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@jeanne-mayell

Thank you for saying what is hard to say, and harder to consider. We've talked about this many times since I have also been seeing visions of Prince since early 2017 related to his backdoor role as consigliere to DJT. Or rather, as DJT's "handler" and as consigliere to Putin, to powers above Putin (Semion Mogilevich), to the royal houses in UAE and Saudi Arabia, as well as to China. 

Prince makes William Barr look like a newborn kitten. 

But what he shares in common with Barr, Pompeo, and too many others who benefited from the 2016 attack on our elections (let's just call it what it is: an unacknowledged coup) is a brand of religious extremism/general worldview that is deeply illiberal, and therefore wholly regressive. In other words: it is, quite knowingly, anti-democratic, full stop.

But Prince is unique in that he no longer retains even a shred of loyalty to either country or party; only to power. And because we are still in the patriarchal epoch, there is no greater power than what can be obtained through the proliferation of mass warfare. It's the most profitable enterprise known to capitalism—but it is much, much more than that. (I'll spare you the dark occult references but suffice it to say that war is the very height of blood sacrifice.) 

Here are the things I've seen (and described here over the years):

 — I've seen Prince involved with an attempt to remove the Catholic Pope. I saw this happening in an opportunistic fashion as some type of major natural disaster occurs in Italy. 

 — I've seen Prince bringing trained mercenaries onto US soil after something having to do with China (possibly this was covid-19, but it could easily be something else).

 — And I've seen that the US would be dealing with violent uprisings beginning in the summer of 2020 and continuing through what feels like 2024 or 26. By "violent uprisings" I do NOT mean the current BLM/police brutality civic protests, however I feel certain that these events have provided the "opportunity" (much like a natural disaster) that Prince and the Dark Enlightenment have been eagerly waiting for. (Russia's active measures are used to radicalize those on the right and the left with the aim of promoting civil conflict.)

 

So, of course, when I saw the initial reports of unidentified troops in DC, I immediately thought of Prince and feared the worst. However, based on the photos I could find, I felt immediately that these men (at least the ones I was seeing) were actually US prison guards since a) most were in not-great physical shape and appeared to be numb, apathetic, mildly disgruntled, and even confused (a hallmark of the profession), and b) Barr has purview over prisons. Something tells me that an elite force of well-trained and highly-paid mercenaries will at least look the part. 

Now we have confirmation that Barr was ordering Bureau of Prisons correctional officers to DC and other cities for this purpose.

I do feel that some of Prince's soldiers are already here, and I suspect they're attempting to embed all over the country in different pockets and organizations. But the thing I keep coming back to is that they also have no explicit loyalty. They do what they do for the almighty dollar (the US has hired them to fight in our wars since well before T got installed to office). So, unless they're making millions (they're not) or have been thoroughly and successfully brainwashed (who can say), then what is to hold them on mission over the longterm? They'd have to also be true believers of the Bannon variety, which is more than possible. But in a time of maximum chaos and ultimate transition, minds and hearts can and will be changed.

My point: I'm not afraid the Prince faction will win. In the long run, I know absolutely that they won't. Evolution doesn't move in reverse. What I do believe is that the US will no longer be the world power it once was. And I'm fine with that. 

 

One last thing: Just before George Floyd's murder, I was sensing that China was considering launching cyber weapons. I believe that may have been forestalled due to the protests. Prince may have some connection to this, but that's much less clear. I also believe that the climate crisis will quickly out-stage all of this.

 



   
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I don’t know if anyone here follows The Lincoln Project but they just released their latest video.  It is a comparison of the cowardly orange one and General Mattis.  It’s quite powerful.  I worry about the unidentifiable warriors, I use that term loosely and Eric Prince but knowing there are braver men like Mattis stepping up gives me hope.

 

if the Millie reference that was deleted is what I read this morning it is an eye popper!  Of course there is no way to tell if it is true.  We can only hope!



   
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@jeanne-mayell Nothing to forgive.  Mark Milley is the Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was the general in camouflage who walked with Trump to the church.  I was quite dismayed to see him do that because everything I knew about him says he's honorable. He did not pose with the group in front of the church, but he was there.  However, afterwards, he sent a memo to all of the Joint Chiefs reminding them of what their duty clearly is. Most of the news reports say the memo was leaked, but I have to believe this was intentional because he's trying to find a way around Trump.  (My interpretation only.)  You can google the memo and find multiple sources, but here's one from the Wall Street Journal.  https://www.wsj.com/articles/military-leaders-send-missives-to-troops-stay-true-to-the-american-   people-11591297582  Here's the first paragraph which reads loudly and clearly: Do not follow Trump and what he is doing. We're committed to the Constitution, etc....  In my mind, he's letting us know that if Trump does go too far, the military might not follow what they would consider to be an illegal order.  Combine that with Gen. Mattis's statement in The Atlantic and, numerous other generals et. al. and Trump might find himself facing the full power of the military.  I don't know, I'm just speculating, but there is something in their regs about not following unlawful orders and, boy, it seems like Gen. Milley is reminding every branch of the military of just that.  Let's hope.



   
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I think they "Millie" reference is about Gen. Milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs. The one who strutted around with trump the other day in combat fatigues, and was then so ashamed he wrote a memo to all the troops affirming the military's support of diversity and the constitution. I couldn't find the link but try Googling it. It's quite a read.



   
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@yogagirl  The Lincoln Project is composed of Republicans horrified by Trump.  Rick Wilson, who started the project, wrote the book entitled: Everything Trump Touches Dies.  These videos are terrific and Trump is outraged by them.  They've also got one on Moscow Mitch that is powerful. What I love about them is how hard hitting they are against Trump.  What I hate is that when this is all over, they will go back to being every bit as hard hitting against Democrats as they always were.  Dems just don't make videos like these.  



   
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@nelysthealchemist then it's up to the military, and that's all there is to it.



   
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People should (if you haven't already) read up on what happens if the President won't leave. For one thing he won't be President. Also if the Senate and House have gone Democrat, he has no chance of staying there for five extra minutes. I'm going to risk getting into trouble here by posting an excellent link that explains the whole process. We have plenty of other things to worry about before January 20. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/trump-election-refusal-leave.html



   
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@suspira44 good point- that’s a scary thought. Ugh. I feel so powerless. 



   
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@seeker4.  I have seen all of the Lincoln Project videos and they really hit hard.  If I’m not mistaken Kelly Ann’s hubby is part of this.  
I saw another very moving video on Twitter this afternoon.  It was released by the commander of the Pacific Air Force .  He is a black man and gave a very moving testimony to his military commitment.  I can’t remember his name, I want to say Cooper or Cox.  It was very moving.

I misunderstood the Millie reference. I’m afraid I have no use for the General.  I thought the reference, for some strange unexplained reason, was referring to the post from a male escort calling on his brothers to expose a certain southern male congressman.  Hint he just died his hair.  My only excuse for the mixup is chemo brain kicking in again.  Sorry.



   
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@suspira44  Thanks for this link.  I knew some of it, but not all.  I remember one of Jimmy Carter's staff members (can't remember who) said that one minute you have all the power you need and can call for a ride or whatever your want at a moment's notice, and the next no one is paying any attention to you and you are hailing a cab.  Yes, we have better things to think about, but I think reading this will help me do that.



   
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