne’s vision of McConnell’s exit. Or it could indicate we’ve made it this far, we just have a little longer to go. Ultimately I’m feeling positive from this card. It’s the green knight from Arthurian legend. If you follow that legend, Gawain received only a “knick” from the Green Knight in retaliation for his having beheaded the knight a year prior, but had to wear the green garter for the rest of his life. Perhaps the Republican party is destined for their own scarlet letter/green garter.



   
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Card 4:  Five of Swords (Upside down) - Gawain’s Penance - how interesting that this card came up right after the previous one about Gawain.  It deals with a different legend, but the reversed meaning shows a destructive, angry force working to sabotage things.  I instantly thought of Trump but also got some flashes of people like Ted Cruz.  It’s possible that they may try to keep their star on the Trump wagon while the Trump Wagon doesn’t differentiate from a supportive Republican and one who betrayed him.  Either way, I think this is saying Trumpism isn’t going to be as successful long term as many pundits are believing it to be.

 

Card 5:  Seven of Spears - the Arch of Twelve Kings - in this position, it’s past events that will become important now.  Interestingly you have two figures camped underneath this, and the meaning is described as overcoming adversity, promoting unity, and working together for the common good.  I don’t know if I remember a time in my lifetime when the Senate functioned this way, but as we continue to go through this pandemic, I am getting the sense from this card that people may have seen enough that we can put politics aside to weather the crisis.  Stay tuned.

 

Card 6:  The Ace of Swords - The Sword of Strange Hangings - In this position we’re looking at the view of the Senate going in to the next session - This line from the book stands out:  “Prolonged suffering forges a great force which, when directed, frees one from an oppressive situation.” and “Necessary change for the better” - I don’t know if Jeanne’s Mitch McConnell piece is coloring my reading of this, but this could definitely fit - if McConnell feels his majority has split from him, I can see him splitting from them, thus bringing one potential meaning to this card.  Either way, it looks like we might see some action from the Senate in actually dealing with the crisis at hand.  



   
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Card 7:  The Six of Spears - The Return of Ambrosius.  In this position we’re looking at the current psychological state of things.  And the first words on the page are “A well earned victory”   Further down “Gaining control of a worrisome situation”  - Again if this doesn’t mean we get both of them, it may mean the senate is spooked enough into joining with the house to deal with things.  I also like “Out maneuvering the opposition”

Card 8:  Page of Spears - The Hare (Reversed) The forces currently influencing things.  The first words on the page were “One who cannot be trusted with confidential matters” - To say that Trump is this “one” is an understatement - he’s certainly trying his hand at things.  I’m taking this to mean that Trump is going to be the reason for whatever result comes out of tomorrow.  If it’s Ossof and Warnock for the win, it’ll be a rebuke of Trumpism from the GA voters.  But that’s still an “if”

Card 9:  Queen of Spears, Dindrane (Reversed)  Hopes and fears slot.  I had to read up on Dindrane in the accompanying materials to really get the sense of what this card meant in the reverse — I guess I didn’t need Tarot cards to tell me this, but there are countless numbers that are over our current path, many more countless numbers are over it than support it, despite their vocality.  This is about all Im’ getting from this one.

Card 10 the outcome:  Two of Spears Bedivere and Kay (Reversed):  No one is prepared for the task ahead.  In that, I get the sense that no one coming in is going to be prepared for what’s going to have to occur to right the ship on every front.  The job of sorting all of this out is going to be much tougher than anyone (even current senate members returning to the gig) realize when everything comes to light.  The next two years are going to be filled with a lot of pessimism that anything even can be done.  But I get the feeling that there’s more and I’m not leaving this reading feeling dejected and hopeless.  



   
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@lowtide, I'm concerned about that too. I've read the Proud Boys will be there but won't be wearing their identifiable black and yellow. Instead they will be incognito and spread across downtown DC in smaller teams.  I've also heard the Orange One is entertaining the idea of addressing a crowd of his supporters on Wednesday, although he could be just foaming at the mouth.  DC Mayor Bowser is pleading for people not to go into DC on Tuesday and Wednesday, even if you want to counter-protest.  The most we can do is pray and send light to the situation. 

There is light at the end of the tunnel.  That I know for certain. 



   
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