I forgot to post here that I woke up the other morning dreaming of that song "Bark at the Moon" and it was in the atmosphere of the Republicans taking over that secret conference room (SCIF?) and the multiple angry, threatening, insulting tweets that our President(!) posted.
Heh heh Bark at the Moon.
(although the song is actually about a werewolf who comes back from the dead to seek vengeance... not actually the meaning of the phrase but Ozzy is no Rhodes scholar and thus meant it literally-- the message to me is that all the bluster is in vain-- my guides are eleventy hundred % smarter than Ozzy).
You are completely correct on the demographics of the World Series crowd. Because of insane ticket prices, most locals cannot afford them and the season ticket holders that get the playoff tickets cheaper are well off suburbanites. Many of them sell the tickets too. Id say 50% at most is a local crowd and the other half is a nationwide crowd that flew in for the game. The Nationals also do not have a long standing fanbase since they are relatively new to DC.
That was the most telling part of it for me. This wasnt 40,000 random people from a Dem voting city. This was 40,000 far upper middle class and higher people from across the nation-the people who benefit most from his tax cuts and GOP economic policies. These are the voters that Trump got to win in 2016 and is desperately needing to keep in 2020.
mas 1581 posted:
Im not chastising anyone, and I fully understand the want for payback, but its beneath us and we are letting them win when we do it. He is trying to drag everyone down with him, and we cant let that happen. Let whatever happens to him happen. Im sure it wont be fun for him or his cohorts. Focus your energy on the recovery. Thats much more important than the punishment anyway.
@mas1581 @saibh and others who understand anger and hatred but are still reaching into their empathic gifts at any number, any level to still find our commonalities as broken and imperfect human beings, and focus on good and recovery, I so agree.
I have hated T. Deeply and completely before the elections knowing he would be elected, filled with major temper tantrum outbursts of ugly anger at everything he said and did, knowing he would all but destroy us.
I finally, finally found my heart connection in full again and strengthened its connection once and continually again, then found this site, then connected to my highest self to undo the damage I, not Trump, had done to my heart, my spirit and most of all my soul's journey in this lifetime.
I still struggle. When a loved one is suffering great pain or challenges, when my empathic heart feels the hideous depression of so many here in this site, or in the world I go out into, I too have thoughts of leaving. Leaving earth, this site with so much negativity and so much focus on politics instead of what I see as the far bigger picture, when people spent more time degrading T. with name calling and anger (justifued by all that most understand or know, myself often included) by things people in life said to me or wanted me gone from their lives or the groups I belonged to because of my own views, It's very, very easy to be filled with all of the collectives negativity.
I have to do and be my highest self during the hardest most painful most gosh awful in my earthly selfs this life and still speak from my heart.
I have to be the person who holds space with love for those attacking me or my beliefs or my highest self's deepest understandings when all my 20 out of 20 empathic self hearscor sees or attacked by and wants to give up feels is that rage of this world.
Even if you do not see yourself as having any "spiritual" beliefs (much less traditionally "religious" ones) then most of the time I can still forgive those who have hurt, or still want to hurt me.
If i cannot, them i am fulfilling Trump's soul journey. I am becoming exactly what he wants me to be. I am less than, not greater than.
Could I still kill someone who was killing soneone I loved? Yes. Would I still hate someone or something that was hurting someone who was hurting someone I loved. Yes.
But I would try with all my might to end those destructive, negative, angry hateful to me and to the higher collective and better world that I want my spirit if not my flesh to be part of the healing of?
In a heartbeat. I have to or my life on earth meant nothing, means nothing or has no greater meaning whatsoever.
We are all speaking our pain, we are all speaking our truth. But as some point we have to see more, be more, do more at a higher level or hate and power and our shadow selves win over love and compassion and knowing all our atoms are mingled in all ways.
We are part of the collective even when it expresses by evil over good.
Interesting article on T's usage of drugs and alcohol.
Epstein family pathologist says financier's body shows signs of homicide
A forensic pathologist hired by Jeffrey Epstein's brother to look into his suicide said on Wednesday that the convicted sex offender's body showed a number of signs of homicide, contradicting a medical examiner ruling that Epstein's death was a suicide.
Michael Baden, a former New York City medical examiner who has been hired Epstein's brother to look into the matter, offered the remarks on "Fox & Friends."
Interesting
Thanks for this news. To keep the forum thread on track, please continue any discussion of Jeffrey Epstein and this new development about his death in this thread on that subject which has been bumped up because of Jessi's news. If the news begins to directly affect the Unraveling of Donald Trump, then by all means post here. :-)
@michele-b-here-in-the-forum
Thank you both for posting, you have shared thoughtful words of wisdom. I am going to try and direct my energy to the ones who govern our nation, states, and cities. May they make choices that are wise, and that will be for the good and the betterment of all. May we speak our truths and keep wisdom, grace and kindness present while speaking it.
The healing of this nation will be difficult. Some major bridges will need to be built. We will all need to figure out the best way we can be on the helpful and not hindering side as Trump unravels more and more lest we find ourselves unraveled as well.
Whomever is going to govern after Trump leaves office, whether it is for a few months or whether 4 years, they will need a great deal of help. May the next president be a Healer-in Chief.
I guess T and Company are going to get just what they wanted transparency...they are screwed.
Per NBC News:
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I am happy to hear that this was not a partisan crowd. My husband, a baseball fan, kept telling me the same thing. I replayed it many times, watching the screen and listening to the crowd react when the announcer said the president's name, then react again as they showed him. It is our America speaking out. I felt this way at the 2014 Climate March when suddenly after feeling frustrated and even alone on climate issues for so many years, I was physically surrounded by half a million people who felt the same way. It's a wonderful feeling.
I think when people behave really badly, it's ultimately in the best interest of their spiritual development to feel the hate they spew blown back at them. I never used to believe this, but I think I've become a bit of a convert. Sometimes people who are very un-evolved see tolerance as weakness, and thus miss lessons that are important to their much-needed soul development. Maybe being at the receiving end of harsh feelings could result in a soul's wake up call. That said, I agree we also can't let T change who we are.
I work with immigrants, so every day is a punch in the gut, to me but more importantly to the people whose lives he is making utterly miserable, by closing off hope and instilling terror. Hard not to hate someone like him, but agreed that if he changes us on a fundamental level he wins.
Ultimately, I think the ill will of the good people in this country (and maybe a few more baseball games) will be trump's downfall.
@lynnventura
I so appreciate what you wrote. It makes me think that people are in different places about hating and everyone needs to accept how he or she is feeling. It's okay if any of you feel hatred. I don't hate the man 24/7 but there is so much that he does gets me mad. Like yesterday when I listened to a young Kurdish woman on NPR tell of her family's suffering because of T's decision to cater to their perpetrators so he could please his mentor Putin. The Kurds are a beautiful egalitarian people who have been our friends for decades. They have suffered mistreatment wherever they live, because they don't have their own country. Now because of Donald Trump, they are running for their lives once again, millions of families
We feel hatred when we need to defend or push something away. It's natural and serves a purpose. Then when I regain my strength, my power, and my hope, my anger subsides.
I'm not going to feel guilty or ashamed about it. It is how I feel. And as Lynn wrote, those feelings are natural.
But I don't want to stew in those feelings. Hatred comes from feeling impotent. So when we take care of ourselves and feel strong, hatred has a way of melting away. When people hurt people we love, if we can find a silver lining in the suffering or if we can find hope in it, then again, the hatred for the perpetrator lessens. The stronger and more empowered we feel about life, the less hate we feel.
Today I was thinking about hatred when I looked at the trees outside my window. I look to trees to guide me. I know that climate change and pollution hurts them. I know they feel it and they suffer.
You'll think me crazy, but I wondered how they deal with these threats and feel about us. I immediately noticed in my wonder that they just stretch themselves to the light!
They also concern themselves, we now know, with helping other trees. Once I read about a tree that fell over on a man who was clear cutting a forest. He survived but was horribly wounded. I felt really bad for him. But I also wondered if that tree had had enough. I'm sure I sound a little crazy.
Hatred is a pushing away of something that threatens you. Buddha called it "aversion." He also named it as one of the three poisons that causes human suffering. So ultimately it is for our own happiness that we work towards equanimity, empowerment, and let go of hate.
But it is worse to feel shame when you hate just because someone taught you not to hate. That's just jamming your painful feelings deeper down inside you where they will eat you alive. You are entitled to those feelings! Instead of shame, think of the good reason you needed to have those feelings. Get to the bottom of it. By embracing your feelings, you are liberating yourself with greater self love and approval.
Then later if you notice that your hatred continues, you may see that it is reinforcing feelings of impotence and victimhood. And you don't need to feel impotent and a victim.
So you might try shifting to positive thoughts about that threat -- like The GOP is aging out and DT is definitely going down. Or better still, DT's destructiveness has helped us love and care for each other more. Dt's betrayal has helped us see what true public servants are out there, and it's helped us to appreciate the heroes who have stood up to him. Climate deniers have helped us love our world more. The light is coming up, up, up. Stretching like a tree to the light!
My husband had the following dream the night of 10/29-30. This is what he wrote:
I had a dream last night. It was like a wave of "streaming" images, and went by rapidly in my mind. The House of Reps had voted to impeach T. The Senate was having the trial. The Repub. senators were trying to vote "guilty" but not to remove him from office (I'm pretty sure this isn't Constitutionally possible). The issue went to the Supreme Court. They ruled that the guilty votes counted as guilty. I'm not sure if there were enough Repub. votes to remove T. from office. And the date was around Valentine's Day, 2020.
This is powerful. It is interesting about the Supreme Court because the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is the person who presides over the Senate trial.
Today I closed my eyes and asked to be shown how Trump will ultimately leave office. Immediately what popped into my head was an image of Trump riding alone on top of a Donkey.
That was unexpected! I believe it means the democrats will be the the reason he leaves. They are basically escorting him out.
"It's a sad day because nobody comes to Congress to impeach a president of the United States. No one," [Nancy Pelosi] told reporters. "We come here to do the work, make the future better for our children, for America's future. We take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, and that's what we cannot ignore and will not ignore when the president's behavior indicates that that investigation, that inquiry, is necessary."
Reps. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey and Collin Peterson of Minnesota were the two Democratic no votes. They are in districts where T. won (although those aren't the only districts with a strong T. win). It looks like no Repubs voted for it. Am I right about that? If so, I was hoping that 1 or 2 would surprise me. That's really sad, isn't it? It's just an inquiry.
Jeanne,
Thank you for writing this. It deeply touched my heart. I have similar feelings. I walk in the forest each day among the trees. Sometimes they make creeking noises which causes me to say hello and at times give them a hug. Imagine walking through the forest as the sunlight is filtering through the tall pines walking through a thin veil of glittering snow. Ahhh..I find myself putting the palm of my hand out giving a slight push since it seems as if the new creation is so close, just on the other side of the veil. Right now the world seems so dense, I rely on this time walking among my tree friends to remember, to have hope.
Thanks for talking about hatred. I feel so much hatred at times that I weep. It is closely linked to the suffering others are experiencing here and throughout the world. It seems as if those who support this administration are moving toward wanting a Theocracy. It appears to me that our Democracy is hanging by a thread. I experience so much anger and bitterness, yet beneath it all is grief..incredible sorrow and grief. So, I go to the forest, I walk and talk with the trees.
I am not surprised but very very saddened that not even ONE republican voted for the impeachment. They truly have put party before decency and honesty. I hope that they feel the BLUE wave in 2020 hit so hard that they all lose their jobs. BLUE TSUNAMI!!
Sorry but I'm pretty sad and angry about it. John McCain truly was the last of his kind.