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(@journeywithme2)
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@laura-f

I have a small under the sink reverse osmosis system that I use... it even removes the fluoride. It was well worth the investment and the cost (about 250.00) has more than paid for itself over the years.



   
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@jeanne-mayell

I know the CDC and WHO are saying it isn't spread thru sewage, and I would say that is at least 99% accurate. That said, viral sheddings are commonly found in fecal matter of those infected. The time between host and water source should be plenty to kill the hostless virus, but there are certain circumstances where I can see the virus living thru that. I wouldn't say it is 100% safe, but quite close to that. 

A much more realistic concern of mine would be it being transferred from other people in the vicinity that are infected. 

It is primarily spread by droplets, but there are some things out there suggesting that it is also transmissible(albeit not as as frequently) by aerosol and on surfaces. Its a much lower chance than via droplets, but there still is a mathematically significant(not infinitesimal) chance. 



   
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@mas1581

Re: AB tests - yes, you're right.

Re: Modes of transmission - droplets, yes, but now they say it is also "true" airborne, meaning it will linger in the air way longer than droplets, and can travel on air currents in a limited way.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/health/239-experts-with-one-big-claim-the-coronavirus-is-airborne.html



   
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@laura-f

You are completely correct and thank you for adding that. I was referring to outdoor water bodies, where whatever is aerosolized is much less likely to infect someone because of wind and natural sunlight. Inside, it is an entirely different story and much more likely, since the aerosolized virus is trapped and not exposed to near the UV light that it is outdoors. 



   
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@mas1581

You are so right Mas... it is insanity!  And it has become our new "normal".



   
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@laura-f

damn, those are some scary O2 levels you experienced!



   
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@suspira44

you raise some good points. I'm guess I'm just tired of the good cop/bad cop routine. I feel like they're just passing the ball back and forth.

Yesterday I saw Maxine Waters call what is happening in Portland a trial run for November (no link -- she said it on Joy Reid's new show), but I haven't seen anyone else raise the alarm so explicitly. 

While I certainly hope they are busy planning behind the scenes, I would just like something a little more visible right now.

Well, I remind myself that have a ways to go before November, and nowadays lots can happen in a single 24 hours. Gotta keep the faith, I tell myself :) 



   
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I just saw on the news. Trump’s Goon Squad has a code name: Operation Legend. I would have to interject here that they are a legend in their own mind!  This is a play straight out of the Putin playbook. Little green men showed up in Ukraine without identifying marks. Who is behind this? My guess is Putin, Barr, and Trump. It is not a coincidence that he is targeting Democratic cities. He wants chaos and takes his orders from Putin. Will we be able to turn the tides? It reminds me of what Jeanne said many moons ago. Who will step us to save us from this abomination?



   
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My friend was very sick in February and self quarantined for four days. We thought he had the flu, he hadn't gotten a flu shot.

Then I got a mild cold. I am now wondering if we had the virus. 



   
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Michael Cohen was ordered to be released by a Federal Judge:  

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release of Michael Cohen to home confinement, agreeing with his lawyers that he was wrongly sent back to prison after making public statements critical of President Donald Trump.

He was asked to sign a form that included this provision: "No engagement of any kind with the media, including print, tv, film, books, or any other form of media/news. Prohibition from all social media platforms."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/judge-finds-michael-cohen-s-return-prison-retaliatory-orders-his-n1234712

"I've never seen such a clause in 21 years of being a judge and sentencing people," U.S. District Court Judge Alvin Hellerstein said. "How can I take any other inference but that it was retaliatory?"

 



   
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