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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@Cindy, I have so much love and respect for you. You  elevated the discussion here during the time you were posting.  I have learned from you what it means to walk through a fire and still come from your highest self. I don't know if I have bullied you, but I pray not. If so, then I am truly sorry.  I know I have pushed back on people over these years and regret that, truly regret it. I do remember being upset when I read that people were focused on the looters during the BLM protests rather than the cause of the protests because that had been the sole response of the Right.

I wrongly lumped people's responses into political positions rather than taking those responses at face value.  It is a lesson to me in not fueling the divide that has been a hard one to learn.  I also haven't realized until after delivering a blow that my push back on people really hurts them. I know I've hurt people who have come here and I wish I could take it back.  

As for others here, I haven't felt anyone bullying here so I guess you must be referring to me. People have opinions here but if their opinions differ from others, I haven't noticed that they meant to harm others.



   
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(@earthangel)
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@jeanne-mayell I was reacting to Cindy’s response and have not felt that you bullied others. I didn’t feel also that Cindy was being bullied, but reacted to her pain which I felt deeply, here and in the collective. I spent too much time, up until about a year ago, despising and being so angry at 45s supporters. Then I realized I was only falling prey to the insidious nature of 45 and those who want to tear the country apart. It’s hard work but when I crossed the divide, I feel separate from it now... or perhaps floating around it? It’s an unfamiliar feeling bc I def feel the pain now that others are carrying. I also remember to hold healing and protective light around myself... to save myself from myself! We really will not be the same people or country when this admin is removed finally. And while I used to be terrified about what that means, I feel a strong inner sense of peace and calm now which I cannot explain and which feels weird, but I am rolling w it. Ok, on to peeling apples for applesauce and stewed apples and apple pie. I drove 78 solo miles to Dartmouth and bought close to 30 lbs of apples yesterday Lolol. Saw New Bedford for the first time and it took my breath away for some reason. So many houses/people clustered close together. It felt ancient and sacred. I want to visit, esp the whaling museum, when it’s safe to do so. 



   
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(@ana)
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@cindy  Thank you. 



   
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(@yogagirl)
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@Cindy I know what you mean. I have stepped away from posting for a while too.  Didn't feel bullied just not welcome.

To add to the growing list, I just read on twitter (so not verified) that CHris Christy has also tested positive.  His contribution to the debate prep was to suggest to the clown that since Biden had a history of stuttering he should interupt him which would frustrate him and make him lose his train of thought.  

As I watch this list of  circus performers testing positive grow, I'm not happy, sad or sympathatic  all I can think is:

KARMA IS A BITCH!



   
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(@moonbeam)
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@cindy, so sorry what you've been through. I am a newbee myself and did not know what horror you have experienced. I hope you can find a warm, spiritual place here again. I think a lot of people get heated out of emotion, but making people feel uncomfortable is never ok. Good vibrations to you and yours. ❤️ 



   
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(@journeywithme2)
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Yes....stuff.. is.. about to get real.   It is good to know that no matter how anyone on this forum feels we all recognize that we can each say our piece, speak up and be heard, can tell our sides, our views and know that no one here means harm to anyone. That we can apologize when we are misconstrued, misinterpreted, misunderstood or if we offend. That we all are capable of learning and growing.  I pray and ask for ever increasing light, love, healing and the highest good for all concerned here in this forum, here in the US, here in the world.   I truly believe by sharing our thoughts, our stories, and listening to others do the same.. increases our Healing a thousand fold and we in turn , as who we are, make a difference in our daily lives, in our Collective Conscious. We are in this together. We agreed to come here to this life at this most difficult time, we have work we doing and have more coming.  Let us reach out to one another, hold on to one another and support and lift one another up every chance we get. We are needing it now more than ever.  Much love to all.



   
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(@deetoo)
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@cindy, I agree with so much of what you've expressed.  I do recall the new person's post about the looting, and I was upset by the intensity of some of the responses.  Although I'm generally quite careful with what I write, it still caused me to think twice about posting.  At the end of the exchange, I believe this person said that she probably wouldn't be posting for a while.  I don't think she's been back.

Regarding T's illness, I understand the intense anger and desire to witness karmic justice, or even revenge.  I often feel ambivalent about calling myself a lightworker because sometimes it feels like a trap.  In my case, there are times I don't give myself permission to fully acknowledge those basic, human emotions, so I delude myself into thinking that I'm better than other people -- i.e., more "enlightened."  I lock my shadow self into a closet and become self-righteous.  The truth is, I've  become mired in self-judgment, which leads to judgment of other people.  

One of the biggest challenges during this time is to love those who we deem unlovable -- specifically those who have inflicted so much pain on others.  We are spiritual beings who are having a human experience, and that's not usually sweetness and light -- it's messy.  I surprise and disappoint myself constantly.   I understand how damn hard this is, especially now.  I have to often tell myself that I'm not here to browbeat people into enlightenment (as if I really know what enlightenment is, LOL!) 

Last night I watched Brian Williams and one of his guests was Michael Moore.  Moore looked exhausted and forlorn.  Moore asked, "Brian, you're not much into social media, are you?"   "No, not really," Williams replied.   Moore sadly shook his head and replied, "Good!"  Michael went on to speak about the vitriolic hatred that is being spewed on social media by people who hate T.   He understands people's anger, but was sad about how they were choosing to express it.  Moore said that he gets no enjoyment watching anyone suffer.   Moore said, "I don't want to see this virus beat T.  I want to see us beat him at the ballot box."  

Again, I have mixed feelings about calling myself a lightworker.  I still don't have a clear idea of why I'm here, or what I have to offer humanity during this pivotal point in time.  But I do know this: I don't want to become the very thing that we are fighting against.  And believe that we're all here to set an example for others.   

 

 



   
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 lynn
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I wish them justice -- legal, poetic, karmic and every other kind. The suffering 45 and his ilk have caused over the past 4+ years is crimes against humanity stuff. I think I've mentioned in this site that I'm an immigration attorney. In this area alone he's cause terror, separated families, deported moms and dads and created an apparatus that is both savage and extremely racist. It's been a strain on my mental health to watch it and feel so helpless to stop it. I have colleagues and coworkers who can barely function. And we're the lucky ones, we're not the ones who are the victims of the brutality.

It will take years to dismantle the structures he's created and get this country to a place where we don't hate each other. He's brought out the worst in people. He's debased our country. I could go on and on but you all get it.  

I don't wish any of these people well, and I don't feel bad our guilty about it. Thoughts and feelings aren't actions. If my bad thoughts lower me spiritually then I can accept that, but I actually don't think they do. These past few years have taught me not to wish the best for everyone because not everyone deserves it. 

These comments aren't meant as a response/praise/criticims to anyone else's comments, it's just what came up and I wanted to share with the community. Peace and love to all. I hope our national nightmare ends soon.



   
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(@polarberry)
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To everyone,

I honestly feel like you all are family. Yogagirl, I had noticed you hadn't been around as much and was thinking of you. I love your posts.

I read stuff here I don't agree with sometimes but everyone feels differently about things and that's ok. If families got along all the time, Thanksgiving would be very boring lol.

I've said before I don't actively wish this virus on anyone, but in Donnie and Melania's case, I've got to go with It is what it is and I don't really care, do u? There has not been one word of empathy from either of them to the families who have lost a loved one due to their lies.

He covered up a deadly pandemic to save his own ass.



   
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@journeywithme2 I agree with you.  To all here I hope we can all be open, accepting and loving to each other.  It’s ok to have a difference of opinion.  Times are hard and trying for everyone.   The upcoming election is stressful, add covid on top of that and it’s almost unbearable for many reasons.  We are all vulnerable and tender.   Let’s share our friendship, care and understanding.   To anyone who feels left out, unwelcome, uncared for, misunderstood or bullied I’m sending you love and healing.  If I contributed to any hurt feelings please accept my sincere apology.     We are stronger together and we all need each other.  Peace friends. ❤️☮️   



   
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@polarberry amen



   
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@deetoo  Thank you so much for saying that, I so resonate with it. Hi everyone, I'm new here, this is my first post. I experienced Jeanne's work about 3 years ago and have enjoyed visiting the site and the forum from time to time. I'm feeling compelled to share because I feel I can without being judged or looked at like I'm from another planet (which I probably am anyway). 

Around 2017, as a Massage Therapist working in the Virginia/DC area, I experienced a lot of distress through my clients, 90% of them democrats working in the government. They were stressed, angry, fearful, sad and feeling powerless. I myself was dealing with my own feelings of sadness regarding T being elected and all the xxxx that happened afterwards without any consequences for T. He could just get away  with anything. I could hardly believe it, being an immigrant that fell in love with America's concern for fairness and respect of all people in 1984 when I then immigrated here. 

I decided to meditate on it, find the peace within so I could move on and not let take over my life. While on meditation something happened. I was able to tune in to something bigger than anything that was happening. I seemed to have connected with his Higher self or a part of his soul. And I could see a bigger picture. It was as if the soul made an agreement (to me it seemed like a sacrifice and act of courage) to come forth and play the villain for an evolution to take place. As I understood it, someone have to play the part. He chose it. Out of love for humanity. Part of me still think I made the whole thing up. But I don't care, it brought me peace. I could then feel his loneliness and his own pain and how it felt to be hated by millions of people. In that moment, he became my brother. Tears kept falling as I for the first time, could feel compassion for this man. Yes, he brings out the worst in people. But it was already there and needs to be healed. To me, the darkness shed a light on everything that needs to be changed. He accelerated it. He played his part brilliantly. 

I don't share this lightly. In fact, I only did with people that could understand it, not necessarily agreeing with me, but being open to a bigger picture. 

Thank you for creating a safe space for sharing. Much love to you all.

 



   
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(@lowtide)
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@deetoo

The same thing happened with djhanhi (sp). Someone made fun of her postings and she left.

I think she/he needed a safe place.



   
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@deetoo  I hear you.  Even Jesus got angry. I know I am nowhere near the great teacher and prophet he was. I must admit.. he was more constructive with it than I have been in my lifetime. My suppressed emotions became a rage that ate me alive for quite some time. I actually forgave and let go for my own mental health. Doesn't mean I forgot and allowed boundaries to be run over time and time again as I did. I forgave... for my own sake...and when those who could not honor boundaries came around I learned to either send them on their way or I took my leave. Our actions have consequences... in Trump's case... his.. had a much wider spread.. that being said? He is not escaping them and he will be a broken man when this is over. Doesn't stop the pain and terror he has already caused... or the suffering yet to come. It is good to know... that ..we will rise...we will make a better world...we are all marked by what we have lived here. I confess a small part of me laughed when I heard he tested positive and said just desserts... I forgave myself that...because of my grief the loss of a dear friend to death by covid-19, to my son's long illness with Covid-19..to the other friends I have that have had it.. to the people everywhere in the US... dealing with and fighting with and for us all with out adequate treatment... to the loss of our jobs, and unemployment and the forced early retirement I had to take from a career I dearly loved. I remember my oath and reinforce that I am here for service to others and healing and to alleviate suffering. I don't think we are expected to never get angry, to never judge, to never feel hurt or any of the so called "negative emotions... for.. how do you know light if you have never experienced dark?



   
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(@mas1581)
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Doctor just came out and said its been 72 hrs since Trumps diagnosis. That puts it sometime on Wednesday. He held 2 events since and knowingly exposed people to covid, while still refusing to wear a mask. When people with HIV knowingly infected others who died from it, they were charged with murder. I think the same should apply here.



   
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WOW!  Can you imagine what all those rich donors who came to his fundraiser at the golf club on Wednesday must be feeling?  They came to air kiss and hug and hand over their money, they get exposed to the virus as a return!  



   
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(@polarberry)
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Journey, I think you touched on an important point. Thinking bad thoughts, feeling like we want evil people to get their comeuppance doesn't make a person bad; it just makes us human. If we didn't react the way we do, we would be Jesus! In the end, every one of us will have to own our words and actions. Most people are always striving to be their best selves. I have to believe that.

deetoo really struck me with her comment about calling herself a lightworker. I wonder that about myself all the time. How can I possibly be a lightworker when I have the feelings I do about T. and his minions and supporters? I've never been one to fight evil with a plate of cookies and a feather duster.

Barr has been exposed and is refusing to quarantine.



   
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(@earthangel)
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@polarberry Yes, human nature balances g&e daily. When I say lightworker, I think of it as we all have the ability to send out love and light to ourselves and others. I don’t think that makes us infallible or above others, but a practice in self love especially. 



   
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(@jovesta)
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The "Physician to the President" seemed to deliver more a press conference than a doctor's update.  He couldn't respond to the question as to whether or not he has received oxygen at all.  

Has anyone thrown cards on this yet?  I should learn how to do that.  I would love to know what this guys intent is.  If he was instructed to cover in the interests of national security, then is it a fair thing to do?  

I don't know what to believe.



   
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(@deetoo)
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@yogagirl, I'm glad to see you back posting.  I've really missed you.  I always love your wisdom and humor.

I'm smiling right now as I've been shown a vision of our community -- a growing family of beautiful, imperfect, sensitive, funny,* gifted, struggling, infinitely wise group of earthly souls who want to make this world a better place.   We are truly blessed to be here, and to have each other. 

*To prove my point about funny,

Posted by @polarberry:

I've never been one to fight evil with a plate of cookies and a feather duster. 



   
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