I believe also that Drumpf's mother was ironically a Scottish immigrant, from a remote island in the Hebrides. Not Scandinavian. And Grandpa (Fred's father) ran a brothel for awhile when times were tough ...
@jewels. If you want to read about Trump's grandparents, there is plenty of fact-checked information on the web starting with History.com.
Interesting fact about his grandfather Frederich, -- he came to the U.S. from Germany in 1885, avoiding compulsory three-year German military service. So draft dodging runs in the family.
Then there was the family lie about being from Scandinavia rather than Germany, so as not to offend Jewish patrons in the real estate business:
From History.com https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry
But for decades, Trump denied this German heritage altogether, instead claiming that his grandfather’s roots lay further north, in Scandinavia. “[He] came here from Sweden as a child,” Trump asserted in his co-written book The Art of the Deal. In fact, his cousin and family historian John Walter told The New York Times, Trump maintained the ruse at the request of his own realtor father, Fred Trump, who had obfuscated his German ancestry to avoid upsetting Jewish friends and clients. “After the war,” Walter told the Times, “he’s still Swedish. [The lie] was just going, going, going.”
To be fair, there are a lot of Americans of German heritage today who can trace their ancestry back to immigrants leaving Germany in the mid to late-1880s in order to avoid compulsory military service. I'm married to one.
This is not to excuse or mitigate in any way the Mango Menace's personal history of draft-dodging, just to say that the Drumpf grandfather had a lot of company.
@seeker4it
[content removed] Cadet Bonespurs is as big a coward as they come. He's ALREADY been calling the upcoming election "rigged" knowing he is likely to lose. [link needed] That is his usual M.O. He is so predictable in certain ways...
@jeanne-mayell. Fascinating. His family will be studied in psychology classes from now on. So much feral dysfunction, and predatory nature to boot. Thanks for the History.com tip! Addictive site, I bet. Interesting note about draft dodging. In Germany back then, it seems noble to do so.
Just a meme, but this cracked me up:
(couldn't remember which thread had the discussion of sage)
@jewels
Lols ... or not so lols? Was actually going to put that down next to the unholy one's name, but thought the Great Idjit might go further down the whacko rabbit hole if he discovered that his title (and his thunder) had been usurped by his lowly henchman. ?