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(@carmen)
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It cracks me up when people claim the government wants to track us all with microchips. If you have a smartphone and if you are on social media, you are already being tracked, but by corporations instead of the government.

Besides, why would the government, an entity that loves tax money, kill off its citizens? That's less tax money for them, lol.

Nice to know I'm not the only one surrounded by people who don't take COVID-19 seriously and believe in dangerous conspiracies. This pandemic truly highlighted just how gullible and stupid people are, even the so-called educated ones.



   
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(@tgraf66)
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A Seattle ban on tear gas, non-lethal projectiles and pepper spray has been blocked by a federal judge.  The ban had not yet taken effect, but it has now been sidelined.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/us-doj-seeks-stop-tear-gas-ban-directive/6VMC2BPYNBCBHN4O5SFSSG5KIQ/



   
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(@laura-f)
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For anyone planning on going to a protest - contact your local ACLU. Many state chapters (including CA) have an app you can install. What the app does - you use your phone camera to record on the app and it immediately uploads it to the cloud, in case your phone gets confiscated or destroyed. It can also be used to record ICE and other police actions.



   
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(@unk-p)
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@carmen the crazy-making thing about ridiculous conspiracy theories is that, whenever there really *is* a criminal conspiracy in the government, it just gets brushed off as another whack-o "Conspiracy Theory", case closed.

Besides, why would the government, an entity that loves tax money, kill off its citizens? That's less tax money for them, lol.

  A: Maybe because dead people cost the govt. less than long-term health care and Social Security benefits for the elderly.  Also the fact that people of color are disproportionately affected by the disease could outweigh the loss of revenue, for an openly white supremacist administration.  Add to the mix collusion with a hostile foreign government, and it raises the possibility that they really do want us all dead.

  A vaccine that tracks people is a conspiracy theory.  Covid-45 is real, and has been weaponized against the American people, either purposefully, or negligently, or some combination of both. 



   
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(@laura-f)
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@unk-p

The word I use for the pandemic is "opportunistically", but there is malevolence in the mix. I've been saying all along that the goals of the theo-oligo-autocracy include:

  • Cull the herd. Less disability, SS, WIC, Medicare, etc. to pay, the better.
  • As many people in jail as possible, especially PoCs.
  • Prisons are a constitution-free zone, not that it matters because prisoners can be used as slave labor.
  • Use Christianity as leverage where possible.
  • Eliminate free public education, or at the least make it so non-functional that it doesn't actually educate the young populace.
  • Use anyone they can deem "Other" as a scapegoat as it is convenient to them.
  • Ransack the Treasury and also rob the populace blind to line their own coffers.

Then there are the foreign interests who are meddling in any way they can to destabilize countries they don't like. This includes Russia, Saudi Arabia, N. Korea and China. They'll do anything they can, whether electronically, financially, conspiratorially, or straight up as terrorism.

Never forget that the 9-11 plot can be traced back to Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. Remember how tied our oligarchy is to S.A., including the Bush Dynasty. I can still see in my mind pics of the Saudi prince with Shrub, walking hand in hand and smiling. They smile while they put the knife in, as they say.

And it's no coincidence that the "fed agents" that are committing war crimes are probably mercenaries courtesy of Erik Prince.
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/3/10/war_contractor_erik_prince_has_close



   
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@laura-f But it's costing billions and billions and bringing down a lot of businesses and institutions. I'm not saying the pandemic isn't being used for evil now that it's here, but I have a bad time with conspiracy theories. Absolutely everything is a conspiracy. I remember seeing Martin Short's one man show where he brought John Stamos on stage and said, "Where were you when Queen Elizabeth killed Princess Diana?" Just one of many, including Hitler escaping, Elvis still alive etc. The only thing I'll agree to is we don't know everything about the Kennedy assassination. But not for 10 seconds do I believe that Johnson said the night before, "We won't have to worry about Kennedy after tomorrow." Give me a break. And that's what happens when a conspiracy theory gets going. Or the Las Vegas shooting, where a woman was walking around saying "You're going to be dead in 45 minutes." Or the person who told someone before 9/11, "don't be in the city next Tuesday." I lived in NY - you know how many versions of that I heard? Seeing the way things are done, it's hard for me to believe that a bunch of people are that organized or that smart.



   
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(@unk-p)
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@suspira44 which part of @laura-f's post sounded like a conspiracy theory to you?



   
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(@laura-f)
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@suspira44

What @unk-p said - Where am I saying anything is a conspiracy??? I'm one of the people on here who shuts those down!!

And I used to live in NY too, and my brother worked around the corner from WTC (and we didn't know if he was ok for a whole day) AND I have jettisoned out of my life those friends (on the left mostly) who continue to insist that 9-11 was an inside job after YEARS of every year on 9-11 having to listen to their crap.

And HERE:

https://politizoom.com/2020/07/24/how-did-we-get-here-the-gops-75-year-love-affair-with-authoritarian-demagogues/

The only actual conspiracy is the one visited upon us since 1950 courtesy of the "GOP". And it's working so far.



   
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@suspira44 Where on this site has someone posted that covid was invented to kill people? 



   
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(@moonbeam)
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I think it was lost in translation, all;-)

 

Also, do not forget that the entire world is struggling with Covid. What is happening in the US is horrid, but people are dying all over the globe. It has come to Africa now, that will be a massacre with healthcare in disarray there.

The 6 points Laura F mentioned, can play a part in the US by the non to smart political minded, but nothing about this can be controlled. You can only use the consequences for a while until it blows up in your face ('you' as in wrong doers). It used to be 'democrats use the virus' as parroted by the GOP. Then it was 'oh look, it is only wiping out democratic strongholds aka NY'. Now it's in republican areas. After a while, most ppl will use their brain. I cannot believe that 40% of the US are die-hard Trumpers who cannot think further than 'woe is me' and 'everybody is out to get me'.

 

I think the most important part is that we make sure people don't use those 6 points successfully and make a wall of moms, light-workers, democrats (not the party, but the system) ourselves ao;-)

 

I have a feeling we all agree on that part?



   
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