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(@mas1581)
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@laura-f

I asserted that its not man made. Must be either a typo or miscommunication-responding before proofreading my post. Its genetics are clearly the result of a natural mutation. I do think, however, that the spread is the result of a pointed attack. 

It is known to exist in a few mammals, however there have been some interesting facts to come out since the pandemic started. [citations needed]



   
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For all who are interested, below is a good summary of how the Electoral College voting and certification happens:

https://history.house.gov/Institution/Electoral-College/Electoral-College/

BTW, @laura-f, the EC vote is what counts constitutionally, so if item 5. on your list happens, Biden wins:

5. The electors meet on Dec. 14 to cast their votes, Twitler loses again.

6. He still doesn't concede, and neither does Biden. Civil unrest escalates.

6.5 Congress certifies the EC vote on Jan 6 (individual elector votes can be contested in Congress, but both houses have to agree for the specific vote to be thrown out, which won't happen)

7. Jan. 20 arrives. Twitler gets dragged out of the WH. Biden gets sworn in.



   
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@sistermoon, it means a lot that you would specifically ask me. But I won't remote view Epstein. The darkness around him is more than I care to engage. Imagine a vast smokey black octopus—with more tentacles than you can count. It relishes greed and lust and prurience, prays on weakness, and eats pain and death.

And it's infinitely hungry.

It isn't difficult for me to remote view T because, despite his obvious connections to Epstein or his own egregious crimes (including the alleged rape of a child), I personally find him imbecilic—always have. I don't have latent or unconscious fears connected to a figure like T, only overt concerns about the chaos and despair he's caused and will continue to cause until he's ousted. 

But I was a child victim. And despite feeling incredibly emotionally strong and largely confident in my capacities, I know I need to protect myself from the energies that surround a figure like Epstein. It's the unconscious stuff—the unresolved pain I haven't become aware of yet—that I choose to honor here (by refusing to engage).  

That aside, I understand your concerns about whether he may still be alive. I actually suspected this myself initially until I saw footage of Epstein's body being taken out on a gurney. It's true that he could have been temporarily unconscious, but to me, he had the look of death.

Still, in my experience, his kind of dead don't like to leave. And they can still have influence here (see "octopus" ^). ...This post has moved into territory not everyone is comfortable with, which I respect. I'll just say that I feel very strongly that those energies are fighting as hard as they are to continue to exist, to continue to influence the living (and feed off human pain), because they feel the coming changes as much as we do. They're afraid, which means they're vulnerable.

I see a lot of imagery that hearkens to the Book of Revelations. I just don't see it as an end, but a beginning. 

Meantime, much love to you and everyone here. ?



   
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Anybody have any thoughts on the T “secret police”  Philadelphia’s top prosecutor said he is prepared to arrest the federal agents.

So  you are prepared to prosecute federal law enforcement officials if they do in Philadelphia what they are doing in Portland? 

"If we have clear probable cause for the commission of crimes, by anyone, including law enforcement, including federal law enforcement, we will prosecute that. We're not going to tolerate any kidnappings and assaults going on in Philadelphia streets. We're not going to tolerate showing up under the guise of making things safer and [instead] causing violence."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-22/philly-d-a-threatens-to-arrest-federal-agents



   
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@vestralux

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response; your posts and insights are always so fascinating that I truly hang on every word you write. That said, however, I apologize for bringing up those dark memories for you. 

But I am happy to hear you sense the fear and vulnerability of these energies. It's important to remember -- always, but especially when we feel hopeless and afraid -- that even great evil is not as all-powerful as we fear :)

Much love right back to you ❤️ 

 



   
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For those who read my post before Jeanne edited it for lack of citations, the only article I can find at the moment on Google is a more recent one that shows covid found in Spain in Spring 2019. The other I mentioned were referenced in late May articles that I am still looking for. Here is the Spain article.

https://mobile-reuters-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN23X2HQ?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15954519331028&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Farticle%2Fus-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ



   
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@sistermoon I can't answer most of your questions, but I do know - and I thought this was a rotten idea - that subpoenaed people weren't jailed etc. is because the Democrats didn't want them to look like martyrs. So now as far as I'm concerned, we're the martyrs. He wouldn't have been impeached anyway. There's no point calling for T to resign - I'm sure they want to conserve their energy - because he isn't going to resign. Also I'm not sure calling for mass protests is a good idea - T is already blaming Democrats for anything that happens during protests, acting like they are the villains. 

I have to believe somebody is planning something somewhere - why should the Republicans be the only ones with plans? 



   
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Posted by: @sistermoon

...I apologize for bringing up those dark memories for you.  

Thank you for saying so, @sistermoon. It genuinely touches me to know you feel that way. ?

But no need to apologize whatsoever! First, you weren't aware. And second, it doesn't hurt me to confront or address those memories. It's been a long time since those things happened and I've done a LOT of healing since then.

I'm not afraid of looking into the darkness. In fact, I believe this is part of my purpose. I just try to stay aware of when doing so might get me more than I bargain for. ...Like it did on the Kim Jong-Un front (my own fault for jumping in without realizing they're a longstanding shamanic warrior culture!). :)  



   
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@mas1581 Thank you for that article. Very interesting and food for thought as to what it means that they found the virus in Spanish sewers in March 2019.



   
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@laura-f & mas ..

I am all apology if I (again) proposed that Covid-19 is not a 'natural' occurrence, based on my own intuitive opinion, and contrary to (God forbid) 'Science' mag and all the batty brouhaha ...

There have been some interesting articles in other Science mags that I've perused, but can't locate right now, so that's a moot, that describe in detail how a basic Sars-2 virus could have been engineered into the insidious Covid-19 that we are experiencing, through experimentation in that Wuhan lab ok ... and released accidentally. A possibility to consider .....

It's notable that the Drumph regime withdrew funding from the research (per 'Science' mag link in Laura's post) and the Wuhan lab adamantly denies any expermentation with even the Sars-2 virus per same article. Yeah right. ?

Anyways, it's out of Pandora's box now, and we are dealing, albeit on many different levels.

Hopefully one upshot of the 'bat & pangolin' blame-game will be that these barbaric, horrific 'Wet Markets' will be closed and certain peoples will realize that centuries of tradition in butchering wildlife for medicinal + health "benefits" is just BS and should ethically be abolished. The same goes for the disgusting and horrifically cruel DOGMEAT festivals that are still being held in CHINA.



   
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