You're absolutely right that Bernie is not his supporters and if he wins the nomination I will be happy to vote for him. I'm looking more at the narratives spun by the campaign and the followers and what I see as an unhealthy dynamic. This comes from real-life friends who post articles and memes on social media, often tinged with conspiracy, one example being that Buttigieg was behind the issues with the failed voting app and the huge mess in Iowa and that he deliberately cheated Bernie out of votes. "Cheatin' Pete" memes were circulating. I live in a VERY liberal city and a couple local friends who are public figures (one a former city councilman) posted on Facebook their support for Warren and they felt it was necessary to include requests to not be attacked in the comments. The woman who posted this used the term "Bernie-splain" and that fits pretty well the condescension from many within that camp.
I also see tons of comments, some of which may be from bots rather than people, but there's a real fervor there that matches what I see from actual people I know, on articles by Democracy Now, posts by Robert Reich, and even to troll posts by Warren's campaign that hold the narrative that Bernie is the only candidate with integrity or who will give us Medicare for all. (Warren's apparently some kind of traitor and will capitulate to corporations and she should drop out of the race to let the real progressive win.) I don't see the same "attack" energy coming from supporters of other candidates, and this poll from the beginning of the month reflects that distrust of others among Sanders followers:
Obviously Bernie is unlike Trump in ways beyond ideology. But it is the "We need THIS (and ONLY THIS) man to be leader so we can get X" narrative from many followers that is similar. Another difference is that probably most of Trump's supporters are sucked into the cult-like hero worship, while it is a highly vocal contingent within Bernie's camp that may be 50% or less. Also Trump himself is a liar and fake and Bernie clearly is not. As a progressive, and someone who has had health coverage only a tiny fraction of her adult life (none now at age 48), I'm deeply grateful to Bernie for pushing the party back in what I feel is the right direction. I left the party after Bill Clinton & have been a Green or Independent ever since. I may change my voter affiliation back, especially if AOC becomes a central, well-supported figure within the party. She is the future I want to see!
Oh, oh, oh, let me tell you about Tulsi, the object of my loathing.
For starters, Tulsi has shown support for Syria’s brutal Assad.
She is also supported by Putin.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/
story/2019-10-25/tulsi-gabbard-russian-asset-republican
Tulsi is now a regular on Fox News, often complaining about the Democratic nomination process.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/10/tulsi-gabbard-defends-fox-news-appearances-says-th/
Tulsi is the only Democrat who did not vote to impeach Trump. Instead, she voted present.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/us/elections/tulsi-gabbard-impeachment-vote.html
She’s not a Democrat. She’s a spoiler and only looking out for herself.
Obviously, I could go on and on. Need to do a loving kindness meditation now.
My issues with Bernie arent his platform, it's his execution. The medical records became an issue and after Trump's hiding of everything, he needs to release them. He is too stubborn on this one and needs to learn how to pick his battles better. Also, when the cost of his democratic socialist ideas is brought up, he doesnt do a good job of properly explaining them. Let's face it-most of the public is either stupid or getting their news in one line blurbs. He has to account for that and, again, is too stubborn to change. The way he is going about this question is playing into the hands of the people exploiting this fact.
Warren has basically the same platform, but with her experience as an educator, she is better suited to get her point across to the masses. She also is progressive in both her ideology and her way of thinking. She has changed her platform because she is evolving with what the country wants. Bernie is steadfast in his ideas and will never change. Lack of adaptability is a death sentence in politics and even if Bernie is President, he doesnt have the ability to compromise enough to get his agenda passed.
If Bernie, or Biden, or whomever, win the Dem nomination, they're getting.my vote. I just pray it's not Bloomberg because he is one step down from Trump and a lot of Dem voters are back to where they were in 2016-hating both candidates
If you've watched the news in the last few days (CNN, MSNBC), our Intelligence agencies have warned Trump and Bernie (some time ago) that Putin is already interfering in our Primary election and supporting Bernie to be the Democratic nominee, because Putin's goal is to help Trump win.
Middle America won't vote for a Socialist and Putin knows this. The bottom line is if Bernie wins the nomination, we won't win the election. There was a discussion today from a campaign strategist that our democracy won't survive another 4 years of Trump.
As of this afternoon in Las Vegas, the millennials have turned out in droves to caucus for Bernie and he has the lead. If Bernie gets too far ahead in the race, the others won't be able to catch up.
I'm praying for a miracle and hope that everyone here is too.
I am worried about Bernie winning the nomination. I agree that if he does take the nomination then Trump wins. Has anyone meditated on this because I am holding on to the hope that the previous visions still hold. I really hope that the future isn't changing for the worse.
@jovesta I've been throwing Tarot cards using the Celtic Cross spread, asking if the candidate in question would win the Election and become President. Bernie's final card was The Fool. Trump's final card was The Lovers. Not sure about Bloomberg yet.
@light So, what do those two cards mean? I am not familiar with card meanings.... sorry! I am an intuitive, but not a clairvoyant....
They were upright. I just did a reading on Pete and Mike: Pete's last card was The Tower - Reversed.
Mike's last card was the 5 of Wands - Reversed.
Bernie: The Fool: New beginnings
Trump: The Lovers: Commitment, partnerships.
Pete: The Tower: Losses
Mike: 5 of Wands - reversed: Conflict is coming or ending.