I asserted that its not man made. Must be either a typo or miscommunication-responding before proofreading my post. Its genetics are clearly the result of a natural mutation. I do think, however, that the spread is the result of a pointed attack.
It is known to exist in a few mammals, however there have been some interesting facts to come out since the pandemic started. [citations needed]
For all who are interested, below is a good summary of how the Electoral College voting and certification happens:
https://history.house.gov/Institution/Electoral-College/Electoral-College/
BTW, @laura-f, the EC vote is what counts constitutionally, so if item 5. on your list happens, Biden wins:
5. The electors meet on Dec. 14 to cast their votes, Twitler loses again.
6. He still doesn't concede, and neither does Biden. Civil unrest escalates.
6.5 Congress certifies the EC vote on Jan 6 (individual elector votes can be contested in Congress, but both houses have to agree for the specific vote to be thrown out, which won't happen)
7. Jan. 20 arrives. Twitler gets dragged out of the WH. Biden gets sworn in.
@sistermoon, it means a lot that you would specifically ask me. But I won't remote view Epstein. The darkness around him is more than I care to engage. Imagine a vast smokey black octopus—with more tentacles than you can count. It relishes greed and lust and prurience, prays on weakness, and eats pain and death.
And it's infinitely hungry.
It isn't difficult for me to remote view T because, despite his obvious connections to Epstein or his own egregious crimes (including the alleged rape of a child), I personally find him imbecilic—always have. I don't have latent or unconscious fears connected to a figure like T, only overt concerns about the chaos and despair he's caused and will continue to cause until he's ousted.
But I was a child victim. And despite feeling incredibly emotionally strong and largely confident in my capacities, I know I need to protect myself from the energies that surround a figure like Epstein. It's the unconscious stuff—the unresolved pain I haven't become aware of yet—that I choose to honor here (by refusing to engage).
That aside, I understand your concerns about whether he may still be alive. I actually suspected this myself initially until I saw footage of Epstein's body being taken out on a gurney. It's true that he could have been temporarily unconscious, but to me, he had the look of death.
Still, in my experience, his kind of dead don't like to leave. And they can still have influence here (see "octopus" ^). ...This post has moved into territory not everyone is comfortable with, which I respect. I'll just say that I feel very strongly that those energies are fighting as hard as they are to continue to exist, to continue to influence the living (and feed off human pain), because they feel the coming changes as much as we do. They're afraid, which means they're vulnerable.
I see a lot of imagery that hearkens to the Book of Revelations. I just don't see it as an end, but a beginning.
Meantime, much love to you and everyone here. ?
Anybody have any thoughts on the T “secret police” Philadelphia’s top prosecutor said he is prepared to arrest the federal agents.
So you are prepared to prosecute federal law enforcement officials if they do in Philadelphia what they are doing in Portland?
"If we have clear probable cause for the commission of crimes, by anyone, including law enforcement, including federal law enforcement, we will prosecute that. We're not going to tolerate any kidnappings and assaults going on in Philadelphia streets. We're not going to tolerate showing up under the guise of making things safer and [instead] causing violence."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-22/philly-d-a-threatens-to-arrest-federal-agents
Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response; your posts and insights are always so fascinating that I truly hang on every word you write. That said, however, I apologize for bringing up those dark memories for you.
But I am happy to hear you sense the fear and vulnerability of these energies. It's important to remember -- always, but especially when we feel hopeless and afraid -- that even great evil is not as all-powerful as we fear :)
Much love right back to you ❤️
For those who read my post before Jeanne edited it for lack of citations, the only article I can find at the moment on Google is a more recent one that shows covid found in Spain in Spring 2019. The other I mentioned were referenced in late May articles that I am still looking for. Here is the Spain article.
@sistermoon I can't answer most of your questions, but I do know - and I thought this was a rotten idea - that subpoenaed people weren't jailed etc. is because the Democrats didn't want them to look like martyrs. So now as far as I'm concerned, we're the martyrs. He wouldn't have been impeached anyway. There's no point calling for T to resign - I'm sure they want to conserve their energy - because he isn't going to resign. Also I'm not sure calling for mass protests is a good idea - T is already blaming Democrats for anything that happens during protests, acting like they are the villains.
I have to believe somebody is planning something somewhere - why should the Republicans be the only ones with plans?
...I apologize for bringing up those dark memories for you.
Thank you for saying so, @sistermoon. It genuinely touches me to know you feel that way. ?
But no need to apologize whatsoever! First, you weren't aware. And second, it doesn't hurt me to confront or address those memories. It's been a long time since those things happened and I've done a LOT of healing since then.
I'm not afraid of looking into the darkness. In fact, I believe this is part of my purpose. I just try to stay aware of when doing so might get me more than I bargain for. ...Like it did on the Kim Jong-Un front (my own fault for jumping in without realizing they're a longstanding shamanic warrior culture!). :)
@laura-f & mas ..
I am all apology if I (again) proposed that Covid-19 is not a 'natural' occurrence, based on my own intuitive opinion, and contrary to (God forbid) 'Science' mag and all the batty brouhaha ...
There have been some interesting articles in other Science mags that I've perused, but can't locate right now, so that's a moot, that describe in detail how a basic Sars-2 virus could have been engineered into the insidious Covid-19 that we are experiencing, through experimentation in that Wuhan lab ok ... and released accidentally. A possibility to consider .....
It's notable that the Drumph regime withdrew funding from the research (per 'Science' mag link in Laura's post) and the Wuhan lab adamantly denies any expermentation with even the Sars-2 virus per same article. Yeah right. ?
Anyways, it's out of Pandora's box now, and we are dealing, albeit on many different levels.
Hopefully one upshot of the 'bat & pangolin' blame-game will be that these barbaric, horrific 'Wet Markets' will be closed and certain peoples will realize that centuries of tradition in butchering wildlife for medicinal + health "benefits" is just BS and should ethically be abolished. The same goes for the disgusting and horrifically cruel DOGMEAT festivals that are still being held in CHINA.
this article relates to that : https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/22/yosemite-coronavirus-covid-19-sewage-tests
Which to me..begs the question .. are the water treatment plants doing an adequate job cleaning our water? What about all the recreational water usage.. are the rivers, lakes and beaches a bit source of contact and spread here in the summertime as people flock to water sports and trips as recreation and relief from the heat?
@mas1581 This is very interesting to me, because I had a very flu-like respiratory infection in January/February of 2019. I've had cold/flu at least twice a year for the last 30+ years, (spring and fall), but that time it hit right near my birthday (Jan 3), and I ended up in the emergency room twice with shortness of breath, which has never happened before. I never had much of a fever or sinus congestion, but I did have some of the other now known symptoms, such as digestive issues, lack of appetite, and loss of taste and smell. The taste and smell thing didn't register for me because that always happens to me when I get a cold or flu, so I just chalked it up to that.
I know that a lot of times Covid-19 doesn't show up on X-rays but does on CT scans, and the chest x-ray they took was clear, but they did not do a CT, so I have no idea if that would have shown anything. The ER staff and my pulmonary doctor both said it was just a heavy flu and put me on steroids, antibiotics and a nebulizer, but for nearly a week, I had difficulty keeping my oxygen saturation above 90%. I finally mostly recovered after about two weeks, but for several weeks afterward, I had problems with my lungs and breathlessness. A few other people at work also had the same thing, and they all agreed that the full recovery period was something on the order of 6-8 weeks after most of the symptoms were gone. If I compare what I was experiencing at the time with the symptoms of Covid-19, it pretty well matches down the line with only minor variations.
I may have also had another mild case last month. It seemed more like a cold than anything, except I never had a fever, congestion, or anything else I normally have with a cold or flu. On the other hand, I did have a few of the standard Covid-19 symptoms again - difficulty breathing, rapid heart rate, and loss of taste and smell for a couple of days. That time, I just started taking zinc tablets as soon as I felt it coming on, along with a crap ton of Vitamin C and extra Vitamin D, and within less than 5 days, I was fine. Two weeks after that, I tested negative for the virus (had to be tested pre-surgery), so I don't know for sure.
No - they test UNTREATED sewage samples, not drinking water supplies ?
I wouldn't worry, even here in areas where we drink partially recycled water, the filtration systems excel at cleaning it very well except for two things: pharmaceuticals and microplastics.
You could have possibly had an early form of covid19, or a serious flu/pleuracy/pneumonia. If the steroids worked, it was almost certainly the latter.
All of our usable water is treated with UV, which kills any virus or bacteria lurking. Occasionally the system will get an "infection" further down the line, causing the boil orders people get from time to time, but for the most part, its quite safe, disease wise. I do have concerns with our tap water containing high hormone levels from various birth control drugs, but that is a completely different discussion and definitely too long to have here(also don't have the energy tonight to research sources for you guys lol)
It wasn't lab created or adjusted unless it was done by the stupidest and luckiest scientist to ever live. Its genome is distinctly natural and to create something like that only to leave it to chance to have a natural mutation to infect humans is insanity. That said, it could have been found long ago and researched/harvested before a strategic release, which I do feel is a strong possibility. Anthrax is similar as it is completely natural but has been studied and cultivated and can easily be used in the same way.
I am aware they are testing sewage.. not drinking water... our area gets its drinking water from the local rivers and lakes...which do have failures...and areas that raw sewage gets dumped in.
Here in NW Ga... we often have "failures" of public water cleaning systems and have "boil water advisories" often enough that everyone has backup water supplies. We are also on a river that is used recreationally by people from all over the state as well as lakes and "swimming holes" Lake Allatoona is so high for bacteria counts this time of year that people and animals get sick swimming in it/drinking from it. Also a popular pastime with many is drinking while doing these activities..and yes...they go in the water...or on the banks (disgusting for true) so the Etowah River is not the cleanest for water recreation either. Raw sewage has often been found being dumped/"leaking" in to the Chattahoochee as well. I would consider it a source of contamination and disease spread.
Similar here. I was sick from early December to end of February with something that checked off all the COVID boxes except the toe rash and loss of smell. My O2 sats fluctuated from 83-91 the whole time. Several visits to urgent care. "We don't see anything on X-ray, but that doesn't mean you don't have something." I get the flu shot every year, came up negative anyway 3 times. Multiple rounds of antibiotics and lots and lots of asthma inhalers (I didn't get nebulized because in urgent care my O2 sat was above 90 every time, so the denied I needed it). So I did a home version of nebulizer - I used a portable steam treatment thingy with Vaporub, and that really helped. My symptoms didn't completely clear up until around lockdown time - March 15, which is why I never got tested outright.
At the time the closest disease other than COVID to what I had that I could find was a form of pediatric alveolitis that was circulating.
Fast forward to late May. My doctor agreed I should get antibody tested. I know 9 other people who all had this same illness. We all got AB tested in April-June. ALL of us came up antibody negative, which to me seems statistically impossible, but then again I am math disabled.
Which begs the question: Did we wait too long for even the antibody test? Maybe the antibodies disappear more quickly than we thought (similarly to that other coronavirus, the common cold).
I think until we know more, we all proceed as the antibody-negative people we are, take precautions, but I imagine that down the line we're going to find out that long term immunity is not really possible.
I guess it depends on the system where you are. Maybe bottled water is best for now for you.
@journeywithme2. Which to me..begs the question .. are the water treatment plants doing an adequate job cleaning our water? What about all the recreational water usage.. are the rivers, lakes and beaches a bit source of contact and spread here in the summertime as people flock to water sports and trips as recreation and relief from the heat? --@journeywithme2
Such a good question. I was thinking of going swimming in a local lake and this thought gives me pause. But so far, according to the CDC, there is no evidence that Covid-19 is spreading via sewage or spreads via water at all. You can read about it here at the CDC website.
The World Health Organization says pretty much the same thing. You can read The Who's statement here.
They say essentially that covid-19 is transmitted via droplets in the air and not via water or even via the feces of someone who had covid-19.
Because the disease is new to us, more will come out over time. But, given what I've read, I will swim in that lake.
Antibody halflife is roughly 2 1/2 months for moderate covid cases. It also varies greatly in different patients. We aren't far enough out yet from the start to have a more specific length of time they stay. Basically, unless you had it in May 2020 at the earliest(and possibly a stretch for some), there is little to no reliability of antibody testing right now.
To clarify, if you take a test today, any negative for a sickness prior to May of this year is unreliable at best.